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Old 11-18-2008, 06:56 PM
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New swapped out Touch PRO is better

I just swapped out out my PRO I got the day before best buy was selling them.

I hard reset many times, reg hacked, soft reset and clicked my heels three times and said "I know theres a good phone".

The issues I was having were:

1)Internet would stop working and not start back up again even though the data connection was on. I demonstated this in the store to the reps as well.
I would have to stop and start the data connection the start the browser or youtube or whatever I was using again.. Every 2 minutes or so.

2)Screen sensitive issues on the edges. Not a big deal but annoying when using the scroll bars.

3)Phone would not answer phone call when using screen or buttons. It would only answer when the person would call back a second time. I did screen alignment many times. It didnt help.

4)Phone would turn off when on charger, and then not start back up.
This caused missed alarms, messages and calls.
I use this phone as an alarm when travelling.

5)Speaker volume ! It was really horrible before. it's pretty good now. Tolerable I should say. It's not muffled like the last one.

6)D-Pad was flimsy on the old one. It would crackle and make noises. The new one is solid.

7) The phone came with GSensor already installed on it. It worked good right out of the box.

Weird noises on the callers end when I would answer. This is gone now.

9) Squeek battery cover. This is also gone and no longer an issue.


More details..
Manufacturer Date 11/3/2008
Software Version 1.03.651.3
Firmware Version 1.03.15F
Harware Version 0002
PRL Version 60614


So all in all I think HTC may have started putting out a different batch of phones. I am happy for now and as long as this phone continues to work as it should. I wouldnt normally post a new thread on something like this, but thought maybe there are some other individuals as frustrated as I was that I paid all that money for a phone that wont answer calls on the first call.

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Old 11-18-2008, 07:07 PM
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Re: New swapped out Touch PRO is better

just sent mine back today, what a peice of garbage. when htc gets it working as a basic phone, then I will try it again...
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:25 AM
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Re: New swapped out Touch PRO is better

I had the exact same thing happen to me. I originally bought my phone from Best Buy. The area at the bottom of the phone was faulty (loose) so I took it to the Sprint store and they ordered me a replacement. My original phone was made mid Oct. and I had all the problems that everyone else did...minus major gps lag. My new phone has a manufacturers date of 11/2/08; Software Version 1.03.651.3; Hardware Version 0002. I haven't had to fix the sound, gps locks in seconds with no lag, and it hasn't locked up on me once.
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:56 AM
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Re: New swapped out Touch PRO is better

I have an 11/3 build date also and I don't seem to experience many of the problems that others here describe. My battery life is far from phenomenal but also far from pitiful, the phone doesn't get excruciatingly hot, and stability is fantastic.

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Old 11-19-2008, 11:35 AM
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Talking I Love This Phone

I recently purchased this phone and for the past week I have been in love... I have the same issues that everyone else has

- Battery last less than a day with normal-heavy usage ( bought multiple chargers.. waiting for seido battery)
- Case creaks when pressure is applied (fixed with tape fix)

So far this is the only issues I have had with the device, I do have the occasional slow down and sluggish performance.. But compaired to other windows mobile phones i've had this one is a dream.. I've gone through so many pda phones and had so many problems that so far the pro's outweigh the cons.

Sprint Visor Prism Phone
- Very heavy
- had to reset at least twice a day
- 36.6 data connection!!
- random lockups and resets
- dropped calls

Treo 300
- Cracked flip
- random lockups and resets
- slooowwwwwww
- non user replaceable battery
- no memory...

Treo 650
- data connection issues... many
- still random resets and lockups
- palm os... getting old...
- sd card issues..

Hitachi G1000
- very very heavy..
- data loss when battery removed
- slow slow slow!
- battery life... literally a 30 minute phone call...
- black/white screen of death...
- Died within first week...

