Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 announced by HTC

[biggaboo]

Originally Posted by jbarns

new tf3d and wimo means good stuff for us in the future... i hope

will we beable to make wm 6.5 roms w/o microsoft killing them?

[racemepls]

no video out? thats bs

[GREY.FOXX]

Ok for me TP2 > TP

Larger Screen > Small Screen

I don't care about Flashlight because I forgot I even had one and it is pointless for me.....Mute Button > Flash

Custom TF3D > Normal TF3D (yes there may be a hack to come but I rather have it ready)

Possible Upgrade to WM 6.5 > Just 6.1

TP2 Keyboard > TP Crammy Keyboard

Tilt Screen > Basic (sure why not have the tilt)

Issues others pointed out and my take on it

Weak Camera - for me I can care less, I never even took a pic with my camera, cell cameras always suck to me, and I find it easier just to have a handy digital cam with me

Battery Life - Sucks, but I have accepted that HTC will always suck when it comes to Battery....so I always buy a extra one.


Yes its a small upgrade (like every other company), but I feel like its time for a larger screen and a real full touch screen (DPAD sucks to me). So The larger screen, Better Keyboard,Zoom feature,Custom TF3D,Better Speaker Phone (useful I live in NY, use speaker when driving), and the tilt function is worth it for me.

I have to say the TP2 is the land mark for me, so if the TP3 comes with just minor upgrades I will kindly wait for the TP4 of whatever is next, but I have to get rid of the lame small screens, crammy keyboards, DPAD and feel like I finally have a real touch screen phone.

So After TP2, HTC better come harder.

[wjrandon]

Originally Posted by foxnews

no, you are missing the point. graphic for web browsing, gps, etc on phone are fine as they are today. 3D for web browsing, gps or whatever phones are meant to be are just not cost effective and practical. even most window apps on desktop are 2D. I don't see the need of 3D . it is good to have as a bonus but not as essential.

you can wish to put a jet engine in a car but cars can only do 65mph on highway PRACTICALLY.

got it now?

I have to disagree with you FoxNews, there's no real reason for HTC to be lagging behind in specs, it'll ultimately lead to more innovations being released on the competitors devices. For instance you pointed out GPS navigation is fine as it is, but while our WM devices are stuck using Google Maps and Telenav, did you know the iPhone already has a version of Google Earth available to the general public. Now offer people the option between using the typical 2D display or having a virtual flyover of their current location or their driving route in 3D and you start to see where the possibilities lay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6BPuKaLel4

I'm undecided on what position i'm going to take on the Touch Pro 2. For those of us in the United States, we're better off waiting until we learn what customizations the cellular carriers will make to these devices, because as history has shown us they can add/remove components seemly at will.

[GREY.FOXX]

Originally Posted by wjrandon

I have to disagree with you FoxNews, there's no real reason for HTC to be lagging behind in specs, it'll ultimately lead to more innervations being released on the competitors devices. For instance you pointed out GPS navigation is fine as it is, but while our WM devices are stuck using Google Maps and Telenav, did you know the iPhone already has a version of Google Earth available to the general public. Now offer people the option between using the typical 2D display or having a virtual flyover of their current location or their driving route in 3D and you start to see where the possibilities lay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6BPuKaLel4

I'm undecided on what position i'm going to take on the Touch Pro 2. For those of us in the United States, we're better off waiting until we learn what customizations the cellular carriers will make to these devices, because as history has shown us they can add/remove components seemly at will.

I agree 3D is nice.

[Snoman002]

Whats funny is that you outlined nearly everything I was thinking, just in inverse.

Originally Posted by GREY.FOXX

Ok for me TP2 > TP

Larger Screen > Small Screen
Small Screen >Large Screen
Since the TP hardware can hardly support video whats the point of trying to do it on more pixels. I dont need to see my pictures or contacts that much better. Sure, web use would be a little nicer, but its only less zooming, not getting rid of zooming altogether. Not to mention how much bigger it makes the phone.

I don't care about Flashlight because I forgot I even had one and it is pointless for me.....Mute Button > Flash
Eih, a little backlighting might make a couple more usable pictures, but yeah, minor point. Toss-up IMO.

Custom TF3D > Normal TF3D (yes there may be a hack to come but I rather have it ready)
Custom TF3D = Normal TF3D
The custom mods to TF3D make it look so much better, similar things will be true of the new version as well. And heck, making it your own is half the fun. The landscape TF is SWEET though.

