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scottymomo 10-10-2007 04:57 PM

Nice theme storyr, the big buttons are really nice....except on the radar/images screen (especially on 240x240) as they cover up probably half of the visible area :)

jrtesq 10-10-2007 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by storyr (Post 99520)



Thanks! Which layout were you thinking of? The taller, the easier...

I use the 240X240 +130 theme.


Quote:

Originally Posted by storyr (Post 99520)
That is a Commuter-240 only feature - it can't be done on clear layouts like this one. Sorry...

I know nothing about making themes, so I'm curious as to why the moon phases won't work on clear themes. Can you give a brief explanation, just so I know what works and what doesn't, for when I have time to start making some themes?

Thanks.

Xxsrt4xX 10-10-2007 07:57 PM

storyr never ceases to amaze!!!! :thumbleft:

storyr 10-10-2007 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blpalmer76 (Post 99210)
Once again, hands down to you. Here are a couple of pictures of what I did to make you theme better suite my needs.

Nice job. Looks like a cross between PhatPhinger and Commuter - PhatCommuter ;-) Which button did you push to get that layout on the right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottymomo (Post 99632)
Nice theme storyr, the big buttons are really nice....except on the radar/images screen (especially on 240x240) as they cover up probably half of the visible area :)

Thanks. Well, considering the theme - big buttons were kind of the point. I attemped a balance between usability and functionality...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xxsrt4xX (Post 99744)
storyr never ceases to amaze!!!! :thumbleft:

Thanks - I appreciate that!

storyr 10-10-2007 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrtesq (Post 99656)
I use the 240X240 +130 theme.

Did you try the 124 (which was recently added to the theme download)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrtesq (Post 99656)
I know nothing about making themes, so I'm curious as to why the moon phases won't work on clear themes. Can you give a brief explanation, just so I know what works and what doesn't, for when I have time to start making some themes?

Thanks.

OK, you asked for it ;-) so here goes:

Background
  • The Commuter-240 theme uses a concept that Doreen and I came up with: "Actual Moon Phase". She used the same concept in her "Vista Alive" theme.
  • Weather icons, numbered from 0 to 47, are a combination of day icons, night icons and "dual mode" icons - those that are used whether it's day or night (such as "cloudy").
  • Night icons are numbered 27, 29, 33, 45, 46, 47. These are the only icons where the moon should be visible in any way. In weather icon sets, they normally display a full moon.
  • In addition to the weather icons, are moon icons - which correspond to the moon phase, but are treated differently than weather icons.
How "Actual Moon Phase" concept works
  • The layout uses a background image, plus three layers of icons stacked on top of each other.
  • On the bottom is the background image. In the case of Commuter-240, a black field:
    Code:

    ;IMAGE
    dark_view_panel.png
    1,1

  • Next is the moon phase icon (this is the "actual" moon phase):
    Code:

    ;IMAGE
    #MOON-LARGE#
    8,4

  • On top of that is a "moon blocker" icon. The purpose of this layer is to only let the moon show through when it's a night icon. Basically, it's a repeat of the background image for each icon - except for icons 27, 29, 33, 45, 46, 47 (the night icons), which are transparent. This way, the moon phase will be visible at only the correct times. All other times, it's "blocked" by the repeat of the background image.
    Code:

    ;IMAGE
    #ICON-CUSTOM-MOONBLOCKERDARK#
    2,2

  • Last is the actual weather icon itself - with a twist: The moon has been removed from all night icons. This way, if it's a night icon, the actual moon will be visible behind it.
    Code:

    ;IMAGE
    #ICON-CUSTOM-HUGE#
    0,-6

Even if none of that makes sense (I babble): The reason it won't work on a clear theme is the "moon-blocker" level. You can't block the moon phase on a clear theme - you would see the moon behind your icons all of the time...

