Android, it's alive!.. (2.0.1) - Updated 12/24

[aznmode]

Originally Posted by EGOvoruhk

That's the one in the current build

Gotcha. Thank you.

[Lord Delmar]

Ok, so I've been following this for a while and done some testing with Machinists build.

I was getting the 120 second timeout error on my device when I just used winzip mobile to extract to the root of the SD card. Did about 5 or 6 battery removals at varying intervals to see if it progressed more or less. Little change.

When I extracted to a separate folder, I was getting 'cannot find system.img' Even tried to copy the system file to multiple folders and the root, still got the error.

Got to work today and decided I would just backup my entire SD card (16GB, class 4 Sandisk) and put android only on it. I quick formatted it (just an erase) and unzipped android on my PC to a seperate folder. Then copied the contents of that folder to the SD card. Works perfectly.

I am very impressed with how this looks and works. Speed is modest and the basic functionality is there. I will be experimenting more a builds come out and will be following this closely.

While numerous bugs were expected and found, it is far less than I expected. Very serious props to the people who are developing this and I would ask that if they are watching this thread to let me know if there is ANYTHING I can do to help. From testing to donations, word of mouth to hosting some extra storage space (have my own NAS with a secure web portal), I will be quite happy to assist.

[cd993]

Originally Posted by cd993

hi, trying to get android working on my tp2 however seem to be struggling....

i have formatted my memory card appropriately, extracted the files of "Android201-122409-Ego.zip" to the root, edited the startup file seperatly with several different versions but it still won't fully boot even after leaving for 45min or more. The error it seems to display in the text is: "INFO: rpcrouter:13 blocked for more than 120 seconds" - it displays that for 120 seconds and repeast itself.

I have a RHOD100, anyone have a startup.txt for me to try?

I give up with this SD card! Been trying far too long on and off to get android to boot on it but only ever get the error "failed to mount sd card". Ive ran Norton Disk Doctor for errors, windows scan disk for bad sectors, ive quick formatted it, fully formatted it to FAT32 with various allocation unit sizes, tried with the android files in the root, tried for the hell of it with those files in a sub folder, nothing works!!

Time to buy a new one me thinks unless anyone can offer a suggestion??

[cornelious2]

easiest thing I can think of is buy an 8gig off newegg for less than 20 bucks.

[cd993]

Originally Posted by cornelious2

easiest thing I can think of is buy an 8gig off newegg for less than 20 bucks.

yeah gonna invest in a nice new class 6 8gb, that oughta solve matters lol

[aznmode]

FYI I was able to run this on a 2gb micro SD. Not sure what class as it doesn't specify on the card. I've had it for over 2 years since my mogul.

[citats]

Originally Posted by EGOvoruhk

Wrong. NAND is not all that fast. The Vogue ROMs don't run any faster than the ones via HaRET

I don't need any lessons on Nand vs. flash media, you can make yourself believe anything but the facts are very different! Below a quote from an embeded linux guy.

Originally Posted by http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=102603

Speaking from a system architecture standpoint, Nand flash is directly
mapped into the CPU's memory, so has the advantage of full bus
bandwidth, at whatever the native data rate for the Nand flash is.
The sd card's speed will be a 4 bit wide data bus at best, and that's
only if they have actually implemented the 4 bit wide mode of the sd
card. Otherwise the sd card will run at a much slower rate. As it
is, the SD card will have at best, half the speed of the directly
mapped nand flash and that's only if nand flash is 8 bits wide and the
sd card is four bits wide. The relative rates only get worse from
there.

[EGOvoruhk]

Yet somehow the Android builds running on the Vogue via HaRET look just as fast as the ones running via NAND? I guess mine and everyone else's eyes could be playing tricks on them. Lord knows I've confused 50% speed for 100% speed multiple times. Why just this very morning I thought I was going 65 on the freeway until I got pulled over for only going 30

[citats]

Originally Posted by EGOvoruhk

Yet somehow the Android builds running on the Vogue via HaRET look just as fast as the ones running via NAND? I guess mine and everyone else's eyes could be playing tricks on them. Lord knows I've confused 50% speed for 100% speed multiple times. Why just this very morning I thought I was going 65 on the freeway until I got pulled over for only going 30

LOL

Android caches heavily, if that cache resides in memory it will be fast, however these early builds as promising as they are, yet the cache seems to be going to the sd, causing pauses in executing previous commands.
I said what I did simply because it is fact not because I am against Haret, I am not and will use it when available.

[animez]

I downloaded Spb Benchmark to find out if the NAND memory is faster or not, rather than have everyone continue to lob forum grenades back and forth. I ran the read/write tests on the main memory and my 8GB Sandisk class 4 SDHC (all times are milliseconds, pasted from the xml results file);

fs=fixed storage
sc=storage card
manyfiles=10KB file x 100
largefile=1MB file

<fs-largefilewrite> 440.600000
<sc-largefilewrite> 1518.500000

<fs-largefileread> 37.100000
<sc-largefileread> 264.600000

<fs-largefilecopy> 492.600000
<sc-largefilecopyto> 326.200000
<sc-largefilecopyfrom> 472.900000

<fs-manyfileswrite> 3919.600000
<sc-manyfileswrite> 4971.400000

<fs-manyfilesread> 385.700000
<sc-manyfilesread> 555.900000

<fs-manyfilescopy> 3482.200000
<sc-manyfilescopyto> 2744.400000
<sc-manyfilescopyfrom> 2811.300000

<fs-dirlisting> 2201.400000
<sc-dirlisting> 214.900000

While some results were about what I would expect (large file tests) the SDHC holds it's own. Someone with a class 6 card should run this and post their results as well.