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humrod 08-16-2009 02:41 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Anyone has a date adjust problem with the 23028 sys?
I mean, it's impossible to change the date, cause there's no keyboard in the clock screen?

FCW 08-16-2009 03:58 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DomSim (Post 1104819)
you have to recmod a ton of sys modules if you still have a 6.1 nk.exe
im using the 6.5 nk.exe so in theory i shouldnt need to. im using this on the hermes so i have the dpi 96 and 0409 files use erivus visual kitchen

stephenophof 08-16-2009 04:27 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by humrod (Post 1104870)
Anyone has a date adjust problem with the 23028 sys?
I mean, it's impossible to change the date, cause there's no keyboard in the clock screen?
You can use the up/down button on your phone for adjusting the time and date. ;)

CRACING 08-16-2009 09:30 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1104837)
Basically, ANY module can be recmodded, but typically, if the dll/exe is used frequently/always, leave it as module. With the files I post, for example, I convert a lot of the IE stuff, Windows Media Player and some other random exe and dll modules that don't always stay running (like solitaire and bubblebreaker, fexplore.exe, etc.)

There is NO point in converting resource only dlls since they are allocated to Slot 63 and should NOT be recmodded. If they are recmodded, then they will eat up Slot 0 when they are dynamically loaded.

As far as your benchmarks, what benchmarks are you referring to?
Ok got it.

I use spb benchmark. Before converting modules to files ( Untouched SYS ), The overall performance in benchmark report was 265 but the ezinput caused problems so I had convert modules inside IE packages to files and in benchmark report overall performance gone 1 step down thats 264.

And also as I'm using yours source now, in benchmark report overall performance is 263. ](*,)

So that mean converting modules to files, makes the OS slower. :scratch:

However, I'm low in these slots, (Re)allocation and etc. :)

Best Regards

pyrorob 08-17-2009 02:50 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1102030)
Makes sense. Basically any NON-resource only exe or DLL that is in module format will be allocated space in Slot 1 or 0.

On another note. NightRaven from XDA was kind enough to take the vbscript I wrote called SuperRecMod and rewrite/compile it in vb.net. It runs MUCH quicker than the script I posted, but works pretty much the same. (i.e. make a shortcut to it in your "Send To" folder and make sure recmod.exe or nuerecmod.exe are in the same folder as the exe) There is now a config file with it that allows you to choose whether or not you want to use recmod.exe or nuerecmod.exe. It is currently configured for nuerecmod.exe.

Thanks NightRaven! :headbang:
hey just curious any way you have or could make something along the lines of a super-reversmode? it be way nice to be able to do both using the send to menu..

humrod 08-17-2009 05:18 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenophof (Post 1105061)
You can use the up/down button on your phone for adjusting the time and date. ;)
Thanks, solved.

ther-amm 08-17-2009 08:08 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
1 Attachment(s)
21939_0409_All_DPI_All_RESV and 21940 MSXIPKernel for those who have not yet.

http://rapidshare.com/files/26834196...PI_All_RESV.7z

ankit360 08-17-2009 08:14 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ankit360 (Post 1104536)
i never try 219xx build bcoz when development started on this build its extremely unusable but after lots release lots of build i think it;s stable now, can anybody give feedback on latest 219xx build, tell me which build is use for daily use ?
plz reply :scratch: :protest:

ther-amm 08-17-2009 08:21 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ankit360 (Post 1105995)
plz reply :scratch: :protest:
No, dial-pad still have a scrollbar, such as the 23022 dial-pad.

ther-amm 08-17-2009 08:26 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
For daily use it seems still 23016 imho.

jmartin72 08-17-2009 08:58 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Does anyone have the link to the ppck developer files? The link was posted a while ago, and I've tried searching for it, but I guess I dont know what it was called. I can't find it anywhere.

joojoobee666 08-17-2009 09:05 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CRACING (Post 1105496)
Ok got it.

I use spb benchmark. Before converting modules to files ( Untouched SYS ), The overall performance in benchmark report was 265 but the ezinput caused problems so I had convert modules inside IE packages to files and in benchmark report overall performance gone 1 step down thats 264.

And also as I'm using yours source now, in benchmark report overall performance is 263. ](*,)

So that mean converting modules to files, makes the OS slower. :scratch:

However, I'm low in these slots, (Re)allocation and etc. :)

Best Regards
Well, I would say that the performance difference is practically NIL and having more free VM space in Slot 0 would be more important. What good does a slight increase in performance do if the application you want to run does not run due to the VM contraints? (i.e. Slot 0 is to full and therefore only has a few MB's to run apps instead of the approximate 29MB instead if it were to be entireley empty minus some of the XIP stuff). Of course this all mainly applies to the 6.1 kernel as WMReloc and platform rebuilder will fill Slot 1, then 0. But the 6.5 kernel allows them to fill up slot s 1,60,61 then 0. So you have an extra 64MB of module allocation space. Basically with 6.1, we only have 32MB of allocation since we really shouldn't be using 0.

