Why sound isn't working on the TP2. - Page 13

daddymikey1975 · #**121** (**permalink**) 07-06-2010, 02:55 PM

I do know that there IS one dev in particular working on sound alone (along w/ offering his 2 cents to answer questions and help the other devs when they're stuck.) and even in the chat logs the guy working on sound doesn't answer too many questions when he's asked how the sound is coming so he's being hush hush most likely to not incite a panic lol

The reason we don't hear much from the other devs is (my opinion here) is that here on PPCGeeks there may be too many haters. Too many ppl complaining that "this doesn't work" "that doesn't work" etc.

again, that's just my opinion.

I DO know that [ACL] is working on 3D graphics rendering so he IS on the Dev team (just not working on sound)

There were some interesting and welcoming achievements made this weekend on other fronts as well FWIW

Hopefully this helps

**[ACL]** · #**122** (**permalink**) 07-06-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmsohc22

Has anyone from the actual Android Development team chimed in on this at all..?? I'm sure they'd be able to lend a hand in decompiling, coding, etc... Although I still don't see this ever making it to 100%, it would be cool to get some more knowledgeable individuals involved, who actually know what files do what, and most importantly enough most of the Android dev's were most likely WinMo dev's at one point so they'd specifically know what to change and what not..

lol. Actually the knowledge of winmo is small from what i can tell. Most of the devs need to learn wince to reverse engineer everything in linux.

I'm involved in trying to get 3d to work. Phh is also helping and recently we have been able to get some ideas from Cotulla (hd2 kernel guru). I'm not working on sound or anything else.

Take a look at my open gl post if you want to know more on that issue.

variance · #**123** (**permalink**) 07-06-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by daddymikey1975

I do know that there IS one dev in particular working on sound alone (along w/ offering his 2 cents to answer questions and help the other devs when they're stuck.) and even in the chat logs the guy working on sound doesn't answer too many questions when he's asked how the sound is coming so he's being hush hush most likely to not incite a panic lol

The reason we don't hear much from the other devs is (my opinion here) is that here on PPCGeeks there may be too many haters. Too many ppl complaining that "this doesn't work" "that doesn't work" etc.

again, that's just my opinion.

I DO know that [ACL] is working on 3D graphics rendering so he IS on the Dev team (just not working on sound)

There were some interesting and welcoming achievements made this weekend on other fronts as well FWIW

Hopefully this helps

There is one other active dev doing sound? fantastic. if they get results before this slow outsourcing thing does I'd like to entice him with offering him the bounty on completion. Doesn't look like there's gonna be a android handset with a sliding keyboard/tilting screen anytime in the near future... the Samsung Epic 4g... looks like it might be close (no tilt) but if it's keyboard is like the moment's. (pure crap) i'm gonna have to wait for HTC or stick to my rhodium

variance · #**124** (**permalink**) 07-06-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by yoyo81

It is certainly possible to get a C/C++ implementation out of ASM for a particular architecture. Not sure if it would be prohibitively expensive (975 min order, )or whether the results would be any clearer/more understandable than ASM.

I'm with ACL on the need to do a trace. Didn't someone say they were willing to JTAG their TP2 and trace the runs? That might be helpful. What we need is a friend on the inside in HTC's dev group.

See:
http://www.mpsinc.com/assembly.html
For pricing info:
http://www.mpsinc.com/translation.html

Disclaimer: I do not work for this company, nor do i have any dealings with this company. They just came up first on a google search for ASM -> C cross compilers.

the Guy who had his TP2 tore apart for jtagging is in the xda-dev rhodium android developer opengl thread. he hasn't given us a update for several weeks. i'd surmise he's busy.

**[ACL]** · #**125** (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 01:09 AM

jtag dood vanished .. no word..

Anyways the hd2 guys have sound working. So lets hope more ideas flow our way. I know what everyone is gonna ask, can we use their work? ..No the hd2 is a different beast and hopefully Cotulla can help us dissect the sound issue like they did for the hd2.

daddymikey1975 · #**126** (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by [ACL]

jtag dood vanished .. no word..

Anyways the hd2 guys have sound working. So lets hope more ideas flow our way. I know what everyone is gonna ask, can we use their work? ..No the hd2 is a different beast and hopefully Cotulla can help us dissect the sound issue like they did for the hd2.

I was gonna send you a PM and ask this exact question

I saw that Cotulla was able to get sound working and knew that he was working on the Leo but was wondering how similar the Leo is to the Rhod. hehehe..

On a side note, how many devs are working on a build/port for the Rhod ?

**[ACL]** · #**127** (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by daddymikey1975

I was gonna send you a PM and ask this exact question

I saw that Cotulla was able to get sound working and knew that he was working on the Leo but was wondering how similar the Leo is to the Rhod. hehehe..

On a side note, how many devs are working on a build/port for the Rhod ?

Not as many as the Hd2 team thats for sure. But most of those guys help in all devices. May need to buy cotulla a rhod and let him go crazy ..lol.

sd73ta · #**128** (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by [ACL]

May need to buy cotulla a rhod and let him go crazy ..lol.

When they asked for donations to get Da'G a HD2 on xda for WP7 it took just over a day to get enough for a JTAG and a HD2. So if you decide to do that and have asked Cotulla would you post here and there?

daddymikey1975 · #**129** (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by [ACL]

Not as many as the Hd2 team thats for sure. But most of those guys help in all devices. May need to buy cotulla a rhod and let him go crazy ..lol.

I MIGHT be able to talk my brother into letting Cotulla borrow his.

He's gonna get the droid X when it comes out and he said his TP2 (vzw) was gonna sit in a drawer.

I wouldn't mind taking up donations to collect some $ to pay my brother for the phone instead of asking him if Cotulla can borrow it. (I'd pay for shipping LOL)

(I'll talk to my brother and see what his thoughts are)

What are you guys' thoughts/opinions on donating a bit of $ to 'purchase' my brother's device to donate to Cotulla/the dev team ??

**Reefermattness** · #**130** (**permalink**) 07-07-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by daddymikey1975

I MIGHT be able to talk my brother into letting Cotulla borrow his.

He's gonna get the droid X when it comes out and he said his TP2 (vzw) was gonna sit in a drawer.

I wouldn't mind taking up donations to collect some $ to pay my brother for the phone instead of asking him if Cotulla can borrow it. (I'd pay for shipping LOL)

(I'll talk to my brother and see what his thoughts are)

What are you guys' thoughts/opinions on donating a bit of $ to 'purchase' my brother's device to donate to Cotulla/the dev team ??

The TP2 Phh uses used to actually be mine.

Its not hard to get a dev a phone, just gotta be creative and get a couple willing to help!