[Answered] [Please Lock] Is there such a thing as a perfect Touch Pro?

[Addicted23]

Originally Posted by b.cabell

It's funny that you mention this subject I was talking to my wife about this yesterday, it seems like the newer the phone and the bigger the price tag the more the problems. My TP when I'm driving and I'm using the GPS and I go and connected it to my car charger it will charge for about 10 to 15 minutes and just stop charging. Now mind you I have to unhook it for about 10 minutes then reconnected it and sometimes it still won't start charging. I brought a new car charger thinking that it's my old one and I still have the same problems but it's only with the car charger. The only time I get a good charge is when I'm at home using my wall charger.

Yeah, it's pretty amusing and contrary to every other part of life!

If you buy a car for $50K, you expect to have less problems and better reliability than a car for $5K.

[rihavens]

Have a 11/18 build date, came out of the box with bad volume. I have doen the FULL audiopara on it and I usually have to turn it down (sound quality usually good unless I have it on full blast on speaker phone.) Still a new phone, but the battery life has not failed me yet (though I have to shut it off at work where I have NO bars, it will drain the battery polling the cell tower.) Overall mine looks great and works great. The keyboard is evenly lit, and the screen is fine. No locking up either. I do power it off almost daily though to make sure I dont run into this problem.

[[sammich]]

rihavens, is your screen really white? Or does it have a yellow tint?

Originally Posted by Addicted23

I think you are wrong.

The super geeks that make up this message board are not representative of the average user. You can't expect an average user to do registry hacks (see, I don't even know what I'm talking about) in order to bring battery life to an acceptable level or to bring the earpiece & speaker volumes to a good level. There's certain quality issues that this phone is lacking out of the box. And hearing other people look past problems and say everything is "just fine" just makes others more paranoid about their phones.

I'm on Week 1 of this phone. I'm trying to be patient but.........

1) Phone froze twice. Once during charging. Once just texting and sliding out the keyboard.
2) Earpiece volume was horrendous out of the box. I literally could not hear the other person and had to use speakerphone all the time.
3) I need more time with this one, but my phone sometimes gets incredibly hot during longer calls. It's fine sometimes and other times it gets warm to hot. Same goes for charging. I often get a warm phone from charging.
4) Battery life is bad. I went from 4 bars to 1 bar warnings to charge my phone after my last call that only went 22 minutes.... 22 MINUTES!!! My phone was incredibly warm as well after that call.

There's just waaaaay too many problems one week into my usage.

I don't use IM. I don't use navigation. I just mainly text and use the phone and browse occasionally.

But I'm being patient. Some people have written that the battery gets better over time. I'll see. I have 3 more weeks. If not, by 30 days, I'll see if I'll be able to get by with the battery deficiency and just "live with it."

It's a very, very cool phone. But I don't trust it one bit to last me through my 2 year contract without problems. Note, I have NEVER returned a phone so it takes a lot to get me to this point. At the very least, I'll probably opt into the insurance program from best buy.

Get Sprint's, not Best Buy's! Best Buy wants a $150 deposit plus time without a phone while they send it back for you... you could very well just send it back yourself, hang on to your $150, and not have a phone for the same amount of time. I ended up choosing Best Buy's and I regret it. My phone's hardware keyboard 100% stopped working, and they want the deposit plus downtime to replace it. I ended up calling Sprint and they sent out a new phone no questions asked and I don't even have the insurance.

First TP (only had for two weeks):
1. Earpiece volume was low
2. Earpiece audio quality was awful **
3. Hardware keys at bottom coming up extremely far **
4. Hardware keyboard unevenly lit **

Second TP (have had to date, since beginning of November):
1. Earpiece volume low
2. Freezing overnight **
3. Hardware keyboard unevenly lit **
4. HARDWARE KEYBOARD STOPPED WORKING **
5. MISSING 90%+ OF CALLS/TEXTS/VOICEMAIL NOTIFICATIONS

I can't think of anything else at the moment. Ones marked with ** seem to be problems that depend on the individual phone.

Poor battery life while running an IM client seems to be the norm. They don't use much data idle, nor many CPU cycles, but if I have beejiveIM signed in, my battery drops about 15-18% an hour. My idle battery consumption is only 1-2% an hour with the Telus radio (it's AMAZING, stock Sprint was 8-10% an hour).

[jmorton10]

Originally Posted by Addicted23

If you buy a car for $50K, you expect to have less problems and better reliability than a car for $5K.

Not really. I am in the car business & I can sell you a used Ford Taurus for $5K that is FAR more dependable than a new Porsche/Beemer.

~John

[rihavens]

Originally Posted by saumaun

rihavens, is your screen really white? Or does it have a yellow tint?

With my screen dimmed, maybe a yellowish tint. But if I turn the brightness up its WHITE. I compare it to my laptop screen on white, and my laptop looks like crap

[rihavens]

Picture. This is going to give you a good idea of what the phone looks like next to notepad on my computer.

[ScrapMaker]

Hearing the constant posting of problematic Touch Pro's makes me very glad I returned mine. It seem that there are SOME that aren't THAT bad--but the majority seem to have issues--and many of the users just don't care, because they are willing to make huge sacrifices.

The normal user is not. Even a business/power user that needs the phone to work is not going to opt for this phone. I would be surprised if ANY IT department picks up this device as their main WM choice.

All I know is all the problems that people said "were not a big deal," don't exist in any way, shape, or form, on my original CDMA Touch.

I feel like I dodged a bullet, because now I can focus on the X1a, Treo Pro, or perhaps the Omnia.... all of which supposedly have score MUCH higher scores on build-quality and reliability--and battery life. (The Treo is still not branded yet, so I can't make TOO many judgements, but it still looks solid, also Palm's standards seem to be higher.)

All in all... I can say "WHEW!" If I was stuck in a 2-year with the Pro, in it's current form, I'd definitely have to break the contract...

[Q_Q]

Let me tell u, coming from the MotoQ, & having tweaked it to the limits, it's almost plugged & play with the TP.

Thanks to every1 here & xda, this is as good as it's going to get for me.
& I am just giddy to today cause I finally learn how to use the touchflo geesh! easier than I had made it.

I was flicking it before - now just apply constant pressure & drag & pull left or right.

Yes, it is good for me

ps - if you are here & you speak of iphone like unbox & play, then you need to gtfo.
Most ppl here like to dabble with a challenge not whine about what it - ultimately you - can't do.

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by Q_Q

Let me tell, coming from the MotoQ, & having tweaked it to the limits, it's almost plugged & play with the TP.

Thanks to every1 here & xda, this is as good as it's going to get for me.
& I am just giddy to today cause I finally learn how to use the touchflo geesh! easier than I had made it.

I was flicking it before - just apply constant pressure & drag & pull left or right.

Yes, it is good for me

ps - if you are here & you speak of iphone like unbox & play, then you need to gtfo.
Most ppl here like to dabble with a challenge not whine about what it - ultimately you - can't do.

I have shown my phones to many people who have never experienced TouchFlo 2D/3D and they've never tried "flicking it." Kind of amusing actually--but I'm glad you figured it out. TF3D is a great stock plug-in, but I think the Pro is really the device that everyone needed to get some badass custom shells going... especially with hardware acceleration, (supposedly,) and bigger specs in general... I imagine there will be some nice stuff arriving shortly...