Is Windows Mobile Vanishing?

[awenthol]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

I gave the stock ROM a chance. I had to- there was no hard SPL yet.

And yeah, the stock ROM sucked, big time.

Having said that- the stock ROM is not Microsoft's fault. That is a Sprint (and HTC) thing. The fact that you can use a custom ROM that prforms much better (and at a satisfactory level) just means Microsoft actually got it right. The problem is Sprint customized the ROM in an unsatisfactory manner. And this is the normal thing for carriers to do.

(Agreeing, not arguing) Yes, but that is the point, isn't it? Sprint...Verizon...etc all do their thing to "WinMo" but the unknowing customer just assumes it's all WinMo's fault. This furthers the perception of Windows being garbage.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by i360

Android will own all in a couple of years I can see it already.

- Not an Android, Apple or Windows fan-boy by any stretch

you are 100% correct. No matter what happens with winmo 7, android will be the biggest smartphone os after this year. apple, blackberry, nor winmo can stop it. Everybody keeps saying winmo is for business users blah blah, pretty soon android will have those business apps and consumer friendly apps then everyone will fall off. android is the new iphone and we all know how big the iphone is. winmo 7 isn't dead but after another year it won't be able to touch android. I personally will stick with winmo as long as i start seeing develpers support them. But just because us ppcgeeks will stick with windows doesn't mean the rest of the world will, especially here in the US.

[TITOMSD]

just my opinion but windows is actually boring already..i just dont understand how big a company windows is and they cant keep up with os that have been out such as blackberry iphone up to the new comers such as webos and android...im waiting til this 6.5 to come out to decide if i keep my tp2 or just use my upgrade and get something else

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by grandzu

It doesn't bode well.
For WM to go from 90% to 20% in 4 years (and to 50% from 90% in one year) and Android to be in 30% of their phones next year, it seems like thats the way its headed.
Motorola has dropped Windows Mobile from its line entirely in a switch to Android
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/te...26android.html

LOL, that is not the way it's headed (Android). Samsung created their own OS and they are going to be implementing it. That's why they are cutting back on Windows Mobile.

[avoider03]

Originally Posted by grandzu

Well Samsung has said it will no longer use WinMo for its phones
But its all about marketshare and customer satisfaction and WinMo has the lowest.
As of the third quarter in 2009, out of 41 million smartphones sold,

• Symbian finished first with 44.6%
• Research in Motion's BlackBerry OS finished second with 20.8%
• iPhone finished third with 17.1%
• Windows Mobile had 7.9%
• Android is 1.8 percent but is estimated to grow to about 12%-15% by 2012

Also Android is free whereas WinMo costs the phone maker $25 per handset.

I listen to a lot of podcasts (TWIT, etc.) and when they list smartphones, it's: iPhone, Blackberry and Palm Pre. Usually no mention of WM or Symbian!

[quickstang]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Microsoft has a bigger market share than Android right now. It's Android who is trying to do the catching up...

Oh yeah, and Microsoft already owns a phone manufacturer- Danger (makers of Sidekick). So they have everything ready to go if they decide to make their own phone.

Supposedly the new news is that the Sidekick is being phased out.

http://www.electronista.com/articles....of.sidekicks/

Now I see the project pink, but according to Engadget, it will be geared towards teens and 20 somethings. For me, I dont fit into this category.

You are right that Android is trying to catch up, but the way it looks, it wont take long before they do.

In fact, posted 55 minutes ago at 9:09 pm which was WAY after my post this morning, I am reading this...

http://www.itworld.com/mobile-amp-wi...hone-slot-2013

"In the report, IDC's crystal ball is figuring that from the meager beginnings of 690,000 Android units in 2008, there should be 68 million Android-based devices on the market by 2013, putting in second place on the mobile device market. That's a compound annual growth rate of 150.4 percent, for those of you keeping score at home."

"While news from IDC doesn't specify the fate of Blackberry and Windows Mobile, it would be more than fair to guess that Blackberry has been taking (and will continue to take) a beating from Apple's iPhone and the smaller number of apps, compared to iPhone and even now, Android."

