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butler360 10-22-2010 05:46 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 1979464)
Seriously?!? Dude... at least read what's going on before posting. Either a) you hack up the rootfs or b) keep your phone back - don't update. I even mentioned this on this page!!
Yes I saw those, I was hoping for something a bit more feasible.

Ah, whatever, I give up. :violent2:

arrrghhh 10-22-2010 05:53 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by butler360 (Post 1979470)
Yes I saw those, I was hoping for something a bit more feasible.

Ah, whatever, I give up. :violent2:
What do you want? A bit more feasible? Oy ve, I'm not sure I can keep helping out around here, this is getting out of hand.

Quote:
Originally Posted by subprime (Post 1979468)
Yes. Are you using usb headphones when you boot into android or are you using headphones plugged into the 3.5mm jack on the extUSB?
3.5mm. I don't have the extUSB with me, I'll try it when I get home...

butler360 10-22-2010 05:59 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 1979475)
What do you want? A bit more feasible? Oy ve, I'm not sure I can keep helping out around here, this is getting out of hand.
Hey, I already said I'd given up. :-|

arrrghhh 10-22-2010 06:14 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by butler360 (Post 1979479)
Hey, I already said I'd given up. :-|
Sorry, I think I need a couple day break from the forums. All this keymap stuff is driving me crazy. I have a list of excuses for my behavior, but I won't list them :p

No hard feelings (I hope), I'm going to go punish my liver.

butler360 10-22-2010 06:19 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arrrghhh (Post 1979483)
Sorry, I think I need a couple day break from the forums. All this keymap stuff is driving me crazy. I have a list of excuses for my behavior, but I won't list them :p

No hard feelings (I hope), I'm going to go punish my liver.
Hah! No worries.

josidhe 10-22-2010 06:26 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Though I would like to add another voice to using the top button as a Home key, I don't mind figuring out how to hack it in myself (though hopefully it's fairly straight forward or explained somewhere, because if I have to learn programming to do it, this might as well be a Linux forum 15 years ago).

My main concern is, Android is heralded as the perfect multitasking mobile OS, and the recent programs menu was one of the primary tools for app switching. End key as home, though useful, is neutered, and incapable of performing the full range of functionality Home key offered. We can argue about "keeping power as power", but you can't really play semantics and technicalities when we're already misusing the Start key as the Menu key (a functionality completely absent in WinMo). If we're willing to reassign one based on *translating* functionality, it's no less reasonable to reassign another.

But all that aside, IS there another way to access recent programs? Is there any app, hack, switch, or anything anywhere within or without Android that brings that menu up when you don't have a Home key? IS there another way to pull up screen previews in LauncherPro?

manekineko 10-22-2010 06:45 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by josidhe (Post 1979489)
Though I would like to add another voice to using the top button as a Home key, I don't mind figuring out how to hack it in myself (though hopefully it's fairly straight forward or explained somewhere, because if I have to learn programming to do it, this might as well be a Linux forum 15 years ago).

My main concern is, Android is heralded as the perfect multitasking mobile OS, and the recent programs menu was one of the primary tools for app switching. End key as home, though useful, is neutered, and incapable of performing the full range of functionality Home key offered. We can argue about "keeping power as power", but you can't really play semantics and technicalities when we're already misusing the Start key as the Menu key (a functionality completely absent in WinMo). If we're willing to reassign one based on *translating* functionality, it's no less reasonable to reassign another.

But all that aside, IS there another way to access recent programs? Is there any app, hack, switch, or anything anywhere within or without Android that brings that menu up when you don't have a Home key? IS there another way to pull up screen previews in LauncherPro?
I 100% agree, but for whatever reason, it seems that the devs minds are made up on this, and feedback is distinctly unwelcomed.

There is no way to fix this without either giving up all new kernel progress on getting the hardware working or becoming a programmer and forking your own branch of rootfs development.

The cons are we gave up multitasking via Recent Apps and we gave up the ability to use any program that uses the home key like Launcher Pro and we made it harder for new users who now need to go into Spare Parts to change settings before using a fresh install.

The only pro is that it's easier for users that aren't using XDAndroid fulltime to remember which button is which, and I don't see why that's a user segment XDAndroid should be focusing on for the long-term.

mjv09 10-22-2010 07:42 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Headphones ARE working w/ USB to 3.5mm adapter to my earplugs.. !! unplug them music plays thru ext speaker... phone/sms rings thru ext speaker when unplugged... works 100% !!!!!! plugged back in to music... works perfectly !! (again.. this is with USB to 3.5mm adapter..can buy them on ebay for $1.85) ..... also my batt life is amazing on latest release.. drops only 5% hr in sleep mode... AMAZING... !! going fulltime Android !
Awesome job guys !!!!

tpdjr 10-22-2010 08:08 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Do you have a dead button? No. Sleep function? It's the power button. Of course it's lame not to update, you're the one whining about something not working how you think it should work. This is how the devs feel it should work. Don't like it, keep your phone back. I'm just giving you an option to your stubbornness, take it or leave it.[/QUOTE]

+1 arrghhh this is the perfect response for a whiner lol

tpdjr 10-22-2010 08:12 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
[QUOTE=butler360;1979470]Yes I saw those, I was hoping for something a bit more feasible.

