[Oct 30] JUICY ROM 2.7 [CE OS 5.2.19965 Build 22222]

[Devileyezz]

Wow, critique is sometimes acceptable but complaining is a whole new ball game. If anyone wants to see a bunch of complainers/whiners for a product they got for free, I know where to go. Juicy's thread.

Guys, seriously, if I was Juicy, I'd have my fists through the monitor and/or say "F*CK you people!" and leave. For good. No thanks to Juicy at all for releasing version after version, but definitely lots of lines after lines to complain how this doesn't work and how that should have worked. I understand you feel like complaining/making it known that something doesn't work, but atleast do it properly, like try to help or something. If you can't work with it, simply drop it for that period, use another ROM. Remember, every chef uses their own ROM. So almost 9 out of 10 bugs they WILL come across. No one needs to mention it. It gets irritating when one after another comes in to simply say how something is not working.

I'm saddened by this state of affairs. Ugh!

[Juicy47]

Originally Posted by Devileyezz

Wow, critique is sometimes acceptable but complaining is a whole new ball game. If anyone wants to see a bunch of complainers/whiners for a product they got for free, I know where to go. Juicy's thread.

Guys, seriously, if I was Juicy, I'd have my fists through the monitor and/or say "F*CK you people!" and leave. For good. No thanks to Juicy at all for releasing version after version, but definitely lots of lines after lines to complain how this doesn't work and how that should have worked. I understand you feel like complaining/making it known that something doesn't work, but atleast do it properly, like try to help or something. If you can't work with it, simply drop it for that period, use another ROM. Remember, every chef uses their own ROM. So almost 9 out of 10 bugs they WILL come across. No one needs to mention it. It gets irritating when one after another comes in to simply say how something is not working.

I'm saddened by this state of affairs. Ugh!

The only post that got me upset was that I should have created a proper beta program lol

I cant forecast compatability with 3rd party apps or for other carriers, if it doesnt work report it. I will try and fix it. Once again this is all for free, so please manage your expectations. I am not your personal tech support, but do appreciate that the MAJORITY of users have been very friendly and helpful throughout my stay at PPCG

[nttdemented]

Originally Posted by Juicy47

The only post that got me upset was that I should have created a proper beta program lol

I cant forecast compatability with 3rd party apps or for other carriers, if it doesnt work report it. I will try and fix it. Once again this is all for free, so please manage your expectations. I am not your personal tech support, but do appreciate that the MAJORITY of users have been very friendly and helpful throughout my stay at PPCG

Hey Juicy I'm an IT manager and working on my PPC has become sort of a hobby as well (I've only had a PPC for about a month). If you need someone to help you out like Juggs does I'm more than willing to get deeper into the ropes of cooking ROMs and helping out. Add me up to msn!

[zimberto]

I don't see much complaining here. I see people reporting issues and making suggestions. I think we all realize that this is the bleeding edge and it's a community effort..

[matthew23]

Originally Posted by Juicy47

The only post that got me upset was that I should have created a proper beta program lol

I cant forecast compatability with 3rd party apps or for other carriers, if it doesnt work report it. I will try and fix it. Once again this is all for free, so please manage your expectations. I am not your personal tech support, but do appreciate that the MAJORITY of users have been very friendly and helpful throughout my stay at PPCG

Juicy - I think you are doing a great job. Although some people might not say it because all they do it complain, we do appreciate your hard work and everything you do for the community.

Some people have nothing better to do than *****.

[makkonen]

So, 2.6 is the first Juicy ROM I've installed, and it sounds like the landscape issues are across the board. I don't bother with landscape too much, except occasionally for reading a long web page in Opera. And it's been sorta flaky. Specifically, the redraw delay when you scroll past the portion of the screen that's been pre-rendered, is really slow. 5-10 seconds of staring at the checkerboard pattern before the data fills in. (This happens more clearly when I'm zoomed in, and significantly more in landscape mode, as far as I've noticed.) Otherwise, everything's much slimmer and peppier than the stock rom, but that one part of opera is not great in portrait, and almost unusable in landscape.

Anyone else noticed anything like this? Or am I just going crazy?

And, just to be clear, this is criticism, not complaint. A million thanks, Juicy, for putting all your hard work into this... and for keeping a smile on while we all yap at you for fixes.

[Drybonz]

Originally Posted by Devileyezz

Wow, critique is sometimes acceptable but complaining is a whole new ball game. If anyone wants to see a bunch of complainers/whiners for a product they got for free, I know where to go. Juicy's thread.

Guys, seriously, if I was Juicy, I'd have my fists through the monitor and/or say "F*CK you people!" and leave. For good. No thanks to Juicy at all for releasing version after version, but definitely lots of lines after lines to complain how this doesn't work and how that should have worked. I understand you feel like complaining/making it known that something doesn't work, but atleast do it properly, like try to help or something. If you can't work with it, simply drop it for that period, use another ROM. Remember, every chef uses their own ROM. So almost 9 out of 10 bugs they WILL come across. No one needs to mention it. It gets irritating when one after another comes in to simply say how something is not working.

I'm saddened by this state of affairs. Ugh!

I feel kinda bad for reporting some bugs now. My intent was not to sound like I was complaining. I just thought it was contributing to the development from an end user perspective.

It's not surprising at all that there were a few bugs with 2.6, it was a huge and ambitious release. It would be more surprising if there weren't a few bugs.

I hope that the massive amounts of praise for his work stick with Juicy more than the occaisional complaint or bug report.

[sheeno]

Originally Posted by Drybonz

I feel kinda bad for reporting some bugs now. My intent was not to sound like I was complaining. I just thought it was contributing to the development from an end user perspective.

It's not surprising at all that there were a few bugs with 2.6, it was a huge and ambitious release. It would be more surprising if there weren't a few bugs.

I hope that the massive amounts of praise for his work stick with Juicy more than the occaisional complaint or bug report.

I don't think you have done anything wrong by explaining bugs you have encountered or will do anything wrong in continuing to do so. It is more the people that come in and complain about teal bars when they can look 1 page, 2 pages, 3 pages, 4 pages back and find the same post in every one of them including a reference to the fix. I figure if Juicy can devote hours making a free rom, people can spend 10 minutes to look through the last 20 pages and figure out if something has been discussed.

Originally Posted by oneandsix

...I figured I'd ask people for their experiences with it or if they had any suggestions until I found out it's GSM. Sorry man.

No need to say sorry, just thought that your post could get very insulting and that some people could take major offense to it. You don't want to create an environment where people start saying who's 'better' and alienate others who may be doing great work.

[Juicy47]

Originally Posted by sheeno

I don't think you have done anything wrong by explaining bugs you have encountered or will do anything wrong in continuing to do so.

+1 I need to get info on all the bugs, keep 'em coming.... there is just no use in redundant reports of the same bug.

[sdafasdlkfj]

Is everyone off their knees yet?

Juicy knows how great of a job he is doing and he doesn't need consoling every time a few bugs pop up. It's not like he is a crying toddler that needs reassurance of how great he really is. Bugs are an inevitable part of ROM development.

These "Juicy I love you with all of my heart, and I'll be a fanboi 4 lyfe" posts are getting redundant.