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TP1085 03-11-2010 02:34 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
so i extracted flyers package to the root of my sd card and ran the haret file, but it wouldnt finish booting up. i got to the black screen with the tiny white lines of text and it kept running through those for a long time, but never seemed to finish. twice i let it go for about 20 minutes each before resetting. am i doing something wrong or missing a step? sorry if this has been answered, i just couldnt find it. from the single post instructions, i thought thats all there was to it.

thanks in advance, im really looking forqard to getting this booted up. i had been thinking android might be my next phone, but if we can get sound, camera, and bluetooth working on this i dont think i would even need to switch!

mrrogers1 03-11-2010 02:37 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bytethegroove (Post 1622364)
maybe its just me, and I dont mean to be a ****, but shouldnt this thread be about developement of android, like sound and wifi and data and such...
I think to have to read 20 pages of bs about live wallpapers should be another thread...this thread has 80 pages, and more than 60% is garbage space....
Just my 2 cents..
I think all this unecessary talk about stuff thats not needed, is just slowing down developement....
Again I dont mean to be an ass and Im sorry if this offends someone...but now that we have our own subforum...I think non playing with software and or games belongs in another thread....instead of freaking live wallpapers, lets worry about sound and power management
peace
byte

Agreed! This is a sticky thread too so the bloat is really ridiculous. It should be for dev not wallpapers. Maybe a mod can clean this place up?

It is hard enough to keep up with the dev work as is because updates aren't organized all that well yet. We're just getting started to do this could REALLY spin out of control once more people jump on board.

kris510 03-11-2010 02:40 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by locomariachi (Post 1623030)
Idk if anyone saw on engadget.com they have the info on Android running on the TP2's just saw it, pretty cool that its getting mainstreamed.

Link here:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/h...loves-it-vide/

surge 03-11-2010 02:41 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazzakre (Post 1623050)
Thanks. I was under the impression that Android was fully working on GSM. Guess I was mistaken. Maybe when I was reading posts early on, by "fully" people meant that it functions.

Check the links in my sig. There is a pretty good table already put together showing what's available for which phone.
I think all the links should be in the first post.
They would eliminate having to read the same questions over and over.

biff6789 03-11-2010 02:42 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bytethegroove (Post 1622364)
maybe its just me, and I dont mean to be a ****, but shouldnt this thread be about developement of android, like sound and wifi and data and such...
I think to have to read 20 pages of bs about live wallpapers should be another thread...this thread has 80 pages, and more than 60% is garbage space....
Just my 2 cents..
I think all this unecessary talk about stuff thats not needed, is just slowing down developement....
Again I dont mean to be an ass and Im sorry if this offends someone...but now that we have our own subforum...I think non playing with software and or games belongs in another thread....instead of freaking live wallpapers, lets worry about sound and power management
peace
byte

To be fair, most ROM threads are full of questions like this since that's where all the action is happening and where are the pros are camping to help answer questions. But you're right, ideally these should be asked in different thread

But since I helped fuel the 'live wallpaper' fire I'll apologize. Didn't mean to piss you off.

Thanks to the pros who answered though. You guys rock. And Eschelon was right. It was adding hw3d.force=1 to startup that was causing the problem so we can move on now that the issue is resolved :)

Eschelon 03-11-2010 02:49 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Just a heads up to those that don't follow the IRC channel...

no2chem has battery readouts working correctly (well, mostly) so hopefully soon we'll be able to monitor battery life while in Android :thumbleft:

sfxc13 03-11-2010 02:51 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1623086)
Just a heads up to those that don't follow the IRC channel...

no2chem has battery readouts working correctly (well, mostly) so hopefully soon we'll be able to monitor battery life while in Android :thumbleft:

Is there an android specific channel or just the usual ppcgeeks one?

Eschelon 03-11-2010 03:01 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sfxc13 (Post 1623089)
Is there an android specific channel or just the usual ppcgeeks one?

#htc-linux channel... It's different from the PPCG one. But most people don't follow it because if you don't understand linux, it's mostly greek :razz:

By greek I mean this... Here's an example conversation from the channel:


makkonen: I don't think the others get used very often if ever. but better to have and not need them than vice-versa, I guess

Markinus: NetRipper: Is on your device too, that the values e.g. from GPIOs 0xa900000 are changing after a write every time to 0x1c860054?