The performance COULD be related to the fact that MORE of the modules have to be dynamically loaded from the flash into ram, as opposed to eXecuting In Place (XIP)?

FCW 08-17-2009 09:41 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
hey guys just wondering if anyone has had this problem. out of the 3 latest 230xx builds i have found that 23024 boots and 23024 and 23028 dont even though im using the 6.5 nk.exe for my device (hermes)

with the 23024 build sms works properly for a change so i havent had to change the redist lang folder but the shell folder needed changing as cabs themes and active sync didnt work. i got these from 23028.
after changing them and getting all that working there was still and issue with the start menu and the gridscene files that i replaced with the files also from 23028.

so after all that all should have been well but now the phone crashes when i use the the toucscreen to scroll down through the start menu. Using the d-pad it works fine.

could this be a bug with the new files? maybe the touch recogniser.dll? any pointers

sendhiloo7 08-17-2009 11:36 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by humrod (Post 1104822)
here you are!

Thanks very much

joojoobee666 08-17-2009 11:46 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pyrorob (Post 1105883)
hey just curious any way you have or could make something along the lines of a super-reversmode? it be way nice to be able to do both using the send to menu..
Yes, good idea!

CRACING 08-17-2009 11:55 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joojoobee666 (Post 1106031)
Well, I would say that the performance difference is practically NIL and having more free VM space in Slot 0 would be more important. What good does a slight increase in performance do if the application you want to run does not run due to the VM contraints? (i.e. Slot 0 is to full and therefore only has a few MB's to run apps instead of the approximate 29MB instead if it were to be entireley empty minus some of the XIP stuff). Of course this all mainly applies to the 6.1 kernel as WMReloc and platform rebuilder will fill Slot 1, then 0. But the 6.5 kernel allows them to fill up slot s 1,60,61 then 0. So you have an extra 64MB of module allocation space. Basically with 6.1, we only have 32MB of allocation since we really shouldn't be using 0.

The performance COULD be related to the fact that MORE of the modules have to be dynamically loaded from the flash into ram, as opposed to eXecuting In Place (XIP)?
Yeah your right. A lil difference in benchmark doesn't do much in usage. :)

Thanks for the detailed infos.

Best Regards

humrod 08-17-2009 05:08 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
I remember a post about to reduce the bars size in the post 23022 sys, but i just can't found it.
If someone remebers where is or close to...
Thanks in advance

joojoobee666 08-17-2009 05:24 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmartin72 (Post 1106025)
Does anyone have the link to the ppck developer files? The link was posted a while ago, and I've tried searching for it, but I guess I dont know what it was called. I can't find it anywhere.

Yup, here ya go. http://www.ppckitchen.org/Downloads/...s.Unsupported/

qball1616 08-17-2009 08:17 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
is there a way to take just the "ok" button being in the bottom left corner out of the new 23028 build? I got the build to boot, but couldn't get it to change from the aqua/teal colored 6.1 looking theme, and activsync wouldn't connect. The only real reason I want to upgrade is to have the ok button being moved to the lower left corner

MassStash 08-17-2009 08:50 PM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qball1616 (Post 1107178)
is there a way to take just the "ok" button being in the bottom left corner out of the new 23028 build? I got the build to boot, but couldn't get it to change from the aqua/teal colored 6.1 looking theme, and activsync wouldn't connect. The only real reason I want to upgrade is to have the ok button being moved to the lower left corner
rock someones 23028 the works better perhaps?

twistedconnection 08-18-2009 01:17 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
hi,
build 23403 is up here.
thanks da_g

regards,

twisted :D

bikeandestroyx 08-18-2009 01:24 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedconnection (Post 1107594)
hi,
build 23403 is up here.
thanks da_g

regards,

twisted :D
thanks man im ****ing stoked.. 6.5.1! hell yeah.
thanks da_g and thank you twisted for the tip

bgill55 08-18-2009 01:41 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedconnection (Post 1107594)
hi,
build 23403 is up here.
thanks da_g

regards,

twisted :D

Thanks!! should us .96 DPI users, go with our 23028 dpi files or what?

twistedconnection 08-18-2009 02:05 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgill55 (Post 1107614)
Thanks!! should us .96 DPI users, go with our 23028 dpi files or what?
hi,
yes, you can use the 96dpi from 23028.