Dude just stop posting about this. It the way it should be so if you don't like it go back to the old rootfs or stop complaining.

[ACL] 10-22-2010 08:12 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tpdjr (Post 1979546)
Do you have a dead button? No. Sleep function? It's the power button. Of course it's lame not to update, you're the one whining about something not working how you think it should work. This is how the devs feel it should work. Don't like it, keep your phone back. I'm just giving you an option to your stubbornness, take it or leave it.

+1 arrghhh this is the perfect response for a whiner lol
like i always say .. whiners are wieners

:-p

tpdjr 10-22-2010 08:21 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ACL] (Post 1979551)
like i always say .. whiners are wieners

:-p
Definitely lol. A person should never complain about things when they are being done for free.

InvincibleLiving 10-22-2010 08:49 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
I searched the thread but it did'nt pull any results on this issue: When I update thru the startup app, I get an error when I try to unzip the update.zip file in the temp folder... therefore I can't update via phone.

Anyone experiencing this? Is there a workaround?

butler360 10-22-2010 10:17 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tpdjr (Post 1979550)
Dude just stop posting about this. It the way it should be so if you don't like it go back to the old rootfs or stop complaining.
Hey, take it easy, it's already been settled.

I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here, though. We're not, or at least I'm not, demanding anything. Merely inquiring or suggesting. If that's not something the developers want to hear just say the word and I'll be quiet!

tpdjr 10-23-2010 02:55 AM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by butler360 (Post 1979603)
Hey, take it easy, it's already been settled.

I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here, though. We're not, or at least I'm not, demanding anything. Merely inquiring or suggesting. If that's not something the developers want to hear just say the word and I'll be quiet!
My apologies I didn't read back to see it was a misunderstanding. It just seemed like you were demanding but I understand that you weren't. My apologies again not trying to step on anyone's feet.

Hugo381 10-23-2010 03:38 AM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
+1 on a Home Button solution, alternative, app, method, etc. Has anyone found a way to activate the App History function? Or is this something that has to be hard coded to a physical button?

solanoj34 10-23-2010 11:08 AM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by InvincibleLiving (Post 1979574)
I searched the thread but it did'nt pull any results on this issue: When I update thru the startup app, I get an error when I try to unzip the update.zip file in the temp folder... therefore I can't update via phone.

Anyone experiencing this? Is there a workaround?
go to sd card programfiles/xdandroidstartup/temp/UPDATE now delete file (update.zip)and try updating from the startup app again... hope this helps;-)

ModmyPPC 10-23-2010 02:29 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by solanoj34 (Post 1979780)
go to sd card programfiles/xdandroidstartup/temp/UPDATE now delete file (update.zip)and try updating from the startup app again... hope this helps;-)
Worked for me

Thanks :salute:

ModmyPPC 10-23-2010 02:57 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Can someone here tell me how I can get the white android taskbar?

butler360 10-23-2010 03:26 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tpdjr (Post 1979697)
My apologies I didn't read back to see it was a misunderstanding. It just seemed like you were demanding but I understand that you weren't. My apologies again not trying to step on anyone's feet.
It's cool, just wanted to make sure everything was clear.

mthomas 10-23-2010 09:36 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ModmyPPC (Post 1979876)
Can someone here tell me how I can get the white android taskbar?
Get the reference package instead of the BLAZIN...

ryanmv213 10-24-2010 01:53 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
How can we track the system builds for android?

demonlordoftheround 10-24-2010 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmv213
How can we track the system builds for android?
reefers site has a list of the builds in an archive.

ryanmv213 10-24-2010 02:30 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
not needed.

manekineko 10-24-2010 08:10 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmv213 (Post 1980276)
Thanks for the reply. Is there somewhere that defines what the system.ext2, kernel, rootfs, and initrd all do?
You should start by skimming the pinned FAQ on this board, which addresses this, as well as also where you can go to see updates for each part.

ryanmv213 10-24-2010 10:05 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Not needed.

