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Old 07-12-2007, 02:39 AM
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Sprint xv6700

I love my ppc-6700 but it's banged up. I have a brand new shiny xv6700 thru work but don't want to sign up with verizon. My sprint esn is all good and I think I understand how to clone...can I use the xv6700 on Sprint by flashing a sprint rom?
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:56 AM
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You might not want to talk about changing your ESN on a public forum, it's not really legal. But if you think you can figure it out how to do that, flashing another carrier's rom onto a phone should be a piece of cake
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It's more than just flashing another carrier's ROM (extROM, actually).
Changing the ESN needs to be done within the firmware on the device. You will need one of a few specific programs, along with your Sprint phone's information and a good set of directions (I believe some are included somewhere on this site).
Proceed with caution as you can really screw things up- and as the previous poster said, it ain't legal, so I wouldn't "advertise".
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:29 PM
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You might not want to talk about changing your ESN on a public forum, it's not really legal.
I've heard this a few times, but nobody ever tells me which law is being broken. You could certainly do similar things if your purpose was moving a GSM phone between providers. Is there a special CDMA law?
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:11 AM
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Here is a description of the law that is broken- taken from the FCC website:
Cellular fraud is defined as the unauthorized use, tampering, or manipulation of a cellular phone or service. Cellular industry estimates indicate that carriers lose more than $150 million per year to cellular fraud, with the principal cause being subscription fraud. Subscriber fraud occurs when a subscriber signs up for service with fraudulently obtained customer information or false identification.

In the past, cloning of cellular phones was a major concern. A cloned cellular telephone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN) belonging to another (legitimate) cellular telephone. Unscrupulous persons obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the transmissions from the cellular telephones of legitimate subscribers. Each cellular telephone is supposed to have a unique factory-set ESN. After cloning, however, because both cellular telephones then have the same ESN/MIN combination, cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cellular telephone from the legitimate one.



In an Order, the Commission adopted a rule (22.919) requiring that all cellular telephones for which type acceptance is sought after January 1, 1995 must be designed such that the factory set ESN can not be reprogrammed. At the same time, the Commission stated that it considers any knowing use of cellular telephone with an altered ESN to be a violation of the Communications Act (Section 301) and alteration of the ESN in a cellular telephone to be assisting in such violation. The Wireless Telephone Protection Act (Public Law 105-172) was signed into law on April 24, 1998, expanding the prior law to criminalize the use, possession, manufacture or sale of cloning hardware or software.

The cellular equipment manufacturing industry has deployed authentication systems that have proven to be a very effective countermeasure to cloning. Authentication supplements the use of the ESN and MIN with a changing encrypted code that can not be obtained by off-the-air monitoring.

And here is part of a statute that describes the penalty:
With respect to cellular phone cloning, the Act makes clear that a person convicted of such an offense without a prior section 1029 conviction is subject to a statutory maximum of 15 years; a person convicted of such an offense after a prior section 1029 conviction is subject to a statutory maximum of 20 years.

I hope that's good enough.
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Old 07-13-2007, 06:31 PM
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You might not want to talk about changing your ESN on a public forum, it's not really legal.
I've heard this a few times, but nobody ever tells me which law is being broken. You could certainly do similar things if your purpose was moving a GSM phone between providers. Is there a special CDMA law?
Also note that switching providers, GSM or otherwise, doesn't change the ESN. As noted, it is supposed to be part of the firmware and unchangeable.
The fact that there are methods to get around this doesn't mean that it's supposed to happen.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:18 PM
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Thanks for the advice, I am still figuring things out,anyone out there actually using the xv6700 on the Sprint network? Love the forum thanks everyone.
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:44 PM
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i'm actually wanting to go the opposite way because my xv6700 is way beat up and there seems to be TONS of PPC-6700's for sale!
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Um... if it is only the looks of the phone you are concerned about, and the electronics are still good, fire up ebay and buy one with a wasted screen or bad esn for 40 bucks or so. I've also seen new or undamaged cases for 30-60 and screen/digitizer combos for under 50. There is a disassembly guide somewhere on the ftp that will help swapping all the bits. Prolly a lot simpler and definitely the safer way to go.

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