HTC Apache 6700
- Slower than my G1000
- Random memory card issues
- battery life.. Camera sucked

HTC Mogul
- White spots
- button issues on keyboard
- random resets..
- memory leak issue (reason i got rid of it)
- OK battery life...
- 10 seconds after i open the keyboard the phone would think about going to landscape mode..
- typing had to catch up with me.. big annoyance

Blackberry 8703..
- amazing battery life
- no camera
- no touchscreen..
- poor internet browser

I've probally had at least 4-5 other phones as well... none compare!


All of the issues I have had in the past almost make this phone seem perfect to me... yeah the battery life sucks but that's what I expected when I purchased the phone.. I know I'll be purchasing the biggest battery that becomes available the minute it comes out.. The memory issues are gone compared to the mogul for me.. The camera is amazing for a phone and the speed issues are manageable. I have gone from windows mobile and back to windows mobile many times... i just keep coming back to it because of your support.. The support is amazing here and compared to every other OS I have used I love how much these phones can be customized.. Its awesome that the 6700 still has custom roms being made.. that phone isn't even made any more.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: I Love This Phone

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Originally Posted by i700plus View Post
I recently purchased this phone and for the past week I have been in love... I have the same issues that everyone else has

- Battery last less than a day with normal-heavy usage ( bought multiple chargers.. waiting for seido battery)
- Case creaks when pressure is applied (fixed with tape fix)

So far this is the only issues I have had with the device, I do have the occasional slow down and sluggish performance.. But compaired to other windows mobile phones i've had this one is a dream.. I've gone through so many pda phones and had so many problems that so far the pro's outweigh the cons.

Sprint Visor Prism Phone
- Very heavy
- had to reset at least twice a day
- 36.6 data connection!!
- random lockups and resets
- dropped calls

Treo 300
- Cracked flip
- random lockups and resets
- slooowwwwwww
- non user replaceable battery
- no memory...

Treo 650
- data connection issues... many
- still random resets and lockups
- palm os... getting old...
- sd card issues..

Hitachi G1000
- very very heavy..
- data loss when battery removed
- slow slow slow!
- battery life... literally a 30 minute phone call...
- black/white screen of death...
- Died within first week...

HTC Apache 6700
- Slower than my G1000
- Random memory card issues
- battery life.. Camera sucked

HTC Mogul
- White spots
- button issues on keyboard
- random resets..
- memory leak issue (reason i got rid of it)
- OK battery life...
- 10 seconds after i open the keyboard the phone would think about going to landscape mode..
- typing had to catch up with me.. big annoyance

Blackberry 8703..
- amazing battery life
- no camera
- no touchscreen..
- poor internet browser

I've probally had at least 4-5 other phones as well... none compare!


All of the issues I have had in the past almost make this phone seem perfect to me... yeah the battery life sucks but that's what I expected when I purchased the phone.. I know I'll be purchasing the biggest battery that becomes available the minute it comes out.. The memory issues are gone compared to the mogul for me.. The camera is amazing for a phone and the speed issues are manageable. I have gone from windows mobile and back to windows mobile many times... i just keep coming back to it because of your support.. The support is amazing here and compared to every other OS I have used I love how much these phones can be customized.. Its awesome that the 6700 still has custom roms being made.. that phone isn't even made any more.
Agreed - I am fairly new to windows mobile and to this forum. There is some real knowledgeable people here that are more than happy to help. Much appreciated. And the TP really speaks for itself. I was pretty impressed with the out of the box usability with this phone. Not a real emergency to flash a custom rom. They did a good job. Not that it mattered for me, I like tweaking my phone anyway
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Old 11-19-2008, 11:53 AM
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how would you change the Touch Pro

inspired by engadget's "how would you change"...
basically your wishlist for the Touch Pro so HTC with these little fixes can give us the perferct phone.

I suggest to do this in 2 parts:

A: Hardware (stuff that are too late to change now but that HTC can work on for their replacement to the touch Pro in a year or two).

B: Software (stuff that can still can be upgraded by HTC or the community)

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A)

1: standard headphone jack

2: Bigger screen (by covering screen on the whole front face and removing the front buttons, and maybe make the overall size a little bigger).

3: add buttons on the sides to offset the removed buttons on the front. re-add the scroll button (the one that is on the left side of the mogul).