Possible Upgrade to WM 6.5 > Just 6.1
WM6.5 = WM6.1
IMO NBD, WM7 is the one I'm looking for anyways. Plus TF3D makes WM6.1 look pretty anyways, its just he back end that is still fugly. So TF3D or WM6.5, personally I prefer the look of TF over even 6.5, and you still need the stylus for many WM apps so its not like WM6.5 would allow you to ditch that little piece of hardware.

TP2 Keyboard > TP Crammy Keyboard
Well, I dont think I could disagree with you on this one

Tilt Screen > Basic (sure why not have the tilt)
It might be a nice feature, I couldnt tell you.

Issues others pointed out and my take on it

Weak Camera - for me I can care less, I never even took a pic with my camera, cell cameras always suck to me, and I find it easier just to have a handy digital cam with me
For me, I never have a camera when I want one. Granted, I could carry a cam with me everywhere I went, but thats just one more expensive thing to loose.

Battery Life - Sucks, but I have accepted that HTC will always suck when it comes to Battery....so I always buy a extra one.
From what I hear thats too true. Then again, with some of the battery tweaks that are out, it would suck to not make it that last hour of the day because of that .8 more screen.


Yes its a small upgrade (like every other company), but I feel like its time for a larger screen and a real full touch screen (DPAD sucks to me). So The larger screen, Better Keyboard,Zoom feature,Custom TF3D,Better Speaker Phone (useful I live in NY, use speaker when driving), and the tilt function is worth it for me.

I have to say the TP2 is the land mark for me, so if the TP3 comes with just minor upgrades I will kindly wait for the TP4 of whatever is next, but I have to get rid of the lame small screens, crammy keyboards, DPAD and feel like I finally have a real touch screen phone.

So After TP2, HTC better come harder.

Not being argumentative, just using your views as a counterpoint to mine since they were very similar, just opposite.

For me I can only justify the cost if it fills some blanks, or makes my travels lighter. The TP might do that for me, a quick anytime camera (you need a camera less when you decied to bring one then when you forget it at home), a video playback machine (airports, hotel rooms), and a web browser (bringing a laptop into the head is a PITA). I understand it wont do all of these things well, but why go for just a bigger screen if it means sacrifices on many of the other things, video playback is bad already and it will only get worse, battery life will only be worse, web browsing will be marginally better (only marginally), and, well, a toss up on the camera.

IMO, a bigger screen is a minor upgrade, kinda like a new grill on a pickup truck. Heck, that might be why its called the Pro2 as opposed to something completely different. Think of this as not a new phone (6mo after the last one was released!?) but as a face lift to a current phone while they ready new ones. Hopefully the face lift included some software as well.

I do hope the TP2 comes to sprint though. Because that means the TP might go down in price due to demand dropping as everybody waits on the TP2.

BTW, spelling errors are actually copywrite protection .

[boomhower]

Its a pass for me. I am waiting for some more oomph in the CPU department. Even with all the custom ROMS and other mods my Diamond still feels sluggish. Add a higher res display and the problem is just compounded. I do really like the look of both of them though. Hopefully they have something better planned for the fall. (in the rumored snapgradon variety)

[boomhower]

Originally Posted by seanborn1979

We need more companies making phones as great as HTC so they quit owning the market. I wish high quality gadget companies like Garmin would jump in full force instead of just half ***** trying.

There are quite a few good phones out there. The problem is they are so scattered among the carries the choices are pretty slim on each.

[unclutchable]

I just got this damn Diamond. I need money.

[GREY.FOXX]

As far as the camera goes, I can go without a camera, I hate phone cameras, and if I don't have a digital cam on me to take a pic, I will just not take the pic. When I say I hate them, I really hate them, the quality always sucks so I don't look at the camera much.

Battery life will always suck, and after dealing with the mogul and the TP, im know to be prepared lol. HTC just sucks in that department.

The big screen is needed to me because, to me, we are in the time where finger friendly should be everywhere. Thats why I hope WM 6.5 will be available for this. When you are near a Touch HD and a Touch Pro you will see man the screen is just sexy big. You see things better and more.

Screen is a big issue to me. I hated the DPAD thing I felt last gen, then someone with a IPHONE comes with a big sexy screen making everything look great pissed me off lol.

Also the keyboard is something I look forward to, not to mention that conference call feature, that is sick.

so its what ever works for you, but I don't see why some people in here just automatically diss this phone, also I never heard of flash being such a big deal, but I guess it is.

I want a TP2 or I may wait and look at the Snagdragon or Toshiba TG01.


You are right its more of a face lift, and like I said after this HTC must come harder for me to buy it.