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Old 12-16-2008, 08:39 PM
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Re: Internet while on a call?

Not sure this if this helps anyone, but I used Sprint Nav with my Mogul and the maps would not load during a call in both 1x and EVDO coverage. But with the TP and the new build of Sprint Nav now is the same coverage but only EVDO when on a vocie call my Sprint Nav still loads the maps while I on the call. Not sure how it works?? Everthing else I do with Data will suspend when a vocie call comes in.

Would be nice if you could do both!!
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Old 12-16-2008, 08:42 PM
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Re: Internet while on a call?

the fact that at&t is able to do video and data has nothing to do with the phones its all about the network. Sprints network isn't even capable of doing this right now. Sprint calls there network 3g but in actuallity its rev a not 3g. They call it a 3g network because the bandwidth that its capable of is better or even at worse. Yes at&t can do voice and data but there 3g network is ridiculously slow compared to sprints evdo rev a. It has nothing to do with anyones area, its just not possible with rev a , hopefully with wimax it will be able to support high speeds and data at the sametime.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:14 PM
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Re: Internet while on a call?

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the fact that at&t is able to do video and data has nothing to do with the phones its all about the network. Sprints network isn't even capable of doing this right now. Sprint calls there network 3g but in actuallity its rev a not 3g. They call it a 3g network because the bandwidth that its capable of is better or even at worse. Yes at&t can do voice and data but there 3g network is ridiculously slow compared to sprints evdo rev a. It has nothing to do with anyones area, its just not possible with rev a , hopefully with wimax it will be able to support high speeds and data at the sametime.
Again, not exactly.

EVDO Rev A IS 3g by loose 3g definitions. ATT's UMTS, when coupled with HSDPA and HSUPA (and faster HSDPA/HSUPA phones), under good coverage conditions, can be faster than EVDO Rev A in general. I won't get into the numbers or technical details, but my ATT HSDPA 7.2 phone runs circles around my Rev A. Sprint phone under similar coverage conditions time and again. If you're talking about EDGE or GPRS--yes they are slow--but they are not "3G".

And no, it's not just the network. The phone has to support the protocol (UMTS/HSDPA) and upload/download speeds (3.6/7.2). A GSM or TDMA phone CANNOT do simultaneous voice/data even though it is on ATT's network. So no, it's not just "all about the network".

Reprising my earlier posts, I believe we have the responsiblity to at least attempt to provide information that is as accurate as possible.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:17 PM
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Again, not exactly.

EVDO Rev A IS 3g by loose 3g definitions. ATT's UMTS, when coupled with HSDPA and HSUPA (and faster HSDPA/HSUPA phones), under good coverage conditions, can be faster than EVDO Rev A in general. I won't get into the numbers or technical details, but my ATT HSDPA 7.2 phone runs circles around my Rev A. Sprint phone under similar coverage conditions time and again. If you're talking about EDGE or GPRS--yes they are slow--but they are not "3G".

And no, it's not just the network. The phone has to support the protocol (UMTS/HSDPA) and upload/download speeds (3.6/7.2). A GSM or TDMA phone CANNOT do simultaneous voice/data even though it is on ATT's network. So no, it's not just "all about the network".

Reprising my earlier posts, I believe we have the responsiblity to at least attempt to provide information that is as accurate as possible.
This is a round about, of course the phone has to be capable of doing it. If the phone isnt a rev a phone just because its on sprints network doesn't mean its running rev a, so that statement the phone has to be capable also is a given. We're in the touch pro room and the gsm model is capable of doing it because their network supports it, why build one for sprint when the network isn't capable of doing it. I do know that the 3g network has way more CAPABILITY to be faster then evdo rev a, which is why we are coming out with wimax, but any phone on at&t's 3g network such as the touch pro, if you compare that phone to one that is on sprints network, the download speeds and browsing won't even compare. Also if you compare any of at&t's mobile broadband cards to any of sprints, at&t will get smoked.

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Old 12-16-2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: Internet while on a call?

In theory if you had VOIP software on the phone you could do it.
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Internet while on a call?

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In theory if you had VOIP software on the phone you could do it.
How do you figure? VOIP would be using your data connection...if an incoming call came in, your VOIP connection would be dropped (or vice versa...you couldn't make a voice call without dropping your VOIP/data connection).

You'd still have the same issues as making a normal cellular call and attempting to use a data connection at the same time.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:52 PM
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Re: Internet while on a call?

so why can you text while on a call
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:57 PM
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Re: Internet while on a call?

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so why can you text while on a call
Texting doesn't use data.
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Re: Internet while on a call?

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Texting doesn't use data.
Thats funny cause when I was with tmobile, i paid $15 - $20 for a data plan, which included text messaging. If text isnt data, why is/was it included in data plans?
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Re: Internet while on a call?

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Thats funny cause when I was with tmobile, i paid $15 - $20 for a data plan, which included text messaging. If text isnt data, why is/was it included in data plans?
There is a difference in IMing and Texting

This is how Sprint looks at IM/Text...dont know about Tmobile

The data plan which included text messaging which you are talking about is really "IMing", since in "Texting" you just need a cell signal and "IMing" you need a internet connection hence "data"

Texting falls under the Messaging Plan
IMing falls under Data Plan

http://www.nextel.com/en/stores/popu...an_popup.shtml <---Services w/Plan or Vice Versa "Sprint"
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