Who plans to go HD2?

SporkLover · #1 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rorytmeadows

So basically Sprint just admitting to wasting company money investing in WiMax. If they need to make statements like that saying they can just upgrade the software (we'll see), then maybe they should have just invested in LTE in the first place. Especially since it's theoretically faster technology.

That's not Sprint. Thats Clearwire. When Clearwire began building it's Wimax network, LTE was a unicorn. It was a non-approved standard that wasn't commercially viable. WiMax was. WiMax had other actual deployments too.

The fact that Clearwire can switch, and has network flexibility, means they have positioned themselves well.

Sprint's investment in WiMax actually has less to do with a desire to roll out a 4g network than a desire to not lose valuable Spectrum. Sprint had a bunch of unused Spectrum that the FCC said they would take away from Sprint if they didn't use it. Sprint decided to utilize it with the deployment of a commercially ready 4G technology.

**p-slim** · #2 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SporkLover

That's not Sprint. Thats Clearwire. When Clearwire began building it's Wimax network, LTE was a unicorn. It was a non-approved standard that wasn't commercially viable. WiMax was. WiMax had other actual deployments too.

The fact that Clearwire can switch, and has network flexibility, means they have positioned themselves well.

Sprint's investment in WiMax actually has less to do with a desire to roll out a 4g network than a desire to not lose valuable Spectrum. Sprint had a bunch of unused Spectrum that the FCC said they would take away from Sprint if they didn't use it. Sprint decided to utilize it with the deployment of a commercially ready 4G technology.

i think you guys are losing the technology battle with sporklover. his statements are factual and honestly starting wimax now and keeping up with tmobiles supposed switch to 10mg download hypothetically and then switching to lte without that much hassel (will probably just require purchasing new devices) does seem like a good way to go, I definitely won't mind the speed increase while they take another year or 2 to roll out lte.

rorytmeadows · #3 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim

i think you guys are losing the technology battle with sporklover. his statements are factual and honestly starting wimax now and keeping up with tmobiles supposed switch to 10mg download hypothetically and then switching to lte without that much hassel (will probably just require purchasing new devices) does seem like a good way to go, I definitely won't mind the speed increase while they take another year or 2 to roll out lte.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/16/c...ents/21735206/

Straight from the comments section of the article he linked.

**BlackDynamite** · #4 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim

i think you guys are losing the technology battle with sporklover. his statements are factual and honestly starting wimax now and keeping up with tmobiles supposed switch to 10mg download hypothetically and then switching to lte without that much hassel (will probably just require purchasing new devices) does seem like a good way to go, I definitely won't mind the speed increase while they take another year or 2 to roll out lte.

You're crazy. The comments that rorytmeadows posted from the very link that sporklover posted pretty much summed it up. Nobody with any knowledge on this believes that nonsense about them being the only carrier in the world who can change with a software upgrade overnight. LOL, ridiculous.

**p-slim** · #5 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

You're crazy. The comments that rorytmeadows posted from the very link that sporklover posted pretty much summed it up. Nobody with any knowledge on this believes that nonsense about them being the only carrier in the world who can change with a software upgrade overnight. LOL, ridiculous.

whether you want to believe it or not, they said they can do it and thats that. now you're calling them a liar, thats a different story. As of right now they said they can do it so we have to go off that.

rorytmeadows · #6 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim

whether you want to believe it or not, they said they can do it and thats that. now you're calling them a liar, thats a different story. As of right now they said they can do it so we have to go off that.

haha we HAVE to go off that? Did you also listen to AIG executives when they told you everything was okay?

**BlackDynamite** · #7 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim

whether you want to believe it or not, they said they can do it and thats that. now you're calling them a liar, thats a different story. As of right now they said they can do it so we have to go off that.

I'm not the only one calling them a liar. In fact, I haven't seen one single person in the know who actually believes it. Did you read the comments inthe link rorytmeadows posted? Nobody buys that BS.

it's like saying they are the only network in the world who could change from CDMA to GSM with an overnight software upgrade. Utterly ridiculous.

WisdomWolfX · #8 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

I'm not the only one calling them a liar. In fact, I haven't seen one single person in the know who actually believes it. Did you read the comments inthe link rorytmeadows posted? Nobody buys that BS.

it's like saying they are the only network in the world who could change from CDMA to GSM with an overnight software upgrade. Utterly ridiculous.

I think someone got confused here. Obviously no one can prove that they are the ONLY one that can change tech, but I'm guessing they are saying that based on the fact that they are the ONLY one in the US with a 4G OFDM network. So, technically, they are the only ones that can change from one to the other RIGHT NOW.

There's no point in disputing whether or not they could flip the switch to change tech because LTE and Wimax are far more similar than some may realize. They are not nearly as different as CDMA and GSM.

**BlackDynamite** · #9 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WisdomWolfX

I think someone got confused here. Obviously no one can prove that they are the ONLY one that can change tech, but I'm guessing they are saying that based on the fact that they are the ONLY one in the US with a 4G OFDM network. So, technically, they are the only ones that can change from one to the other RIGHT NOW.

There's no point in disputing whether or not they could flip the switch to change tech because LTE and Wimax are far more similar than some may realize. They are not nearly as different as CDMA and GSM.

Similar, yes. But they still require different hardware.

**BlackDynamite** · #10 (**permalink**) 12-31-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SporkLover

That's not Sprint. Thats Clearwire. When Clearwire began building it's Wimax network, LTE was a unicorn. It was a non-approved standard that wasn't commercially viable. WiMax was. WiMax had other actual deployments too.

The fact that Clearwire can switch, and has network flexibility, means they have positioned themselves well.

Sprint's investment in WiMax actually has less to do with a desire to roll out a 4g network than a desire to not lose valuable Spectrum. Sprint had a bunch of unused Spectrum that the FCC said they would take away from Sprint if they didn't use it. Sprint decided to utilize it with the deployment of a commercially ready 4G technology.

Uh, Wimax is also not an approved 4G standard either. And the fact remains that they are claiming to be the only ones in the world who can change between them without a change in hardware. You mean to tell me the first people who laid it out are the only ones who made such a flexible network? Nobody else in the world could look at what they did and emulate it?

LOL, laughable that anyone would believe that nonsense.