official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

[gTen]

Originally Posted by p-slim

after froyo introducing the wifi app natively, its going to be forever before sprint and htc have a froyo rom ready for release

sprint will just make HTC lock it/remove it. Minor change...

[Biggzz]

I am torn as what to do...I have a $15 data plan that wont work and 1000 shared minutes for $50 so add 69.99 + 10.00 and i just went from $65 to 130 plus...That makes a dent. I might still do it though. Can't decide....

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

It's the fine print at the bottom of www.sprint.com/evo and if it was a misprint, then they would have addressed it by now.

to be honest i don't think its even a mis print. it says "Sprint mobile hotspot required to access wifi on device" if you want any type of wifi device like a laptop to access wifi off the evo, you need the sprint mobile hotspot. The wording is actually correct but just very vague.

[brownhornet]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Ahhh ok then I dont feel bad for him...lol




CW

yea yea lol... trust me I will find a way to get it... there's just a question of whether or not theyll activate it once I do

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by MiniEOD

eh... not really... the difference here is that the phone, like many phones now, have a wifi antenna, which allows to connect to wifi signals, and then access that network for data reception (instead of the phones cellular data signal)

that is wifi

then you have mobile hotspotting...which is what clearwire currently has, who sprint is working with....

this is allowing you to take your phones cellular data signal and allow other devices with wifi antennas to access the stream.... transferring cellular data signal, through the phone, making your phone act as a router, and then picking up this signal on another device, to have broadband connectivity speeds

you can clearly see there are two very different things going on here

if you connect 8 laptops to your phone's hotspot, all accessing 4G data... its going to be a lot of data transferring through

thus, sprint is charging $29.99 per month to activate this feature... THIS feature

they will not ask you to pay 29.99 to connect to your home's wireless router and enjoy quicker speeds, it has no relation to sprint's data streams...in fact, it takes strain off of their network

these are two different types of wifi, and it will be easy to block your phone from acting as a wifi hotspot, while still being able to access your local starbuck's wifi signal


plus in your example, what does it matter if your router has access to your phone's wifi? your router is not going to use the cell signal to process data...it is strictly for hotspotting..where your device is working as a transmitter....



TL;DR in wifi use, the phone is a receiver of data only, using broadband wifi signals the same way your laptop would in order to stream data to the laptop / phone...in hot spot use, the phone is a transmitter and receiver of data, acting as a router itself, but instead of the router receiving signal through fiber optic or cable lines, it is receiving it through the 4G sprint towers

You're wrong man. WiFi requires 2 way communication to work, period. Regardless of weather the phone is sending its data connection to another device or receiving it's data signal from another device, the WiFi adapter is always both a sender and a receiver. It has to tell the router which web page to seek, and then it has to receive the web page from the router.

Now, if Sprint had said, "hotspot add on required for another device to access the Evo's data connection" then you would be correct. but they didn't say that. They said "hotspot add on required to access the device's WiFi" which is not good at all.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

You're wrong man. WiFi requires 2 way communication to work, period. Regardless of weather the phone is sending its data connection to another device or receiving it's data signal from another device, the WiFi adapter is always both a sender and a receiver. It has to tell the router which web page to seek, and then it has to receive the web page from the router.

Now, if Sprint had said, "hotspot add on required for another device to access the Evo's data connection" then you would be correct. but they didn't say that. They said "hotspot add on required to access the device's WiFi" which is not good at all.

exactly the modem built into phone is what access wifi, not anything that sprint puts into the phone. Which is why even if the phone is not activated you can still access wifi. Sprint has no way of blocking out wifi access to wifi access points like starbucks or a home network.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by brownhornet

yea yea lol... trust me I will find a way to get it... there's just a question of whether or not theyll activate it once I do

they will activate it for you no problem, actually you can activate it yourself over the web. now its just a matter if your plan is compatible with those types of phone. if your plan is compatible you can switch it with no worries.

[MiniEOD]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

You're wrong man. WiFi requires 2 way communication to work, period. Regardless of weather the phone is sending its data connection to another device or receiving it's data signal from another device, the WiFi adapter is always both a sender and a receiver. It has to tell the router which web page to seek, and then it has to receive the web page from the router.

Now, if Sprint had said, "hotspot add on required for another device to access the Evo's data connection" then you would be correct. but they didn't say that. They said "hotspot add on required to access the device's WiFi" which is not good at all.

yes, i know... you send and receive packets...

i type in www.google.com on my computer, and it sends packets to the router telling it what to access, and the router sends packets to my computer with the information

thank you very much for internets 101

while you are correct in your basics of how transmitting wireless data signals works....however, YOU are wrong in the rest

i should have been more clear... your phone, yes, will be both sending and receiving packets...but it will only act as a receiver for data packets... if it connects to a router to do this , so what? is your phone going to become the router, and the actual router is going to start displaying received information????? that is absurd, your "model" makes no sense

they cannot limit the use of your wifi antenna...it is hardware...it is always there.... if i turn off my iphones 3g and EDGE connection, i can still use my wifi...just like said before... if you buy the device and do not activate it, you will still be able to use the wifi ... it has nothing to do with network service or data service -- NOTHING

now... the hotspotting is an actual service...the same as how cell signal is a service, so is hotspotting...

dont believe me? go get a no frills phone, with a cell plan...and then go get a clearwire subscription for wireless computing... you have two plans... doing two different things

this phone allows the two to merge, so if you wish to activate the hotspotting service, you pay extra

please dont tell me i am wrong... youre in far far left field.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by p-slim

exactly the modem built into phone is what access wifi, not anything that sprint puts into the phone. Which is why even if the phone is not activated you can still access wifi. Sprint has no way of blocking out wifi access to wifi access points like starbucks or a home network.

They clearly say you need the add on to access wifi on the device. I am pretty sure they didn't mean to say "you need the hotspot add on in order to use the phone's internet connection on another device."

I think people are just so excited about this device they can't see the forest through the trees. Sprint said exactly what they meant to say, and if it was a misprint they would have corrected it by now.

[MiniEOD]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

They clearly say you need the add on to access wifi on the device. I am pretty sure they didn't mean to say "you need the hotspot add on in order to use the phone's internet connection on another device."

I think people are just so excited about this device they can't see the forest through the trees. Sprint said exactly what they meant to say, and if it was a misprint they would have corrected it by now.

haha ok ... you are right... i award you 7 internets

this does not need to be discussed any farther ... the correct explanation is posted a few times... the end