"As for Windows Mobile, it's been virtually invisible on the mobile scene, having been distinctly absent from the CES show in Vegas earlier this month. There's been some buzz lately around Windows Mobile 7, but mostly with Microsoft's Robbie Bach (President, Entertainment & Devices Division) talking smack about Android at CES rather than promote WM7. Maybe it's my Midwestern upbringing showing, but if you have to trash talk a competitor before your product is even near launch, that strikes me as being less-than-confident about your work."

Did someone read my post about this topic and write about it? lol

[brownhornet]

First of all keep in mind that windows mobile is already has one of the smallest marketshares anyways. iphone pretty much dominates the mobile market in the US followed by Android... with winmo bringing up the rear. I've already jumped ship... after flashing tons of different roms and doing all the tweaks etc, the just doesnt appeal to me anymore. And i've been with winmo since the mogul, had the vogue and the tp1. But honestly mobile technology is just going so far and beyond what winmo has to offer I just couldnt even see myself buying another winmo phone.

I still have the tp2 mainly because im on an advantage plan and only pay $20 a month for my sprint line.. but I bought an iphone 3gs 32gig and honestly my tp2 has been collecting dust since I got it. People can bash the iphone all they want, but having both... i love the iphone. They really werent lying when they said th get it up there's an app for that because there are apps for pretty much everything. Best part about it was I didnt have to hack the hell out of it just to get it to an acceptable speed.

I will probably keep my tp2 active until that sprint android phone comes out later in the year but I think im pretty much done with winmo. I dont even bother flashing roms anymore.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by brownhornet

First of all keep in mind that windows mobile is already has one of the smallest marketshares anyways. iphone pretty much dominates the mobile market in the US followed by Android... with winmo bringing up the rear. I've already jumped ship... after flashing tons of different roms and doing all the tweaks etc, the just doesnt appeal to me anymore. And i've been with winmo since the mogul, had the vogue and the tp1. But honestly mobile technology is just going so far and beyond what winmo has to offer I just couldnt even see myself buying another winmo phone.

I still have the tp2 mainly because im on an advantage plan and only pay $20 a month for my sprint line.. but I bought an iphone 3gs 32gig and honestly my tp2 has been collecting dust since I got it. People can bash the iphone all they want, but having both... i love the iphone. They really werent lying when they said th get it up there's an app for that because there are apps for pretty much everything. Best part about it was I didnt have to hack the hell out of it just to get it to an acceptable speed.

I will probably keep my tp2 active until that sprint android phone comes out later in the year but I think im pretty much done with winmo. I dont even bother flashing roms anymore.

You can like the iPhone, that's fine. But you're wrong about your market share claims. Windows Mobile has a WAY bigger market share than Android, and it's not even close. The actual numbers are posted a few times in this thread.

Yeah, there's an app for that alright, lol. Good luck tethering or watching a sling box... Also, good luck using something as simple as an instant messenger since you can't multi task...

[WorldWide]

As long as it rings, gives me my emails and functions as a GPS device I'm happy.

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

You can like the iPhone, that's fine. But you're wrong about your market share claims. Windows Mobile has a WAY bigger market share than Android, and it's not even close. The actual numbers are posted a few times in this thread.

Yeah, there's an app for that alright, lol. Good luck tethering or watching a sling box... Also, good luck using something as simple as an instant messenger since you can't multi task...

Thats the whole point... I dont give a damn about a slingbox because I never used it even when I had winmo. Dont give a damn about microsoft office mobile because I never used that either. And FYI my phone is jailbroken and yes, I can multi-task. As a matter of fact I have palringo, yahoo and my ipod running right now. Fail on your assumptions but nice try.

Having both, the iphone is WAY faster, a LOT more responsive and does pretty much everything I need. I expect the iphone bashing here since folks are so pro winmo but I have no alliance to an OS.. I have an alliance to the OS that works the best and at this point thats not winmo.