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Old 09-20-2010, 05:27 PM
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

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Uhm... I think you're confused. RAM is Random Access Memory - as in volatile, and is wiped every time you reboot - same goes for your computer.

ROM is what we're talking about, which typically means Read Only Memory - but these chips are capable of being flashed... That is what I'm talking about with full NAND support... basically you'd flash Android like any WinMo ROM, and it would actually flash to the NAND. The current incarnation still depends on your SD card.

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Correct, that's what I meant. There is RAM which (in WinMo's case it's used when you flash a ROM (not the ROM memory but the ROM that you flash to the Flash memory (or is it ROM?) LOL) What I am trying to ask is...if we don't flash a WM_ROM it will not occupy RAM (or memory) therefore allowing more RAM for the OS, and if we start installing software, (I THINK) this memory will start decreasing, correct? Therefore if we install to /SDCARD or even the whole OS keep running it from the SDCARD we will have all this free memory for the OS...correct?
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Old 09-20-2010, 02:29 PM
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

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im glad you guys are done with this useless convo..
Sorry ACL. Got bored late at night

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That's awesome news. I would love a NAND booter for SD Android, and the "full NAND" will it install on the RAM memory or will the OS have full memory and not run low on memory when you install more apps to the OS?
You are already booting off NAND, but the OS files are still located on the microSD card. What they are working on is moving the OS onto NAND as well. As far as RAM goes, are you saying you are running out of storage space for apps in Android, or are you running out of actual RAM.

Also, ACL, is there anything we can do to help with NAND development?

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Old 09-20-2010, 02:52 PM
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

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Also, ACL, is there anything we can do to help with NAND development? Are you guys working on the NAND MTD driver, or are you working on the filing system now?
As in pure NAND?, im not working on anything relating to that. Wozz is the pioneer and probably the most experienced in that area so i'll leave it up to him to champion that area of the development.

Do you know how to compile the kernel ? it would be great if more people were able to compile it and test it. I'm still trying to finalize the battery changes so we have more accurate readings. After that i'll probably venture into the panel light staying on issue. Thats killing power like no other so it needs to be looked into.

I may need to go back to wince to look into the 3d issue. Unless someone wants to start dumping memory off haret .. so much to do ..
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:51 PM
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

It has nothing to do with WinMo I was using it as comparison. I thought we had RAM, FLASH and SDCARD...

Ok, so the NAND is our harddrive, which holds the ANDROID (os) and installed programs.

The ANDROID and installed programs load into RAM from the NAND (harddrive)

What I don't understand is when we flash the phone with a small ROM on NAND why does our available RAM increase in ANDROID? Do we "partition" these 2 different sections of memory?
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

Holy f*ck...
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

I was wondering if someone could help me out here, Im trying to flash back to winmo rom via sd. I made sure the partition was fat32, I renamed the nbh to "RHODIMG.NBH" and start up the bootloader by holding vol down and power. Everytime I do this I get this very quick message that says "no image found", i am using 1.00.Olinex (H?)spl. Can someone help me in the right direction?

edit: Also, the reason I'm posting this here is because I tried the nbh from here for RHOD400.

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Old 09-23-2010, 11:39 AM
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

I'm available for testing... Any specific build?
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

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I'm available for testing... Any specific build?
This thread is for NAND testing... so that's the build they would be working with. & I think Wozz will update the first post when there's any updates, I think he's still stuck tryin to get the full NAND to work. It seems he's taken the partial NAND as far as it can/needs to go...
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

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This thread is for NAND testing... so that's the build they would be working with. & I think Wozz will update the first post when there's any updates, I think he's still stuck tryin to get the full NAND to work. It seems he's taken the partial NAND as far as it can/needs to go...
Wozz has been crazy busy and this is why i wanted natemcnutty to post his build. I'm not sure if what we have on the first post is the latest. lol.. see this is another reason why we need a page dedicated to the builds ..
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Re: NAND boot testing. Test 5: SOUND!!!!/Test 7: Single NBH/Serialno/tilt2 fix

You should create a new one then. I can try to build the kernel following the commands nate was using.

I am not anywhere near what I would call a programmer.. but I do I have a linux comp sittin there, awaiting whatever confusing git command I can throw at it. I would appreciate the knowledge gained from it anyways.

What would be the first step? as in, what do I need to tell git to retrieve?
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