How To: Use another carriers HTC on VZW

[Falcon4]

Woo. Interesting. Okay, switched ESN back, called *228 option 3, and I got a representative (oops!) who wanted me to call back on a different phone so they could let me take out my battery and do a bunch of other stuff. I said I could probably do it online easier, thankyou for your help, and formality. Then I went online and activated it like I did the last time. Went flawlessly.

Then I tried a data connection again... entered (phone)@vzw3g.com as the UserID and vzw as the password, and hit Connect. For the first time, I didn't get a PCS Vision error... I got a modem error from Windows! Previously, the error first came up at the bottom as a notification (PCS Vision error), then a popup at the top. This time it tried dialing once, then tried dialing again, then said "No modem at above number. To check your connection settings...". Very odd indeed.

Do you know of a direct number at Verizon I should try calling for that DMU Reset? And it begs the question, you think I could convince them to (if at all possible) switch on VCast for this line again, given the "I already hate Verizon..." circumstances? :P

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Originally Posted by Falcon4

Woo. Interesting. Okay, switched ESN back, called *228 option 3, and I got a representative (oops!) who wanted me to call back on a different phone so they could let me take out my battery and do a bunch of other stuff. I said I could probably do it online easier, thankyou for your help, and formality. Then I went online and activated it like I did the last time. Went flawlessly.

Then I tried a data connection again... entered (phone)@vzw3g.com as the UserID and vzw as the password, and hit Connect. For the first time, I didn't get a PCS Vision error... I got a modem error from Windows! Previously, the error first came up at the bottom as a notification (PCS Vision error), then a popup at the top. This time it tried dialing once, then tried dialing again, then said "No modem at above number. To check your connection settings...". Very odd indeed.

Do you know of a direct number at Verizon I should try calling for that DMU Reset? And it begs the question, you think I could convince them to (if at all possible) switch on VCast for this line again, given the "I already hate Verizon..." circumstances? :P

Good modem error usually means your keys are missing/bad or the public key is missing on a convert or both.

It is not possbile to add Vcast to a PDA the system will not allow it as it populates feature based off the device model. Our tech cannot add it either. Back end data features work very differently on a pda than a dumbphone such as your old vx8300. Call the regular 1-800 number on your statement to get transferred to tech support. I wont list any of our internal numbers or extensions.

[Falcon4]

... Crappo. Well in that case there's really no use in even setting up data on this darn thing...

$0.015/KB or approx. $15/MB.

"wat" is the only thing I can say to that... even 1 cent per KB is way overpriced. >.<

So I guess that answers the question of why data wasn't working... although I don't quite "get" why the PDA references Sprint when I had the VX8300's ESN on it, it seems to be working much better now at least for those that like getting financially raped by Verizon's data packages. =\

(Seriously, either 1.5c per KB or 45 bucks a month? Man I knew I was getting a good deal with VCast but I didn't think it was that good...)

I guess I'll take further questions to PM as it doesn't really relate to this thread anymore. Thanks!

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There is an unlimited $29.99 email & web for smartphone

[Falcon4]

Originally Posted by drellisdee

There is an unlimited $29.99 email & web for smartphone

Yeeeah, that's definitely a lot more manageable. I'm on the phone with the rep now, setting that up. He reset the DMU key and still no help, said that other thing (setting it to ??-?? and back?) isn't possible because they don't even have that network/option anymore. =\

He's working silently in the background

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Originally Posted by Falcon4

Yeeeah, that's definitely a lot more manageable. I'm on the phone with the rep now, setting that up. He reset the DMU key and still no help, said that other thing (setting it to ??-?? and back?) isn't possible because they don't even have that network/option anymore. =\

He's working silently in the background

IS-95 & back yes it isn't used anymore but option is still there it in effect drops data profile completely then will re push keys back to you. Exactly what rom are you using the shipped.exe or what?

[Falcon4]

Augh... nope, no such luck. The guy did all sorts of stuff and in the end I got no further than I started.

He reset everything (set everything back to defaults as he said) and couldn't get me the $29 plan because my phone "doesn't support it" (like VCast). Verified the DUN settings, soft reset a few times, and the last available option was to hard reset the phone, which I was like, euh, yeah... uh... I think I'll just live with it. Wanted to see if he knew anything about EPST settings, but at that point he was like, well, that's not something we support... it's like hacking the phone and we have no idea what settings could get messed up like that. So, facepalm.

However, the first time I tried connecting after the second soft-reset (he changed something else), the first connection attempt took significantly longer than usual. Not sure if that's significant or anything, but it's definitely something different...

I really think it has something to do with the phone's embedded file system. Something in there is corrupted and I have no way of fixing it because nobody seems to have ever posted a dump of their XV6700's non-indentifying EFS files. Maybe I should try changing "11111111" back to "VZW__001" in nvm_htc? Or does that file even matter?

