PPCGeeks Forums HTC Arrive HTC HD2 HTC Thunderbolt HTC Touch Pro 2 HTC Evo 4G HTC Evo 3D Samsung Galaxy S II Motorola Droid X Apple iPhone Blackberry
Go Back   PPCGeeks > Windows Mobile > WM HTC Devices > HTC Touch Pro > CDMA TP Development
Register Community Search

Notices


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #541 (permalink)  
Old 10-07-2009, 11:47 PM
PPCGeeks4ME's Avatar
PPCGeeks Regular
Offline
Pocket PC: HTC Touch Pro
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 97
Reputation: 130
PPCGeeks4ME is keeping up the good workPPCGeeks4ME is keeping up the good work
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by chronster View Post
so is signal strength what causes the battery drain? If not, which one of these radio's uses the least power?
That's when you have to be more careful with what you mean by "signal strength."

If by "signal strength" you mean the signal-to-noise ratio of your carrier band in a certain area, then greater signal strength actually means less battery consumption. The phone will not have to spend as much power amplifying the signal and separating it from the noise; also, because the signal is clearer, the phone can turn down its output pwoer for the signal it sends back to the tower (the strength of which is regulated by the tower, BTW).

When most people say signal strength, however, they are referring to that below-zero RX value that represents the absolute magnitude of "signal" (be it real signal or just noise within the carrier band) your phone is paying attention to. In this case, greater "signal strength" generally requires more battery power, as your phone is grabbing more signal from the airwaves and will require more power to filter and sort through it to find the actual tower signal.

So basically, it can go both ways: a radio may have algorithms that enable it to zero in on the tower signal more efficiently, essentially giving you better "signal strength" (actually signal-to-noise ratio) and saving battery power. At the same time, one radio may be more "agressive" than another, running more filtering and amplification to locate a tower signal in more difficult situations; in this case, greater "signal strength" requires more battery power.

The bars you see on your phone are inversely proportional to the amount of amplification the phone is using to locate the tower signal; greater amplification = less bars and less amplification = more bars. Therefore, if you see more bars with a particular radio, that radio is saving you battery power. It may not be as effective as another radio, however, at keeping your calls connected when you drive through tough no-bar or one-bar spots.

At least I think that's how it works.
__________________
HTC Evo 4G
DamageControl 3.5
netarchy 4.03
Reply With Quote
This post has been thanked 1 times.
  #542 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2009, 11:48 AM
kmacsouris's Avatar
N00b
Offline
Pocket PC: HTC Touch Pro
Carrier: Bell Mobility
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 37
Reputation: 0
kmacsouris is a n00b
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmacsouris View Post
Hi I have a question concerning the radio roms posted. I have tried them all and the one that seems to work the best is the Telus rom 1.04.5 that is posted. These are the readings I am getting and I never, ever have full bars. I don't know if it is the rom I am using or what but I would like some input.

Cell: HTC Touch Pro
Carrier: Aliant/Bell Mobility (located in Atlantic Canada)
Rom: MightRom 6
Radio Rom: Telus 1.04.05
Field Test Results:
Rx Power -81 dbm (This goes as high as -92 dbm)
Rx Ec/Io 14 dbm
Rx FER 0.00

Thanks!
I went through and tried various roms for WM 6.5 and they all did the same thing with regards to the signal bars.

I ended up putting MightyMike 4 rom on my phone and it works great. I don't know what it is with the WM 6.5 but WM 6.1 works fine.
__________________
HTC Touch Pro
Bell Mobility
MightyMike 4 rom with Telus 1.04.05v
Reply With Quote
  #543 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2009, 07:03 PM
SoCalSpecialist's Avatar
Regular 'Geeker
Offline
Pocket PC: Droid & WinMo Devices - Best Of Both Worlds!
Carrier: VZW - Got Bars?
Location: San Diego
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 396
Reputation: 330
SoCalSpecialist is becoming a PPCGeeks regularSoCalSpecialist is becoming a PPCGeeks regularSoCalSpecialist is becoming a PPCGeeks regularSoCalSpecialist is becoming a PPCGeeks regular
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

i just loaded the newest VZW radio, thanks for the upload
..lets see how it does for my batt signal and so on.
Reply With Quote
  #544 (permalink)  
Old 10-09-2009, 02:26 PM
Maestro Nobones's Avatar
Lurker
Offline
Pocket PC: touch pro
Carrier: verizon
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 7
Reputation: 5
Maestro Nobones is a n00b
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

First post should probably be edited to add the debug code fix cab, I had to search the thread to find it to make it work on my VZW TP with mightyrom 6.

