iPhone 3.0... Whatcha think? - Page 3

hiero4life · #1 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 05:05 PM

I'm a mac user and my wife loves the iPhone, I think the update is needed and will make the fanboys happy. I don't understand how they(iPhone fanboys) are so excited about things that should have been done 2 years ago. No Flash support, No tethering, No multitask... NO WAY IN HELL would I think of getting an iPhone.

**x10guy** · #2 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hiero4life

I'm a mac user and my wife loves the iPhone... NO WAY IN HELL would I think of getting an iPhone.

Sort of sums it up. There are people who absolutely love it and some that absolutely hate it. Not too many people in the middle. It's definitely one of those polarizing devices out there.

But I agree it will generally make the iphone user happy. Hard to complain if it is free (not for itouch though).

vboyz103 · #3 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 05:17 PM

I just don't get it...why do people make such a big deal out of iphone? I mean PPC dominated in every single feature that iphone has for a longest time. I mean exchange sync, cut&paste, GPS, bluetooth, etc.

Only thing that PPC doesn't have yet is the multi-touch and that's about it. To me PPC is much more robust in terms of productivity and functionality.

k_semler · #4 (**permalink**) 03-18-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by vboyz103

I just don't get it...why do people make such a big deal out of iphone? I mean PPC dominated in every single feature that iphone has for a longest time. I mean exchange sync, cut&paste, GPS, bluetooth, etc.

Only thing that PPC doesn't have yet is the multi-touch and that's about it. To me PPC is much more robust in terms of productivity and functionality.

Two words: Apple Marketing.

**Noir** · #5 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 05:18 PM

I think this sums it up
2 years too late and a dollar short...I'm not impressed at all...

**x10guy** · #6 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir

I think this sums it up
2 years too late and a dollar short...I'm not impressed at all...

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Originally Posted by vboyz103

I just don't get it...why do people make such a big deal out of iphone? I mean PPC dominated in every single feature that iphone has for a longest time. I mean exchange sync, cut&paste, GPS, bluetooth, etc.

Only thing that PPC doesn't have yet is the multi-touch and that's about it. To me PPC is much more robust in terms of productivity and functionality.

Like I said, the iphone is perhaps the most polarizing device today.
Almost EVERY iphone thread on this board brings up the same stuff... (stinks, inferior, old technology, etc). I guess Apple really blew it when it came out with the device. I wonder how much money they are losing keeping this inferior product on the market. LOL

But getting back to the thread title. I think iphone users will be happy for the update but it really doesn't have any affect on us WMO users since it doesn't offer any new ground breaking functionality.

**Noir** · #7 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by x10guy

Like I said, the iphone is perhaps the most polarizing device today.
Almost EVERY iphone thread on this board brings up the same stuff... (stinks, inferior, old technology, etc). I guess Apple really blew it when it came out with the device. I wonder how much money they are losing keeping this inferior product on the market. LOL

But getting back to the thread title. I think iphone users will be happy for the update but it really doesn't have any affect on us WMO users since it doesn't offer any new ground breaking functionality.

its not the device
its the marketing. And IMHO the ATT Fuze campaign is a bit more...what's the word oh yes REALISTIC

there's a lot of apple wow factor don't get me wrong, but its dated. Its been 2 years 3rd party developers and hackers are actually being stopped more than the people that say microsoft stops development

Its all advertising. Even advertising can call crap sunshine

**x10guy** · #8 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir

its not the device
its the marketing. And IMHO the ATT Fuze campaign is a bit more...what's the word oh yes REALISTIC

there's a lot of apple wow factor don't get me wrong, but its dated. Its been 2 years 3rd party developers and hackers are actually being stopped more than the people that say microsoft stops development

Its all advertising. Even advertising can call crap sunshine

I'm assuming you are being serious. So the iphone is all old technology and is all about advertising....

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Even though I don't think the latest update is anything special... we have much to thank the iphone for.

How long did we suffer with PIE until safari for the iphone came out? (then suddenly there was a flood of viable browsers)
How long did we suffer the same archaic "Today Screen"...
How about gestures? Of course the iphone didn't invent these things... but boy did they make it popular.
I've owned a Windows mobile device when it the operating system was still called Windows CE. It was the only game in town and sometimes if was very painful to use.
I have to say that most of the dramatic WMO development came out when the iphone hit the scene.

Why why Why do these threads ALWAYS degenerate into somehow making the iphone into some crap inferior device?

**Noir** · #9 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by x10guy

I'm assuming you are being serious. So the iphone is all old technology and is all about advertising....

I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Even though I don't think the latest update is anything but earthshattering... we have much to thank the iphone for.

How long did we suffer with PIE until safari for the iphone came out? (then suddenly there was a flood of viable browsers)
How long did we suffer the same archaic "Today Screen"...
How about gestures? Of course the iphone didn't invent these things... but boy did they make it popular.
I've owned a Windows mobile device when it the operating system was still called Windows CE. It was the only game in town and sometimes if was very painful to use.
I have to say that most of the dramatic WMO development came out when the iphone hit the scene.

Why why Why do these threads ALWAYS degenerate into somehow making the iphone into some crap inferior device?

I've had a pocket pc since about mid 2006 being samsung i730. Truthfuly it was rare I used PIE. I used netfront, pixel, opera were all viable options prior to the iphone even being implemented

Second as far as the today screen goes, its mediocre but as a student I was more interested in what it did for me. It notified me of texts, email, and any tasks I had to do. It did it actuay pretty.

Gesture control is probably one of the few things I will credit the iphone for, but if there is a choice between gesture and hardware pad that does the same, I'm more game for it because it can double as a good controller. Heck in my days of complaing in comparative physiology all I did was pop up my ps1 emulator and played some games.

That being said

My natural itch to control my phone was always in me - even in my samsung i730 days. What WM development and years of interaction does is it makes it relatively easy for me to change my system on the fly. If I want a game rom, bam its on my sd card. Do I want a more business rom? bam! Its done. I can change it on the fly and pretty effortlessly and that is the strongest point on WM and it is something that no other device has done. Will I be impressed when another device does that? Better believe it! But till then I will always have preference for windows mobile device because the limits can be pushed.

Just for your information I used an iphone for a week, I just sold an ipod touch. For the 5 days I didn't have my phone and I had to use the ipod touch, I grimaced. Why did I grimace? Push email wasnt as polished as seven, no hardware keyboard, not many apps that suit me as a user. Now different strokes for differernt folks of course, but truly all I see iphone/apple as is brand loyal niche individuals that get taken by advertising. It strangely leads to why I bought an ipod touch/iphone. Simple - to test and sell.

I will admit I loved the iphone theme on my device to be frank - not because of its innovation, but because anything the iphone can TRY to do, WM has done. Like it or not, a lot of the stuff from apple isn't new at all. In fact its dated. Right now I am more interested in pushing the limits to my device and develop. That's the fun of a device IMHO. Apple doesn't have that. Palm doesn't have it either

violent31601 · #10 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 05:36 PM

I just think its BS that they keep charging Ipod touch users for new updates.

isn't it bad enough the unit is more expensive then the Iphone yet more stripped down?