Markinus: like this
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8

Markinus: 1c860054 1c860054
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8
Markinus: 00000003 00000002
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8
Markinus: 1c860054 1c860054

eval-:makkonen: makes sense. the unused .ko aren't sitting in ram right?

makkonen: right

NetRipper: Markinus, whats at +0x20?

Markinus: NetRipper: this sould be GPIO1 config

00_MACKIE_00 03-11-2010 03:03 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
them are the best convos to read

sfxc13 03-11-2010 03:03 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1623117)
#htc-linux channel... It's different from the PPCG one. But most people don't follow it because if you don't understand linux, it's mostly greek :razz:

Here's an example conversation from the channel:


makkonen: I don't think the others get used very often if ever. but better to have and not need them than vice-versa, I guess

Markinus: NetRipper: Is on your device too, that the values e.g. from GPIOs 0xa900000 are changing after a write every time to 0x1c860054?

Markinus: like this
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8

Markinus: 1c860054 1c860054
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8
Markinus: 00000003 00000002
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8
Markinus: 1c860054 1c860054

eval-:makkonen: makes sense. the unused .ko aren't sitting in ram right?

makkonen: right

NetRipper: Markinus, whats at +0x20?

Markinus: NetRipper: this sould be GPIO1 config

<= unix geek who didn't want to sit in front of a computer the rest of his life and became a law student

NxtGenCowboy 03-11-2010 03:04 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1623117)
#htc-linux channel... It's different from the PPCG one. But most people don't follow it because if you don't understand linux, it's mostly greek :razz:

By greek I mean this... Here's an example conversation from the channel:


makkonen: I don't think the others get used very often if ever. but better to have and not need them than vice-versa, I guess

Markinus: NetRipper: Is on your device too, that the values e.g. from GPIOs 0xa900000 are changing after a write every time to 0x1c860054?

Markinus: like this
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8

Markinus: 1c860054 1c860054
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8
Markinus: 00000003 00000002
Markinus: pd 0xA9000020 0x8
Markinus: 1c860054 1c860054

eval-:makkonen: makes sense. the unused .ko aren't sitting in ram right?

makkonen: right

NetRipper: Markinus, whats at +0x20?

Markinus: NetRipper: this sould be GPIO1 config


Its really pointless to follow, as soon as something gets done, it'll be posted here or XDA probably pretty fast.

Eschelon 03-11-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NxtGenCowboy (Post 1623127)
Its really pointless to follow, as soon as something gets done, it'll be posted here or XDA probably pretty fast.

Exactly. Same with the new kernel builds over at glemsom. Most are pretty insignificant which is why we ask for everyone not to post here whenever a new build shows up. There's usually several a day there and they roll out fast (hell, one just posted a few minutes ago even...) But if a major change ever shows up, it'll be posted here for sure

madoc 03-11-2010 03:16 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by locomariachi (Post 1623030)
Idk if anyone saw on engadget.com they have the info on Android running on the TP2's just saw it, pretty cool that its getting mainstreamed.

Yes, that is cool.

I did notice that the video showed a build that looked to be utilizing HTC sense. I am downloading the latest stuff to see if this goodness has been added.

RKnight 03-11-2010 03:18 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madoc (Post 1623151)
Yes, that is cool.

I did notice that the video showed a build that looked to be utilizing HTC sense. I am downloading the latest stuff to see if this goodness has been added.

I believe what you are referring to was the clock, the Clock looks to be Beautiful Widget. If you google it you can find the APK and install they have allot of themes and other useful widgets

Eschelon 03-11-2010 03:19 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madoc (Post 1623151)
Yes, that is cool.

I did notice that the video showed a build that looked to be utilizing HTC sense. I am downloading the latest stuff to see if this goodness has been added.

The newest CDMA kernels still aren't running HTC Sense. That video must have been from a GSM Android port

EDIT: I just watched that video on engadget... If that's the vid you are referring to, then that's not HTC Sense. But maybe you're referring to a different video...

Cicatrize 03-11-2010 03:28 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Yeah, it's not sense. It's a widget called Beautiful Widgets, which seems to be unavailable in the market now. It's not free either.

cflynt 03-11-2010 03:28 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1623161)
The newest CDMA kernels still aren't running HTC Sense. That video must have been from a GSM Android port

EDIT: I just watched that video on engadget... If that's the vid you are referring to, then that's not HTC Sense. But maybe you're referring to a different video...

