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Old 01-24-2009, 04:59 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

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gentleman. read and learn.

"Federal law allows recording of phone calls and other electronic communications with the consent of at least one party to the call. A majority of the states and territories have adopted laws based on the federal standard. But 12 states, including California, require the consent of all parties to the call. These are are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington. For a state-by-state guide to taping laws, including a discussion of federal law and references to caselaw, see the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press guide, www.rcfp.org/taping/ ."

so all you guys that don't seem to give a crap about members like me trying to keep your butts out of jail, should. and as far as i'm concerned, this thread should be closed by a mod.
Why should it be closed there are 38 other states, including the one I live in, that would allow it with only one person being aware of the recording, plus you could always say the call is being recorded, who would believe it anyway.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:45 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

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Umm, no its not. It's inadmissible in court if the other party didn't know they were being recorded.
Just FYI for those don't know. Some state like California is illegal and not just inadmissible in court.

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California prohibits telephone monitoring or recording, including the use of information obtained through interception unless all parties to the conversation consent (California Penal Code Sections 631 & 632). There is no statutory business telephone exception and the relevant case law all but excludes this possibility. California courts have recognized "implied" consent as being sufficient to satisfy the statute where one party has expressly agreed to the taping and the other continues the conversation after having been informed that the call is being recorded. Violation is punishable by a fine of up to $2,500, imprisonment for not more than one year, or both. A civil plaintiff may recover the greater of $3,000 or three times the amount of any actual damages sustained.
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:04 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

Can anyone confirm if this works? It doesn't work on my TP after installing the .cab file and the .mui file onto the /windows directory. I can't seem to find the option for recording calls in my windows phone screen.
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Old 01-15-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

Ok lets forget the legalities for a second...
Does this app work for anyone????
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:30 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

This is borderline turning into the other useless thread... just a debate about what is legal and what isn't.

Do you guys know for a fact it's illegal? Are you guys lawyers? What do you think the people who will be using this app will do with their recordings? Do you think they will blackmail someone? Use it as evidence in court? If it's illegal, are you going to call the FBI on the person recording the call, and tell them they are using legal software to illegally record phone calls? If you call me and I tell you I'm recording the conversation, is it still illegal? If I don't tell you, is it illegal? Are you going to sue me? Are you going to tell me "I told you so" if it is really illegal? Can I tell you "I told you so" if it isn't?

(Hopefully) most everyone here is a grown adult, and can account for their own actions and consequences. But come on, don't blurt out this is illegal when you don't know what you're talking about. If you do, then give reasons why, and back your statements up with facts! Otherwise, DROP THE LEGALITY DISCUSSION!!
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:28 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

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This is borderline turning into the other useless thread... just a debate about what is legal and what isn't.

Do you guys know for a fact it's illegal? Are you guys lawyers? What do you think the people who will be using this app will do with their recordings? Do you think they will blackmail someone? Use it as evidence in court? If it's illegal, are you going to call the FBI on the person recording the call, and tell them they are using legal software to illegally record phone calls? If you call me and I tell you I'm recording the conversation, is it still illegal? If I don't tell you, is it illegal? Are you going to sue me? Are you going to tell me "I told you so" if it is really illegal? Can I tell you "I told you so" if it isn't?

(Hopefully) most everyone here is a grown adult, and can account for their own actions and consequences. But come on, don't blurt out this is illegal when you don't know what you're talking about. If you do, then give reasons why, and back your statements up with facts! Otherwise, DROP THE LEGALITY DISCUSSION!!
Being a lawyer has nothing to do with it.
I am not a lawyer, but I have sued a lawyer and won.
We vividly disagreed on the facts.
We took it to court, and I won.

The moral of the story is for you to do your own due diligence.
You are not supposed to be ignorant of the law.
In fact, you are supposed to educate yourself on the law.

Here is for all to read and learn the facts on this subject: http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/telephone.htm

Now, let's quit it with the speculations.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:12 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

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Being a lawyer has nothing to do with it.
I am not a lawyer, but I have sued a lawyer and won.
We vividly disagreed on the facts.
We took it to court, and I won.

The moral of the story is for you to do your own due diligence.
You are not supposed to be ignorant of the law.
In fact, you are supposed to educate yourself on the law.

Here is for all to read and learn the facts on this subject: http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/telephone.htm

Now, let's quit it with the speculations.

Winning a case against the lawyer doesn't prove he doesn't know the law and you do. Lawyers lose court cases all the time, it doesn't mean they know the law.

My point was simply that people are stating this program and/or use of the program is illegal. It is NOT. I repeat, recording a conversation is not illegal. For those who can't read well, and may have spaced out for a sec, again, IT IS NOT ILLEGALAnd the link you provided proves it (Thank you BTW). Now, of course, you can make it illegal if you don't have proper consent, etc...


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for me, it's not a learning experience to be told that it's legal to do this when it's not in many states, including my own. the idea of this program may be "cool" to some of you guys but i think it's dangerous for this site to even make light of it in any way. it's worse than Warez.
I had to erase my message, as I don't want to start bashing anyone.

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Actually... since Sprint (and most CS numbers) already make that announcement, I'd think you're free to record those calls anyways.... they've already announced to YOU that the call may be recorded, so both parties are already aware.
This should be proof enough that recording a call can be legal.
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

Geeeee enough of that, let s get this isht working, that is all we need HERE......
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:32 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

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Geeeee enough of that, let s get this isht working, that is all we need HERE......
LOL So much for this thread not turning into another legal battle......
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Old 01-15-2009, 11:48 PM
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Re: Record Both Sides of Call Coming Soon!

warez?!? gtfowtbs... this type of app has been available for other mobile o/s for years... if it were illegal I'm sure they would have been forced to stop selling it... maybe we can get these guys http://www.qmobilsoft.net/ to take a crack designing a wm version...

the palm version could be configured to

-start during incoming calls only
-outgoing calls only
-or both incoming & outgoing
-triggered manually with a hard key
-it also automatically tagged the conversation with the callers name if they were in your phonebook, number they call from time of day, & date
- you could also password protect the conversations in case you lost your phone or just didn't want people snooping through your phone...

people are always thinking of the negative, but the app was very useful for just general note taking, a person giving directions, a phone #, those long confirmation numbers you get when talking to CSR's, if you're driving you never had to take your hands off the wheel
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