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Old 02-25-2008, 03:55 PM
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Re: WMWifiRouter

Maybe if you read between the lines with a different angle than "That bastard Chainfire wants to rip us off"... Guess I haven't done enough for you lately.
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:08 PM
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Re: WMWifiRouter

no matter what anybody says, he has done wonders for the users everywhere. Give him some support and credit. Obviously he has his own reasons for doing what he wants with his own product. Even though my comments might not mean much, thank you chainfire for your contrbutions to the community and good luck on all future endeavours that come your way
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Old 02-26-2008, 05:35 PM
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Re: WMWifiRouter

Chainfire,
Your product is still a hot item. 'Bastard Chainfire' now that is to funny... I will continue with what I have and when there is a better version that works as great v.91, I will buy it and continue to support your product. Thanks for great product!
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:25 AM
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Re: WMWifiRouter

Chainfire, I wouldn't take things personally. Given the option between finding the older free version and paying for a new version that does not YET have significant changes, you'll find that many will seek out the old version. The reason I stressed YET, though, is I've seen how far you've developed the app so far and I know that very soon, the older version just won't cut it. You know as much as anyone how much us geeks are fanatics for our phones. We can't just sit on something when we know something better is waiting for us. I'm all for developers being able to recoup their investment in their software, be it time you invested, money you spent for development tools, etc.

I can even appreciate the need to turn a profit :O I can't see spending as much time as you are without being able to turn a profit. In order to create this program you had to take time away from either work, family or fun. In all those cases, you gave up something to do this. As such, you should be reimbursed for that effort by those who feel the need to use WMWifiRouter. I say, just keep doing what you are doing. WMWifiRouter will advance and at some point become irresistible to those who are now using the older version.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:42 PM
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Maybe if you read between the lines with a different angle than "That bastard Chainfire wants to rip us off"... Guess I haven't done enough for you lately.
Easy there sparky

Just recall that a lot of people do a lot of "free" work in the ppc space - people like the folks working on rom kitchens, people here and at xda who make and give away a lot of applications. People who run websites. You know, the people all around you here and at xda developers.

Specifically for THIS app, which is a nice integration of some manual steps and some patches that were documented over at XDA, its somewhat troubling to see it go commercial.

You can choose to do whatever you want - 20+ years ago I used to do shareware for the Newton, I got a few dinners out of it, and finally decided to just give the stuff away. But then I had/have a full time job and do this stuff for fun.

You could consider supporting the free version as is, and then release an improved one for $$ - no support for the free one, etc....
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:46 PM
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Easy there sparky

Just recall that a lot of people do a lot of "free" work in the ppc space - people like the folks working on rom kitchens, people here and at xda who make and give away a lot of applications. People who run websites. You know, the people all around you here and at xda developers.
Yeah I know, and I support them (through effort - I'm on several beta teams - as well as money) and will continue to do so.

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Specifically for THIS app, which is a nice integration of some manual steps and some patches that were documented over at XDA, its somewhat troubling to see it go commercial.
While this may be somewhat true for the earlier versions (say up to 0.5), the latest versions incorporate no patches and use only a handful of tweaks orginating from XDA (MSDN, dissassembling, etc, ugh!). Most of the stuff is done in very different ways from the original posts by fluxist and TalynOne. Add to that that a fair number of these things were documented by yours truly (either directly through posting or PM's with TalynOne and then added to the opening posts), and a bunch of this stuff isn't documented anywhere at all, I fail to see what's so troubling about it.

To each their own opinions though, I'm done discussing it. I have my reasons, if you like to think it is because I want to make this my day job or see it (or you guys) as a cash cow, then go right ahead.
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:31 PM
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Re: WMWifiRouter

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To each their own opinions though, I'm done discussing it. I have my reasons, if you like to think it is because I want to make this my day job or see it (or you guys) as a cash cow, then go right ahead.
No wait, you can't say that and leave it there... so you're charging for it because you don't want to make money? Now that's a cunning plan!

Hey, I wish you all the luck in the world with it.
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Old 02-27-2008, 06:27 PM
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Re: WMWifiRouter

at the risk of pissing some ppl off i'm going to post THIS
http://rapidshare.com/files/91466355...r_091.CAB.html
LET THE FLAMING OF ME BEGIN

P.S. if you haven't figured it out i'm of the mind since this was released free it should still be so
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:39 PM
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You know ppl if u hate him that much WRITE YOUR OWN DAMN PROGRAM!!!!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:10 AM
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You know ppl if u hate him that much WRITE YOUR OWN DAMN PROGRAM!!!!!
i second that. i dont use wmwifirouter, but it is an amazing app. and im sure it was hard to build up as good as he has. support good programers that deserve it.
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