Just a note, the kernel has nothing to do with the actual OS. The kernel is your drivers and such. The OS handles the rest. And yes that is Beautiful Widgets. They are Widgets to replicate the SenseUI Widgets. Pretty slick stuff.

Eschelon 03-11-2010 03:31 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cflynt (Post 1623186)
Just a note, the kernel has nothing to do with the actual OS. The kernel is your drivers and such. The OS handles the rest. And yes that is Beautiful Widgets. They are Widgets to replicate the SenseUI Widgets. Pretty slick stuff.

Yea, that's what I meant. I'm on 31 hours without sleep so I'm not liable for using any wrong terms today. You are warned :razz:

madoc 03-11-2010 03:36 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RKnight (Post 1623160)
I believe what you are referring to was the clock, the Clock looks to be Beautiful Widget. If you google it you can find the APK and install they have allot of themes and other useful widgets

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1623161)
The newest CDMA kernels still aren't running HTC Sense. That video must have been from a GSM Android port

EDIT: I just watched that video on engadget... If that's the vid you are referring to, then that's not HTC Sense. But maybe you're referring to a different video...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cicatrize (Post 1623182)
Yeah, it's not sense. It's a widget called Beautiful Widgets, which seems to be unavailable in the market now. It's not free either.

Thanks to all. Cool widget, had me fooled. I will Download.

cflynt 03-11-2010 03:44 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1623199)
Yea, that's what I meant. I'm on 31 hours without sleep so I'm not liable for using any wrong terms today. You are warned :razz:

Excuses...Excuses heh. I have been home sick all week running 102 fever and a bad throat infection, do you see me complaining heh.

Just kidding bud, get some rest! I need to as well heh.

theExperiment627 03-11-2010 04:04 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
im on this adroidOS ASAP lol good look Pip

khatta 03-11-2010 04:08 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Damn .. this thing rocks !

- Google Maps navigation also works though GPS is buggy/crashes.
- Google Earth isn't working

Overall, cool experience. Great Job by the developers. Thumbs UP.

cflynt 03-11-2010 04:11 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khatta (Post 1623292)
Damn .. this thing rocks !

- Google Maps navigation also works though GPS is buggy/crashes.
- Google Earth isn't working

Overall, cool experience. Great Job by the developers. Thumbs UP.

Hate to break it to you but GPS isn't buggy, it flat out doesn't work! :) The location you are seeing is from Cell Towers not GPS.

Eschelon 03-11-2010 04:12 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khatta (Post 1623292)
- Google Maps navigation also works though GPS is buggy/crashes

It's buggy cuz it isn't actually GPS, it's using Wifi/cell tower triangulation to pick up your location

In fact, it's not a bad idea to go into settings and turn off GPS since it's a battery hog and isn't properly functioning anyways. Might get you better battery life for the time being :thumbleft:

kain125 03-11-2010 05:30 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Hey how can i get live wallpaper to work?

I click the windows button hit wallpaper but it just gives me pictures...

KaliKilla 03-11-2010 05:35 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
I have used the other versions from 95CIVIC and this one is taking way longer to install. So far I am on about 10 minutes. The last ones were loaded all under about 3 minutes or so. Is this common for this new 3/10 version?

superevilllama 03-11-2010 05:38 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kain125 (Post 1623470)
Hey how can i get live wallpaper to work?

I click the windows button hit wallpaper but it just gives me pictures...

OMG dude read the 2nd freaking post of the thread or get out. Seriously. This is rediculous. Search people.. otherwise you are letting your stupidity show. Sorry if this is crude.

tekknogenius 03-11-2010 05:49 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kain125 (Post 1623470)
Hey how can i get live wallpaper to work?

I click the windows button hit wallpaper but it just gives me pictures...

LOL I had the same question and finally figured it out...

What I did was to download a file browser for the market, then went to the AndroidApps/media folder and installed the PickLiveWallpapers application. I was also needed to allow installing third-party non-market apps.

gspitman 03-11-2010 06:03 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Ok, so I downloaded Flyers zip, unzipped it to the root, and tried to run HaRET...

Says "Booting Linux" the progress bar fills up and it vibrates twice, then freezes.

Can anyone point me to what I'm doing wrong in this process?

EDIT: When I say "unzipped it to the root" I mean that I unzipped and moved everything from the nested folder in the ZIP file to the root of my SD, I didn't leave the Droid 3.9.10 folders.