4: make the phone less fat (should be 2/3 of what it is now, the size of what is the silver now)

5: capacitive screen

6: longer battery life

7: smoother mecanism when opening the phone. (like the mogul or g1)



B)
1: faster

2: instanteneous response when typing (no delay)

3: screen instanteneously go to landscape when opening keyboard

4: landscape manilla

5: easy manilla customising

6: dual boot winmo 6.5/ android

7: xperia panels

8: handling medias better (like iphone/ipod touch)

I might have to add more later but this is what comes to mind as of now.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:27 AM
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Re: Touch Pro Reviews

Scored a new one today, couldn't hang with the earpiece volume anymore. It sounds a lot better, haven't had time to play with other things to see if everything is working. I was disappointed in the date though. Got it from BB and they said they just came in yesterday, but the date was only 10/29/2008. I was expecting something later...oh well, as long as it works.
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Old 11-27-2008, 03:32 AM
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Re: Touch Pro Reviews

Thought I would chime in here.......
I purchased the VZW TP 2 days ago. It is being sent back tomorrow.
Reasons:
Cost: I spent 300 bux on this thing and in my opinion, it is not worth 50 bux.
Build quality: Pretty good except for what appears to me a bubble in the lower center of the screen. Should have been caught with QC.
Responsiveness with operating system: I would love to throw this thing out my car window one day just to laugh about it. This thing is so dang slow it ain't funny. Forget even making a call while driving, you get so messed up because you have to wait forever for the phone to respond to what you are doing and constantly have to look down to see what the phone is doing. I'm not wrecking my Eclipse over this thing.
Responsiveness with TF3D: As above, sure it looks great but you can't even run it because it slows the phone down even worse than what it is.
Camera: Impossible to take a picture. I can't even take a picture of a fence post without it blurring due to a 5 to 7 second lag between clicking the button and when the shutter actually snaps.
SMS: With my trusty ol razr v3m, when I get an sms there is no waiting for 2 minutes for a sound that comes with that message.

Not to mention I get a message all the time saying that Voice Command has stopped due to low memory, and I need to close programs. I don't have anything opened. Geesh.

And...battery life is aweful at best. The specs say 250 minutes talk, 250 hours standby or something like that (I may be wrong), but I can't make it 8 hours without it dying.

I have been reading and waiting on this phone for several months now and even got up at 1am when VZW put it on their site so I could get it. Wish I hadn't now, this thing is beyond horrible.
Not trying to start a flame war, but this is just my opinion. Something is either badly wrong with this phone or VZW should be hung for thinking the public would accept something like this.

JUST A REMINDER: This is a review of the VERIZON version of the TP. The TP itself is an amazing phone, but once given to Verizon....you wind up with something about useless.....

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Old 11-28-2008, 11:37 PM
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Re: Touch Pro Reviews

This is just a quick post but my first impression of the phone in comparison to my 700wx & PPC6700 was wow!. The general user can use this phone for probably about anything they are going to do right out of the box. Alot of the tweaks/hacks that we all did & software that we paid for on the Treo 700wx are already included or have been fixed in WM6.1, which Sprint should have given us an upgrade for anyway but I know their goal is to sell more phones so I guess it's working. Off the subject, anyway us geeks/power users can limp by happier than before for a week or so without modding anything with this phone and that says alot, I've had mine for about a week and haven't been on PPCGeeks in that time so I've been ecstatic about this phone. The size difference and increase in hardware & system functionality are tremendous and I haven't had any error messages or had to reset once, a soft reset was necessary 3-4 times a day at moderate use with the 700wx after making a few adjustments from a hard reset. HTC gets two thumbs-up from me and Sprint gets a pat on the back for now. Of course we are all going to customize and tweak to our own liking but I think most of us won't necessarily need anything more than freeware and the great minds here on this forum. I did have battery issues the first day of use but I think that may have been from insufficient charge or leaving an app. running...all we need now is an extended battery for the CDMA version without going to a bigger back cover.

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