I will say it seems the shipped VZW radio works best from my house in austin, tx. I will experiment with signal strength at different places around town.

thanks for this thread!
Reply With Quote
  #545 (permalink)  
Old 10-09-2009, 02:28 PM
chronster's Avatar
i like turtles
Offline
Pocket PC: Fascinate (Galaxy S)
Carrier: Verizon
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,102
Reputation: 2365
chronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIPchronster is a VIP
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by kmacsouris View Post
I went through and tried various roms for WM 6.5 and they all did the same thing with regards to the signal bars.

I ended up putting MightyMike 4 rom on my phone and it works great. I don't know what it is with the WM 6.5 but WM 6.1 works fine.
same here. went to 4.16 and oops, THERE's my service! Wondered where it went with 6.5 lol
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #546 (permalink)  
Old 10-11-2009, 03:26 PM
christian.a's Avatar
Regular 'Geeker
Offline
Pocket PC: HTC Touch Pro 2
Carrier: Sprint
Location: Bay Area
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 318
Reputation: 395
christian.a is becoming a PPCGeeks regularchristian.a is becoming a PPCGeeks regularchristian.a is becoming a PPCGeeks regularchristian.a is becoming a PPCGeeks regular
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Cool Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by strra View Post
someone asked this before but (to be quite honest) i don't know the release dates of them all.
however, i don't think that the release date really matters because the software you flash changes how the hardware radio in your phone acts. it doesn't fix or add anything that a previous radio didn't have... (someone could get better results in their area with the oldest radio than with the newest)

I completely agree. The names and versions of these radios are not region or carrier specific. In my instance, I use Telus 1.04.05V in the bay area (Northern California) on the Sprint carrier. There's a post somewhere in PPCGEEKS that poeple have listed the radios they've used in the their areas but I can't seem to find it in the threads anymore.

I think i went through 7 radios in 7 weeks before sticking to the TELUS ( I was getting tired of tracking results ) You just have to be patient...
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #547 (permalink)  
Old 10-15-2009, 07:25 AM
jacker's Avatar
PPCGeeks Regular
Offline
Pocket PC: Use to be TP , now its E-V-O
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 152
Reputation: 100
jacker is keeping up the good workjacker is keeping up the good work
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to jacker
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

I'm looking for 1.14.25.05 that NRG recommends to use for his latest rom. Anyone know where I can get it or am just being stupid and it comes with his rom?
Reply With Quote
  #548 (permalink)  
Old 10-15-2009, 07:27 AM
razorloves's Avatar
VIP Member
Offline
Pocket PC: Droid X
Carrier: Verizon
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,465
Reputation: 10803
razorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation level
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Send a message via Yahoo to razorloves
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by jacker View Post
I'm looking for 1.14.25.05 that NRG recommends to use for his latest rom. Anyone know where I can get it or am just being stupid and it comes with his rom?
that's a gsm radio. not for your phone. the only ones available for your phone are in the first post of this thread
Reply With Quote
  #549 (permalink)  
Old 10-15-2009, 07:40 AM
jacker's Avatar
PPCGeeks Regular
Offline
Pocket PC: Use to be TP , now its E-V-O
Carrier: Sprint
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 152
Reputation: 100
jacker is keeping up the good workjacker is keeping up the good work
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to jacker
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

Yeah , scrolling further down it redirects me to here for cdma. Anyways , the last on for sprint , is the latest I take it , right?
Reply With Quote
  #550 (permalink)  
Old 10-15-2009, 07:47 AM
razorloves's Avatar
VIP Member
Offline
Pocket PC: Droid X
Carrier: Verizon
Location: Florida
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 5,465
Reputation: 10803
razorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation levelrazorloves can't get a higher reputation level
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Send a message via Yahoo to razorloves
Re: [AUG 4] *12 Radios Available* Updated Touch Pro CDMA Radio Archive Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by jacker View Post
Yeah , scrolling further down it redirects me to here for cdma. Anyways , the last on for sprint , is the latest I take it , right?
Yes, but you can use any of the radios in the first post. they are not carrier specific. there's also good info in the faq's below the radio download links, if you haven't already read it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

  PPCGeeks > Windows Mobile > WM HTC Devices > HTC Touch Pro > CDMA TP Development


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
©2012 - PPCGeeks.com