InvincibleLiving 10-25-2010 12:36 AM
Your recent posts have been painfully long and rude for you to end them with "it doesn't matter, I'm moving to a real android phone blah blah blah..."
Sent from my MSM using Tapatalk

manekineko 10-25-2010 10:48 AM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmv213 (Post 1980276)
Is there somewhere that defines what the system.ext2, kernel, rootfs, and initrd all do?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmv213 (Post 1980468)
Yeah I did that but it looks like you skimmed my post and blindly replied assuming the unfallible FAQ had the answer. Before I posted I did skim the FAQ, project tracking, links to android on other phones, downloads, archive, wiki links, twitter, facebook, ect (I don't know how I missed it). Maybe you should read the FAQ and updates section thoroughly instead of skimming through them so you can provide a useful reply.
From the parts of the FAQ that I originally contributed (you might even say I updated the section of the FAQ thoroughly a few months ago instead of skimming so I could provide a useful reply for everyone to reference):

Quote:
initrd.gz is a tiny disk image used to boot a Linux kernel, before the real file system can be mounted. The build of this used for XDAndroid is stable, and updates are rare.
zimage and modules together are the Linux kernel, and form the core operating system. This is where hardware drivers are included.
rootfs.img contains additional files needed to run the basic Linux system.
system.ex2 contains Android's extra parts that run on top of Linux.
Also, you're kinda a jerk and I wonder why anyone is thanking your post where you're being a jerk. What have you contributed lately?

DarkLight 10-25-2010 11:42 AM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 1980690)
Also, you're kinda a jerk and I wonder why anyone is thanking your post where you're being a jerk. What have you contributed lately?
People thanked Musselini for making the trains run on time too...go figure.
:scratch:

[ACL] 10-25-2010 11:44 AM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by InvincibleLiving (Post 1980551)
Your recent posts have been painfully long and rude for you to end them with "it doesn't matter, I'm moving to a real android phone blah blah blah..."
Sent from my MSM using Tapatalk
lol.. ahh you just made my day.. love me a good roast.

tomc585 10-25-2010 12:39 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
cant get wifi working, i have the newest files. any suggestions? using blazn
Do i have to add anything, was looking for the wifi tether.
also skyfire isnt working.

demonlordoftheround 10-25-2010 12:41 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 8.12; MSIEMobile6.0) Sprint T7380)

Is the acess point wep encripted? that doesn' work right now.

arrrghhh 10-25-2010 12:50 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomc585 (Post 1980763)
cant get wifi working, i have the newest files. any suggestions? using blazn
You have the newest files... do you ? Which are they?

At any rate, the #1 reason is modules not matching with the zImage - these must be updated together, and go together. Also, you do NOT rename the modules file, only the zImage & rootfs do you rename.

demonlordoftheround makes a good point as well. I forget a lot of people don't realize how utterly insecure WEP is, and are still using it.

InvincibleLiving 10-25-2010 12:51 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ACL] (Post 1980720)
lol.. ahh you just made my day.. love me a good roast.
lol I usually ignore stuff like that... it's not what I come here for. I come here to see what new greatness the contributors have been able to squeeze out for my phone on a near-daily basis and to support them however I can. If you have a question that I can answer, I try to give you my best answer and I give courtesy and respect to those that do the same. If you come with something else... well I gotta give you something else. :lol:

ryanmv213 10-25-2010 01:32 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by manekineko (Post 1980690)
From the parts of the FAQ that I originally contributed (you might even say I updated the section of the FAQ thoroughly a few months ago instead of skimming so I could provide a useful reply for everyone to reference):

Also, you're kinda a jerk and I wonder why anyone is thanking your post where you're being a jerk. What have you contributed lately?
I completely agree with you and most humblely apologize to both you and the community for my rude useless posts. Although I know it is no excuse; I had a mean wine in me and I was taking out my frustrations on you when I should have been looking at myself for being annoyed with my time consuming flashing addiction. I have been coming to this site entirely too much and will be taking some time off. I'm sorry for another useless post. Thank you and everyone else who has moved this project forward or assisted in the FAQ. I will be deleting my rude posts. Thanks everyone for the well deserved roasting. Again sorry to all.

InvincibleLiving 10-25-2010 03:32 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
All's well & balance has been restored to the kingdom. Very cool of you to return and rectify the situation, that takes alot of guts and says more about you than your previous posts! All's forgotten.

ModmyPPC 10-25-2010 03:48 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by InvincibleLiving (Post 1980904)
All's well & balance has been restored to the kingdom. Very cool of you to return and rectify the situation, that takes alot of guts and says more about you than your previous posts! All's forgotten.
Not Me I hold a grudge even though I wasn't in the fight! :spin:

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...f?t=1288036054

imnuts 10-25-2010 04:00 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
There is a new system.ext2 build available. XDANDROID Project Update Released | xda-developers

tpdjr 10-25-2010 06:09 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by imnuts (Post 1980923)
There is a new system.ext2 build available. XDANDROID Project Update Released | xda-developers
Thx imnuts for posting this made sure it was thanked how is it working for you good?

imnuts 10-25-2010 06:39 PM
Re: [CAB] GSM&CDMA Project Android Port and Startup Utility [10/04] BATT UPDATES!
 
Didn't download it yet. Will probably be a few days before I try it out now that my TP2 is a backup phone.


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