Riley 03-11-2010 06:11 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gspitman (Post 1623538)
Ok, so I downloaded Flyers zip, unzipped it to the root, and tried to run HaRET...

Says "Booting Linux" the progress bar fills up and it vibrates twice, then freezes.

Can anyone point me to what I'm doing wrong in this process?

I just tried this for the first time myself today. Downloading Flyers zip(million thanks man!!) extracted it and put it on the root of the sd card. there are two folders in there so your best bet is take all of the folders and put them in the root of the sd card. I wasnt able to get it working leaving them in the Droid 3.9.10 folder. But it works fine now. Also removed the sim card and data worked as noted on the first page but was able to put it back in on 2nd boot and still get data. Thanks to everyone for this great project. :)

skuddy 03-11-2010 06:11 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
for the record, if anyone cares which i bet they don't. But, it was my SD card that was keeping android from booting. for some reason no matter how many times i formatted it it didn't run. swapped out memory cards, and shazam! works like a charm

gspitman 03-11-2010 06:20 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skuddy (Post 1623556)
for the record, if anyone cares which i bet they don't. But, it was my SD card that was keeping android from booting. for some reason no matter how many times i formatted it it didn't run. swapped out memory cards, and shazam! works like a charm

So maybe I should use the other card I have laying around.

bytethegroove 03-11-2010 06:23 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

But since I helped fuel the 'live wallpaper' fire I'll apologize. Didn't mean to piss you off.
Biff u didn't piss me of at all and wasn't the purpose of my post to piss anyone off...I just would love to see a more organized forum now that we have a subforum. I believe if this thread was more organized, development should be smoother and faster for everyone....
IE...devs dont have to search for a hour or more through useless posts to find the useful ones, therefore their time (which is free for the most part) isn't waisted, therefore in return we get better, faster updates (ideally)...

Quote:

for the record, if anyone cares which i bet they don't. But, it was my SD card that was keeping android from booting. for some reason no matter how many times i formatted it it didn't run. swapped out memory cards, and shazam! works like a charm
Skuddy, actually i think some might care, I havent had this issues, but others have...mind posted the specs of the card that didnt work....this would help people who are having problems....

omited exchange info.....sfxc pointed out I didn't pay enough attention :P my bad guys
peace
byte

skuddy 03-11-2010 06:24 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gspitman (Post 1623585)
So maybe I should use the other card I have laying around.


this happened to me too for a while. i ended up formatting the card and it got into the linux bootloader. but then it would loop and loop and loop until i swapped out the card.

the one that wasnt working was a 4gb kingston microsd HC class 4

sfxc13 03-11-2010 06:25 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bytethegroove (Post 1623591)
I dont know if this helps people with exchange issues....But i have no issues and im not using 3rd party software...

If you are referring to my post earlier the person was looking for exchange calendar (which android does not currently sync). Exchange contacts and mail sync perfectly but to sync the calendar with the android one the easiest way is some piece of third party software.

Eschelon 03-11-2010 06:30 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skuddy (Post 1623594)
this happened to me too for a while. i ended up formatting the card and it got into the linux bootloader. but then it would loop and loop and loop until i swapped out the card.

the one that wasnt working was a 4gb kingston microsd HC class 4

Betcha anything your bad SD card wasn't partitioned properly. And re-formatting generally doesn't delete partitions which is why re-formatting didn't work for you

skuddy 03-11-2010 06:37 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eschelon (Post 1623607)
Betcha anything your bad SD card wasn't partitioned properly. And re-formatting generally doesn't delete partitions which is why re-formatting didn't work for you


id bet your right. it was only partitioned in at 3.76gb thats fairly low compared to some of the other ones ive had which come in at 3.85 etc

Eschelon 03-11-2010 06:39 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skuddy (Post 1623621)
id bet your right. it was only partitioned in at 3.76gb thats fairly low compared to some of the other ones ive had which come in at 3.85 etc

...which probably means that you had an extended partition that had a logical partition within it. Haret only wants to see the one partition

gspitman 03-11-2010 06:40 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
So how do I check the partition table on my SD card?

kain125 03-11-2010 06:41 PM

Re: Android/Linux for CDMA Touch Pro 2
 
Ok thanks for the livewallpaper help

Are they going to work on power management because its battery life with android is rather poor


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