Sprint Denies PPC customers from sending picmail - Page 29

**JDM_SOHC** · #**281** (**permalink**) 03-28-2008, 03:00 AM

Should I be paying the extra $5/mo for picture mail provided we're not able to send picture mail through sprint... Would I be able to still use nueMMS if I didnt have picture mail on my account...?? I just noticed I been gettin charged for it for past 5 months and its kinda bull**** if we're not even supposed to be sending pics...

gnatsstang · #**282** (**permalink**) 03-28-2008, 03:21 AM

Couple of follow-up sites to check to show it had MMS ,BUT NOW IT DOESN'T. HMMMM.. Makes ya wonder huh?
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/...-32471386.html
http://www.1800mobiles.com/sprint-mogul-phone.html
(follow MORE specifications link to left of article) (SMS text and multimedia messaging (pictures and video) )

Hockyz · #**283** (**permalink**) 04-01-2008, 10:00 PM

bump this up... how are they knowing to deny the MMS from these phones? Does anyone know? My assumption would be that they're probing your account information for what kind of phone you're using and denying accordingly. If that is the case, what if we were to activate an old phone (for example, I have a fusic laying around that supports MMS) and then clone its ESN to the smartphone? At that point, the sprint network would think I was using a fusic, but I'd really be using a vogue. Theoretically, that might push those messages through. Seems like a lot of work for mms, though. haha

**SomeGuyMMS** · #**284** (**permalink**) 04-01-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockyz

bump this up... how are they knowing to deny the MMS from these phones? Does anyone know? My assumption would be that they're probing your account information for what kind of phone you're using and denying accordingly. If that is the case, what if we were to activate an old phone (for example, I have a fusic laying around that supports MMS) and then clone its ESN to the smartphone? At that point, the sprint network would think I was using a fusic, but I'd really be using a vogue. Theoretically, that might push those messages through. Seems like a lot of work for mms, though. haha

The Arcsoft Picmail program which PDA users used to send MMS messages used a servlet that was located on Sprints site, Just like they have send SMS from their site. Well, sprint actually removed that servlet from their site, with the intention of blocking PDA users.

Normal phones use a non-disclosed protocol for sending Picture Mail. That is why they continue to have this ability. If I knew this API, I would write an app in a second.

**guitardoc64** · #**285** (**permalink**) 04-01-2008, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeGuyMMS

The Arcsoft Picmail program which PDA users used to send MMS messages used a servlet that was located on Sprints site, Just like they have send SMS from their site. Well, sprint actually removed that servlet from their site, with the intention of blocking PDA users.

Normal phones use a non-disclosed protocol for sending Picture Mail. That is why they continue to have this ability. If I knew this API, I would write an app in a second.

I wonder if it's similar to the coding in the Arcsoft app? I know that a device ID code was part of the login to the servelet, and assumed they had set the servelet to deny any WM ID.

**guitardoc64** · #**286** (**permalink**) 04-01-2008, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeGuyMMS

Normal phones use a non-disclosed protocol for sending Picture Mail. That is why they continue to have this ability. If I knew this API, I would write an app in a second.

I bet you would!

**SomeGuyMMS** · #**287** (**permalink**) 04-01-2008, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitardoc64

I wonder if it's similar to the coding in the Arcsoft app? I know that a device ID code was part of the login to the servelet, and assumed they had set the servelet to deny any WM ID.

You never now. I doubt it most of those services run on some odd port and just checks if the message is delivered from a phone on their network. That is a hole nest of trouble, find out that stuff. Plus most likely very illegal. Anyway the Arcsoft App used not port 80, regular web page port. Which was open to pretty much anyone.

LadySaat · #**288** (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 04:08 AM

I am confused. Let me explain why before I get flamed. I read all over the site about no MMS anymore for Sprint. When I upgraded to the 6800 I asked them about it (people in store) and they had no clue wtf they were talking about because they told me oh sure, no problem blah blah blah. I sent my sister one, looked like it was fine, but she never got it. Never gave it another thought as I can use nueMMS or something else if I want in the meantime. But I never asked on here if Sprint denying us customers meant we couldn't send MMS or that we couldn't send AND recieve MMS. I tried searching in here, but all threads are closed and point to one central thread in which I didn't find the answer.

So can any of you receive MMS? we just can't send it? I recently received a weird email suddenly that I was registered for picturemail from pictures@sprintpcs.com. It was a welcome email, I posted the text below.

"Thank you for registering for Pictures.

Now you can begin shooting and sending digital pictures with your Vision-enabled PCS Phone from Sprint.

Visit http://pictures.sprintpcs.com to view, manage and share pictures you've already stored through your PCS Phone or you can visit the site from your personal computer to further personalize and share your collection.

Your PCS VisionSM Camera, PCS Phone, and the Pictures Web site all contain information and answers to questions you may encounter.

Thank you again for signing up, and enjoy clarity you can see and hear with PCS VisionSM from Sprint!

The Sprint Picture Share Team

Send and Receive Pictures through PCS Vision.
For more information go to www.sprintpcs.com.
"

That afternoon I got a picture message from my sis (my bday) of a cake. I called Sprint and asked about the pic mail... the chick said yeah, you have the full Vision package, you shouldn't have a problem.

So I am totally confused now. Everything here currently reads NO mms. I don't want to put this in a diff thread for fear of pissing someone off. I am thinking that we can receive it we just can't send it?

LadySaat · #**289** (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 04:21 AM

Well I figured I would go to the site and nose around, it asked me to set up my stuff?

Choose a display name. This becomes the "From" name when you send a Picture Mail
*Required fields

*First Name

*Last Name

Now choose an email address for your new account.
Note: this can only be set once.

*New Email Address
@pm.sprint.com
Example: samsmith@pm.sprint.com
Opt in for PictureMail communications from Sprint

Then in the account part of it they say this:

Did You Know...

# NEW! Sprint offers you a new
Picture Mail email address?
Your email is now
xxxxxxxxxxx@pm.sprint.com

# Your Sprint PCS phone number is
always your email address "alias?"
Your friends and family can send
messages quickly to
xxxxxxxxxx@pm.sprint.com

# Messages in your inbox will be
deleted after 60 days?

# You can permanently Save
messages in your inbox by clicking
on the "save" icon ?

__________________________________________________ ____________

So am I being completely retarded here? does none of this have to do with sending pics on my 6800? I don't remember having to set up any of this before on a stock rom and my 6700, but the sprintpcs.com email addy they activated was the one connected to my phone that I sent pics through. I am totally NOT savvy here... so I could be mixing apples and oranges... if so guys, I really really apologize!

Wunder · #**290** (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike9191

The responce you got from sprint does not make sense because it was not from sprint. i have no idea why you would spend so much time bashing sprint. the picmail service simply does not work on every phone they have. If you look close you will notice the Mogul is an HTC device and not a sprint made device. why dont you complain to HTC instead ? and an even bigger question is why did you get a phone that cant do picture mail if that is what you want to do ? NO carrier has every service on every phone. yes a $500 phone should be able to do many things, and it does. Picture mail is not one of them. the music store link was made a feature of this phone for obvious reasons, It makes Sprint money. additional profit, pure and simple. You see, this is what they are in business for. money. nothing wrong with that. next time you want to edit a email responce to make it sound ignorant, find a differant forum.....oh, and yes, I do work for Sprint customer care.

Wow, is this a joke? Mikey must be trying to get a rise, right?? Your whole argument was ripped to shreds on the post right after yours, so I won't repeat it here. This is exactly what I would expect to see from a Sprint customer careless rep, all the infuriating phone calls I've had with them make so much more sense now...