I guess at any rate, "facepalm", since I can't even get data service on this thing to begin with. It's good to have a working, stable PPC back, but I'm sure the novelty of having an all-in-one device versus two devices that can do "anything" (hey, the VX8300 is a _very_ capable and flexible communications device - it can cancel accidental texts unlike the Apache! LOL).

I'm just coming to realize how off-topic I've gotten this... lol. But thanks for the help none the less

EDIT: I'm using this ROM, with the radio, ExtRom, and OS all flashed in one go. I aborted the customization and applied most of the CABs manually without the restrictive CABs installed.

[Getitnowmarketing]

Originally Posted by Falcon4

Augh... nope, no such luck. The guy did all sorts of stuff and in the end I got no further than I started.

He reset everything (set everything back to defaults as he said) and couldn't get me the $29 plan because my phone "doesn't support it" (like VCast). Verified the DUN settings, soft reset a few times, and the last available option was to hard reset the phone, which I was like, euh, yeah... uh... I think I'll just live with it. Wanted to see if he knew anything about EPST settings, but at that point he was like, well, that's not something we support... it's like hacking the phone and we have no idea what settings could get messed up like that. So, facepalm.

However, the first time I tried connecting after the second soft-reset (he changed something else), the first connection attempt took significantly longer than usual. Not sure if that's significant or anything, but it's definitely something different...

I really think it has something to do with the phone's embedded file system. Something in there is corrupted and I have no way of fixing it because nobody seems to have ever posted a dump of their XV6700's non-indentifying EFS files. Maybe I should try changing "11111111" back to "VZW__001" in nvm_htc? Or does that file even matter?

I guess at any rate, "facepalm", since I can't even get data service on this thing to begin with. It's good to have a working, stable PPC back, but I'm sure the novelty of having an all-in-one device versus two devices that can do "anything" (hey, the VX8300 is a _very_ capable and flexible communications device - it can cancel accidental texts unlike the Apache! LOL).

I'm just coming to realize how off-topic I've gotten this... lol. But thanks for the help none the less

EDIT: I'm using this ROM, with the radio, ExtRom, and OS all flashed in one go. I aborted the customization and applied most of the CABs manually without the restrictive CABs installed.

Not sure I've never had one do that in many that I've done. The CID in nvm_htc is only for the carrier id check against carrier id of a rom you would flash to it.

[turntablez]

Originally Posted by drellisdee

UPDATE: Since you can now do a self esn provision via *228 option 3 this will let you add the esn/meid on which will display in the system as "unknown" thus not requiring a data plan on touch pro. This obsoletes the need to call tech support for a DMD request.

1) check your esn is it higher than 05401114111 call customer service at 800-922-0204 and ask them to check if it can be activated also ask them to check it in the DMD esn database. If lower read below (6700 only this is just a rough esn range. 6800 and 6900's from other carriers 100% of the time have to be added in)

Verizon does have a lower esn range if the 6700's esn falls below 05401114111 it is not in verizons esn database. Tech support will have to manually add it which is rather difficult to do. It requires persistence and catching the right knowledgeable tech in the right mood pretty much. There is a way for auth agents to force a foreign esn in using a glitch in the system (THIS LOOPHOLE WAS CLOSED IN THE 8/10 EROES PATCH)but this can only be done on a brand new activation (cannot do on esn swaps) but if you ever change phones the phone will have to be added into the esn database by a tech to use it again. However, the latter method would give you a pretty valid arguement to get it added in as they can see that you were using that esn prior on the network and tell them it was changed in error. **Always say you have an alltel phone for greatest chance of success**

***Update*** For those having trouble getting an esn loaded read this post. Please do not pm me asking for help getting your esn added as I have been bombarded with requests use form here if calls to tech support are unsuccessful http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24855

2) Break that spc code. If you have altell disregard as their spc code is 000000 along with vzw.

Put your phone in dm mode its ##diag talk or ##diag# talk on most phones (carrier dependant search the boards here). Press start (left soft key) and plug in usb cord to both phone and pc if you have vista the drivers will auto install. If you have xp you will need to download the diagnostics drivers attached in this post and manually direct the install to where they were downloaded in your pc.

Place your diagnostic port for the phone on com 2 and run the se47 program it will set the spc to all 0's in less than 2 seconds. Press stop and disconnect phone from usb.
*edit se47 will only work on a 6700 not 6800 or 6900 use getspc and qpst to set spc to all 0's
Method here for non sprint 6800's and 6900's that getspc won't work with http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.p...&postcount=126

3) *6700 only* supercid phone's bootloader so any carriers rom will take (not necessary if using no id ruu and helmi's wm6.1 with a bootloader 1.00, 1.02, or 2.02 or with the stock no bootloader rom linked in step 4 **6800 & 6900 supercid method http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...light=supercid this is not needed just for info only as you can just use the olipro or imcokeman unlockers**

You will need bitpim (free program http://bitpim.sourceforge.net/ ) and qpst (dont ask for a link. Hint join mobilefiles.com)

Place the phone in dm mode again ##diag talk or your carriers version of it. Load bitpim and select other cdma phone on port 2 and save the nvm_htc file to desktop. Load xvi32 (hex editor) and change the carrier wording ie. VZW__001 or your carrier's wording (will be 8 spaces) to "11111111" (without quotes) and save file. Use qpst and overwrite the nvm_htc with the supercid nvm_htc file.

