Can it be true?

[Paragon]

Originally Posted by Malatesta

As far as the 6800: too little too late.

I mean it's a nice device and I'm sure 6700 users will be thrilled but I mean seriously:

- doesn't launch with WM6
- No front camera for vid conferencing? that's what RevA was all about
- 2mp camera? Should be 3mp by now.
- Still QVGA?
- No Built in GPS?

Wow, Malatesta, I going to have to argue with you on some of this.

Windows Moible 6.0...Yes it should have shipped with it, but it's nothing great. I sure wouldn't pass on a device because it didn't have it. WM6.0 just isn't much of an upgrade itself.

Video calling? Of all the people I know in the mobile world, I don't know a single one who uses video calling, other than to try it out. I definitely don't want to have to pay for that hardware on my device.

It's not megapixels that make a camera, it is the quality of the lens. I don't think we a going to see real quality lens in phones for awhile. Yes I know some phones by some stroke of luck put out not bad pictures, but for real quality we need good lens....again I don't want to have to pay for that kind of hardware on my phone. I think HTC realizes that is how most people feel so they don't put them in.

QVGA/VGA QVGA is pretty tight when you compare it to 3.5" screens that 320x240 was designed for. If you put VGA on a 2.8" screen the dot pitch has to be adjusted so that it is readable with the naked eye, and you are then back to where we started, but a bunch of resources have been wasted on it. You then have to do a reg hack to enable true VGA, and on that 2.8" screen you'll never read it without a magnifying glass. VGA just isn't a very viable, workable option on 2.8" screens

GPS, I don't really get it. It has AGPS built in just like pretty much every dumb phone on the planet today, why not go the rest of the route and make it a usable component on this device I have no idea. Its definitely a high end enough device to warrant it. It really should have GPS.

Dave

[Malatesta]

Originally Posted by Paragon

Wow, Malatesta, I going to have to argue with you on some of this.

lol, and I'll retort

VGA: iMate Ulitmate series

5150 = 2.8 = VGA
6150 = 2.8 = VGA
8150 = 2.6 = VGA
9150 = 2.6 = VGA

Eten Goldfish x800; x500+= 2.8 = VGA

Gigabyte g-Smart t600 = 2.6 = VGA

and I think Asus might have a few coming out.

Your VGA argument about "screen/pixel" size really doesn't hold up, imo. I have never heard anyone complaining about having VGA on a 2.6 or 2.8 " screen.

Wm6 is imperative if you use Exchange 2007 and want server search, html email, and better scheduling. I'm just saying...it's a phone coming out in May without it. It would have been nice to include. Not a deal breaker but it says a lot.

Re: 3mp camera

I think HTC realizes that is how most people feel so they don't put them in.

the HTC Kaiser has a 3mp camera (and a cool kick stand effect for the screen)



re: Video conferencing

Well, some would like to use that feature and the added upload limit of RevA would have been good for that. Some HTC devices already have it: Hermes, Shift, O2 Flame etc. They must have put it there for a reason, lol.

Basically, had it been a CDMA of the Kaiser w/VGA instead, I would have been really impressed or anything like the iMate ultimate line.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=733

[Paragon]

Ha ha ha. My money says iMate never get to market with those devices and those specs. They've already been proved wrong on the hard to believe small dimensions of some of them. As I said, VGA has to have the dot pitch adjusted to view it properly, which all those device do/will have done taking them back to where we are.

Yeah, video conferencing is in a few GSM devices, but it sure ain't used much. It's an uber-geek thing that doesn't get used much unless you are a starship captain.

As I said I agree with WM6.0. I don't know why it's not there, and it's not a deal breaker.

Dave