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Old 01-24-2009, 03:01 AM
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Re: Pretty cool iphone app...I want this for the Touch Pro.

The TP screen is not capable of running that app.
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:37 AM
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Re: Pretty cool iphone app...I want this for the Touch Pro.

yea i hate to say it but will never see this on our wm phones because our screens dont support multi touch sorry guys
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Old 01-24-2009, 06:08 AM
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Re: Pretty cool iphone app...I want this for the Touch Pro.

interesting app, dont see a reason to leave winmobile just for this app though lol
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Old 01-24-2009, 10:10 AM
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Re: Pretty cool iphone app...I want this for the Touch Pro.

I thought the pro and diamond were capable of multi-touch? I thought I seen it in a video from xda where a guy actually showed us all that it was.

by the way I found a video to prove it...well its a shot in the dark, but there is still a glimmer of hope for our devices....engadget.com/2008/08/20/htcs-touch-diamond-pro-are-multi-touch-gods-just-not-how-you/

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Old 01-24-2009, 01:50 PM
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Re: Pretty cool iphone app...I want this for the Touch Pro.

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I thought the pro and diamond were capable of multi-touch? I thought I seen it in a video from xda where a guy actually showed us all that it was.

by the way I found a video to prove it...well its a shot in the dark, but there is still a glimmer of hope for our devices....engadget.com/2008/08/20/htcs-touch-diamond-pro-are-multi-touch-gods-just-not-how-you/
Yes, those phones can apparently support multi-touch, it's just that Windows Mobile doesn't support it yet within the screen area. With any luck WM7 will resolve that.
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Re: Pretty cool iphone app...I want this for the Touch Pro.

The Diamond and Pro don't have multi-touch capable screens! The only part that is "multi-touch," is the capacitive area under the screen... and even that is not necessarily true. It recognizes left of the d-pad, and right of the d-pad, but not two fingers one one side.

While these screens cannot do multi-touch, there are other ways of doing intrument-like stuff.. using hardware buttons, or what have you.

Lastly... I still believe that a VERY BASIC form of multi-touch is possible on a resistive screen.

It's a fairly simple concept. Open up Notes, or any other program that lets you draw. Push in two spots at once, and it will draw exactly in the middle. Push in 3-spots, and you get the center--again... Push four, and so on. A resistive screen works on averages.

All you would have to do is write the software to "guess" at which "buttons" you are hitting on this instrument based on where the "average" ends up.

If the average ends up in one of the four corners, where the instrument holes are, then you know you are only pushing ONE button. If the average shows in between two holes, then you know you are pushing those TWO holes...

You can work with averages, math, and logic, to do a VERY SIMPLE form of multi-touch on resistive screens.

I am still at a loss as to why no one does this. I do remember hearing someone talk about making a photo viewer that works like this... It's really not as hard as it seems--the OS/software can read the average size of a 'press,' as well as it's central location.

So if you grab a photo with two fingers, and slide them apart--let's say, to zoom in... a WM device is capable of seeing an average point, with a small diameter, starting where your two fingers were---and as you move your fingers further apart, the diameter would grow, and the software could then realize you are zooming.

Since our screens aren't that great at multi-touch, you would have to be very careful at how you implemented something like this. If you wanted to use it in an internet browser, you would have to 'enable' it first--perhaps by pushing and holding... because the screen will have a hard time differentiating between regular use, and multi-touch use.

All-in-all, this instrument software could easily be written for WM--well, the screen part, that is. Tapping into the microphone on a WM device is harder--at least, it is during a phone call--hence the reason we have very few in-call recording software...

I suggest opening up notes and trying for yourself. You will quickly realize how easily this can be done.
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Re: Pretty cool iphone app...I want this for the Touch Pro.

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I suggest opening up notes and trying for yourself. You will quickly realize how easily this can be done.
Good thought but I think you would run into problems. ie for ocarina there would be 4x3x2x1 permutations = 24 and I dont think you could get precise enough to be able to figure all those averages out. on the TP and diamond one should be able to use the capacitive buttons however.
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Re: Pretty cool iphone app...I want this for the Touch Pro.

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Good thought but I think you would run into problems. ie for ocarina there would be 4x3x2x1 permutations = 24 and I dont think you could get precise enough to be able to figure all those averages out. on the TP and diamond one should be able to use the capacitive buttons however.
Maybe I missed something, but it looked like you only had four 'holes' or buttons to push on the screen...

If that's the case, then it's easily done.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:55 PM
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Program like the Iphone?

Looking for a program like the one the iphone has to select a restraunt at random for you based on how much you wanna spend and what area you are in and what type of food?
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Re: Program like the Iphone?

sounds dope... dont know if there is one for WM though... i'm listening to see if anyone else may know...
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