regards,

twisted :D

twistedconnection 08-18-2009 04:12 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Builds 23601 & 21943 is up
here
here
here
source: here
21943: here
23601: here

regards,

twisted :D

bikeandestroyx 08-18-2009 04:21 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedconnection (Post 1107751)
Builds 23601 & 21943 is up
here
here
here
source: here
21943: here
23601: here

regards,

twisted :D
damn 3 leaks in one night!
thanks again man.

twistedconnection 08-18-2009 04:24 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikeandestroyx (Post 1107754)
damn 3 leaks in one night!
thanks again man.
no probs, lets enjoy these leaks. :D

regards,

twisted :D

bikeandestroyx 08-18-2009 04:31 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedconnection (Post 1107757)
no probs, lets enjoy these leaks. :D

regards,

twisted :D
im definately enjoying them! have you tried 23601 yet?

twistedconnection 08-18-2009 04:36 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikeandestroyx (Post 1107761)
im definately enjoying them! have you tried 23601 yet?
still downloading man, i will mirror these leaks as soon as i download them.
my wife is using my device so i cannot test them, i will be getting my phone back next month.

regards,

twisted :D

bikeandestroyx 08-18-2009 04:38 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
im dling too now its at about 60% will also post a mirror from my ftp.
raysource dl's soo slow ](*,)

twistedconnection 08-18-2009 04:48 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Mirrors:
(megaupload) 23403
(megaupload) 21943 all dpi 0409
(rapidshare) 23601 SYS_Common & XIP
(rapidshare) 23601 all dpi 0409

regards,

twisted :D

AndrewSh 08-18-2009 05:07 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Sorry for off-topic, but .... is that kinda joke?
I'm adult and I'm tired to read all the time forum rules or fill the missing forms in my profile instead of reading the forum!!! Leaving that forum!....

bikeandestroyx 08-18-2009 05:18 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewSh (Post 1107773)
Sorry for off-topic, but .... is that kinda joke?
I'm adult and I'm tired to read all the time forum rules or fill the missing forms in my profile instead of reading the forum!!! Leaving that forum!....
what are you talking about? not sure what your saying. That isnt a joke its the forum rules.

AndrewSh 08-18-2009 05:27 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikeandestroyx (Post 1107781)
what are you talking about? not sure what your saying. That isnt a joke its the forum rules.
What I'm talking about? Nice question! Instead of the page I am interested in (current forum) I always get the message to visit the forum rules page or to edit my profile because not all fields are filled up! I'm tired to do that!!!!

bikeandestroyx 08-18-2009 05:28 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewSh (Post 1107785)
What I'm talking about? Nice question! Instead of the page I am interested in (current forum) I always get the message to visit the forum rules page or to edit my profile because not all fields are filled up! I'm tired to do that!!!!
oh okay well you need to go to edit profile here.
Then type in Tell us what PPC your using. and Who is your cellular service provider?

AndrewSh 08-18-2009 05:40 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikeandestroyx (Post 1107787)
oh okay well you need to go to edit profile here.
Then type in Tell us what PPC your using. and Who is your cellular service provider?
Every time When I come to read? OK, forget it.... You guys better fix your board instead of teaching me how to behave..... My PPC is visible and the name of my provider will tell you nothing - you are in CA and I am not sure that you even heard about my country on the other side of the globe.....
Anyway - sorry for off-top and let's finish - no one is interested.....

bikeandestroyx 08-18-2009 05:43 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewSh (Post 1107795)
Every time When I come to read? OK, forget it.... You guys better fix your board instead of teaching me how to behave..... My PPC is visible and the name of my provider will tell you nothing - you are in CA and I am not sure that you even heard about my country on the other side of the globe.....
Anyway - sorry for off-top and let's finish - no one is interested.....
try editing your carrier so it shows more that *****, also try deleting your cookies and history in your browser, then restarting it. This should fix it.

stephenophof 08-18-2009 06:10 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
23403
21943 all dpi 0409
23601 ...uploading...
But which one is the most actual and the newest one? :P

bikeandestroyx 08-18-2009 06:11 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenophof (Post 1107803)
But which one is the most actual and the newest one? :P
23601 is the newest

twistedconnection 08-18-2009 06:34 AM
Re: WM 6.5 Kitchen QVGA and VGA Developer Edition
 
Updated Mirrors: :D
Build 23403
(megaupload) WM65-23403-CE-OS-5-2-4453-LANG-0409-DPI-192-RESH-480-RESV-640
(megaupload) WM65-23403-CE-OS-5-2-4453-LANG-0409-DPI-ALL-RESH-ALL-RESV-ALL
Build 21943
(megaupload) 21943_0409_All_DPI_All_RESV
Build 23601
(megaupload) 23601_0409_All_DPI_All_RESV
(megaupload) 23601_Common_XIP
(rapidshare) 23601 SYS_Common & XIP
(rapidshare) 23601 all dpi 0409

regards,

twisted :D


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