4) Create a custom rom using helmi's6.1 search here and read up and make sure to pick verizon in carrier spots (assuming phone is superCID unlocked w/ bootloader 1.04, 2.04 & 2.05 or using NoId RUU with bootloader 2.02, 1.00, & 1.02). If you would like a stock vzw WM5 rom this is a link here to one here that will not change your bootloader version and will work on all bootloaders http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread..._aku3_official

Flash rom I recommend using radio 1.43 on verizon so if you go with a helmi 6.1 search for that radio version or pull it from the stock rom link above.

5) Upload prl via ##prl and load off memory card or use active sync to add it to my docs then do ##prl to load it. After prl load dial a *228 option 1 after the esn change has been done on your account. Do a ##eri to update eri the same way as prl update from memory card or active sync on phone then load it off of phone from ##eri. PRL & ERI are attached to bottom of post. FYI the ERI will not load on most phones it has loaded about 10% of the time for me on 6700's all midwest wireless and 1 of 4 Qwest ones and never on a 6800 or 6900.


5) edit data settings to vzw dial ##778 and enter your new msl of 000000

MIP Profile
Number of profiles: 6
Active user profile index: 0
MIP_MODE: Mobile IP Prefered
MIP Reg Retries: 2
MIP Reg Retry: 1750 ms
MIP Pre-Reg Timeout: 0
Mobile Node-HA: Enable
Send A Reg: Disable
Dormant Handoff Opt: Enable

MIP Default Profile
Enable Profile: Enable
NAI: mynumber@vzw3g.com (MDN@vzw3g.com)
DUN NAI: (if entry is there enter MDN@vzw3g.com so you can tether without a tethering package or MDN@dun.vzw3g.com if you want paid tethering))
MN HA SPI Set: Enable
MN HA SPI Value: 12C
MN AAA SPI Set: Enable
MN AAA SPI Value: 0 (requires a "2" here for 6800 and 6900)
Reverse Tunneling: Enable
Home Address: 0.0.0.0
HA Shared Secret: (erase whatever entry is here leave blank)
AAA Shared Secret: (erase whatever entry is here leave blank)
Primary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
Secondary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
DMU Pub Key: 10
MN Authenticator: 0

6) Upload a dmu key

Put phone in dm mode ##diag talk and load bitpim or qpst and load a vzw dmu key into the dmu folder on the phone. **UPDATE** added a public dmu key a few post down (post #4) so u guys that don't have any existing vzw phones can get on the network.** Some 6800's you can only do this with qpst. Highlight the dmu folder and right click and pick add new file and browse to where you saved the 10.key on your pc then load it via qpst or bitpim to phone.

7) when you attempt a internet connection it will write your shared secret keys and if you followed this correctly data should be working. This is only for a non- VZW phone that has never been in use on VZW with working data. If it has it already has the vzw dmu key it needs a dmu reset if data fails assuming the connection profile is correct and data is active on the account.

THESE DATA SETTINGS WILL WORK ON OTHER CARRIERS 6800's and 6900's IF YOU CAN GET A TECH TO LOAD THE ESN OR WAIT FOR OPEN NETWORK LATER ON THIS YEAR. YOU STILL HAVE TO LOAD A VZW DMU KEY AS WELL. Open network will provide no tech support beyond voice and sms for non-native vzw phones. I have switched several sprint 6800's and 6900's over this method works perfectly with full data just use the correct unlockers and roms.

PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME ABOUT CLONING ESN'S AS THIS IS ILLEGAL AND IS NOT NEEDED TO GET YOUR PHONE ON VERIZON JUST USE THE FORM LINKED ABOVE IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THE ESN IN. DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.

These are some pictures of a small fraction of the phones I've converted and I've been known to sell a spare or two to a friend who needed a vzw phone. My wife is getting tired of my pocket pc collection and used an apache the other day for a paperweight

Two sprint 6900's one was TMZ's old phone.


Screen Capture of Sprint 6900 above logged into myaccount to show data 100% working on VZW


Sprint Mogul With Sprint Logo Removed Active on VZW


Many Apache's and Harrier's three VZW native phones the rest showing old carrier badge

Hi,

I'm not trying to steal the thread or anything....but I have a question as if there is a way to do this the other way around.... vzw to sprint??? Could you explain what the settings would be for that? Anyone? Thanks in advance!

TJ

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Possibly but will sprint allow a foreign esn from another carrier?