GPS OEM...first attempt

[dew.man]

Originally Posted by mardukeme

My first attempt to flash the titan radio onto the vogue was by changing the device id, which was unsuccessful, but it displayed the radio version, and other info red during boot, but would just hang. After removing the spl from the radio rom, I was able to boot with the new radio successfully, although now it displays no radio, in red or blank info at the bottom of the screen. The option to enable rev-a is also missing, which is being discussed in the titan forum
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20905.

So I began looking into spl.nb file with a hex editor it seems spl.nb, might be the key to getting gps and rev a, on the vogue. If someone is more comfortable with a Hex editor have a look at it.

Very interesting!

So let me understand what you did: You took a stock device and loaded the titan spl and radio on to it causing it to not boot. You then patched just the radio and it booted? How did you get the old spl back as that is the layer responsible for loading the updates and once it becomes corrupt, your device should have been bricked?

There have been several of us that have tried patching just the radio, and except jd and now you, have all had the same results.

[tmz]

I love this... You guys rock....

[dew.man]

INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT:

Found some details that explain the confusion and mixed results.

The original leaked version 3.16 for the Titan (as obtained from the first link at http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=16806) actually contains 2 separate .nbh files: 3.16.651.0.nbh and Special_4350_SPC.nbh).

The 3.16.651.0.nbh archive contains a complete update with radio called 785.nb which when flashed to the Vogue shows up as radio 3.27, but does not boot.

The Special_4350_SPC archive contains Radio.nb which when flashed to the Vogue shows No Radio, but does allow it to boot, and appears to work.

These radio files are different in length and vary substantially in content.

Furthermore, both these archives contain new SPLs, which also vary significantly.

So now that we know why some people can get the radio to work while others can't - we're using different radios, why are there two different versions included and which one does the mogul use?

[mardukeme]

Originally Posted by dew.man

INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT:

Found some details that explain the confusion and mixed results.

The original leaked version 3.16 for the Titan (as obtained from the first link at http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=16806) actually contains 2 separate .nbh files: 3.16.651.0.nbh and Special_4350_SPC.nbh).

The 3.16.651.0.nbh archive contains a complete update with radio called 785.nb which when flashed to the Vogue shows up as radio 3.27, but does not boot.

The Special_4350_SPC archive contains Radio.nb which when flashed to the Vogue shows No Radio, but does allow it to boot, and appears to work.

These radio files are different in length and vary substantially in content.

Furthermore, both these archives contain new SPLs, which also vary significantly.

So now that we know why some people can get the radio to work while others can't - we're using different radios, why are there two different versions included and which one does the mogul use?

dew.man you are correct and after looking at the 785.nb file more in detail I saw it has all the references to enabling gps services on the device.

[dew.man]

Originally Posted by mardukeme

dew.man you are correct and after looking at the 785.nb file more in detail I saw it has all the references to enabling gps services on the device.

Can you elaborate on that?

I have very limited time I can spend on this, but would love to help get this thing off the ground...

[mardukeme]

Sorry about that,

Use a hex editor and scroll down about a 1/3 of the way down through the code you will see references to starting the gps service on the device.

[dew.man]

Originally Posted by mardukeme

Sorry about that,

Use a hex editor and scroll down about a 1/3 of the way down through the code you will see references to starting the gps service on the device.

Both radios reference GPS, and neither works right on the Vogue ;-(

[ImCoKeMaN]

Originally Posted by dew.man

INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT:

Found some details that explain the confusion and mixed results.

The original leaked version 3.16 for the Titan (as obtained from the first link at http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=16806) actually contains 2 separate .nbh files: 3.16.651.0.nbh and Special_4350_SPC.nbh).

The 3.16.651.0.nbh archive contains a complete update with radio called 785.nb which when flashed to the Vogue shows up as radio 3.27, but does not boot.

The Special_4350_SPC archive contains Radio.nb which when flashed to the Vogue shows No Radio, but does allow it to boot, and appears to work.

These radio files are different in length and vary substantially in content.

Furthermore, both these archives contain new SPLs, which also vary significantly.

So now that we know why some people can get the radio to work while others can't - we're using different radios, why are there two different versions included and which one does the mogul use?

Unfortunately the one that doesn't boot is the one that the titan uses. The special_4350 is an nbh that i don't think sprint ever meant to ship, it was also included in the new rom. It contains an MFG bootloader (normal ones say Shipped) and was most likely meant just for testing.

The SPL files are completely different and I have loaded it as a soft bootloader which only created a white screen. Do not flash it to a vogue!!!! Also, patching the SPL files isn't just a hex editor job. There are enough differences in the device that at this low of a level that the titan SPL just won't work (most obvious is the RAM). This isn't to say it's impossible to port, but it would require manually porting any GPS related instructions to free areas in assembly language.

[vboyz103]

Yep, I had also attempted what users here did and similar results by mix matching SPL and radio etc.

So base on what CokeMan said, I think the only thing we can do now is to wait for something either official or leaked to come out.

I so wanted Touch GPS cuz I have my spare mogul from VZW and love the built-in GPS.

[mardukeme]

I was able to play around with a titan today, which was gps enabled. I was curious to see what services were running. Using dotfred task manager, I noticed gps1 was listed under devices, and under services GpsDaemonService was listed also. On the vogue there were no listing in either section, even though i had cooked a rom with the dll's extracted from the titan. An I was unsuccesfull in manually load the dll's either, I kept getting an error. Maybe someone else could get the dll's loaded.

Hopefully someone will leak a rom for the Vogue as well.