Sorry for the lengthy response, but it's rare to find someone who actually apprectiated that feature in Commuter-240...

tim1979 10-10-2007 10:06 PM

Hi blpalmer76, is your image you create available for sharing??
hope to give it a try..
Thanks!!

blpalmer76 10-10-2007 11:31 PM

Yes, I will post my theme only tomorrow. You can download the icons from the beginning of this thread.


Storyr,
I also love the moon phase and that is why I went back to 240. Is there a way to make it work with my set up since my background is black? Also your question about what button I pushed I do not know what exactly you are asking. If you are referencing the button you had on the right I replaced it with an invisible button and placed it over the temp symbol so it is easy for people to remember where to press. For the the time, temp, city & fells like text I just edited your code to place them over there and yes it does look like the 240 and I like that set up. I personally think it looks cleaner and the weather image pops more. Let me know about the moon phase. You can look at the code changes I did when I post the theme.

Just to let everyone know I edited the 240x240 145 but I incresed the pixels to 161 fo fill my screen with Phone Alarm installed.

charleskincade 10-10-2007 11:54 PM

I did try both the 124 and 127 for the 240X240. I think that I need something like 120 but for 240X320
Quote:

Originally Posted by storyr (Post 99520)
Thanks budney - btw - who is that on your avatar?



Thanks! Which layout were you thinking of? The taller, the easier...



That is a Commuter-240 only feature - it can't be done on clear layouts like this one. Sorry...



Thanks. I did add two new layout sizes yesterday for the 240x240 sizes: 124 and 127. Have you tried them for size yet? If one of them works, then I'll port it to the 240x320 size for you.


charleskincade 10-10-2007 11:57 PM

storyr, I tried both the 124 and 127 and it froze and wouldn't do anything. that's what happened.

blpalmer76 10-11-2007 12:04 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Here is the a version in 161 pixels high. This only supports the 240x240 screens.Enjoy.

This has been corrected so you will not get the storage card error message.

budney 10-11-2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by storyr (Post 99520)
Thanks budney - btw - who is that on your avatar?

It was a pic from a article online about a cellphone throwing contest. Loved the pic so I am using it. :)

tim1979 10-11-2007 01:15 AM

Hi blpalmer76,

Thanks for the version that support for the 161 pixel but i think i encounter some fault.
1) when i click on the temperature, its show a blank page without any icon for me to select and show :"Weather Panel: Waiting for storage card... or invalid layout file" - Screen002.jpg

2) the icon still not in position -Screen001.jpg

Please advise..
Thanks!!!

tim1979 10-11-2007 01:22 AM

some error
 
2 Attachment(s)
Hi blpalmer76,

Thanks for the version that support for the 161 pixel but i think i encounter some fault.
1) when i click on the temperature, its show a blank page without any icon for me to select and show :"Weather Panel: Waiting for storage card... or invalid layout file" - Screen002.jpg

2) the icon still not in position -Screen001.jpg

Please advise..
Thanks!!!

blpalmer76 10-11-2007 09:45 AM

For your icons being off center it looks like you are using icons from a different theme. Download the icon set from the beginning of this thread. Even my clouds are off to the right because that is how the icon was built. These icons were centered around the sun I beleive. Switch to a city that has sun and see if it is centered.

For you storage card problem I need to adjust the code. Sorry, that was my mistake. I renamed the files right before I posted them so the file name would match the pixel hight of the theme. I will correct this and repost it.

blpalmer76 10-11-2007 09:52 AM

1 Attachment(s)
The storage card error is now fixed.

jrtesq 10-11-2007 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by storyr (Post 99787)

Sorry for the lengthy response, but it's rare to find someone who actually appreciated that feature in Commuter-240...

Thank you for the explanation. The moon phase is an important feature to me, so I'm glad to know how it works. One of these days I plan to try making some themes, so it's nice to have some background info (for my inner geek).

Thanks for all the great themes you've created, btw.

tim1979 10-11-2007 11:41 PM

Hi, Thanks Alotz!!!!
its working fine and perfect!!!!

faceoff101 10-12-2007 07:00 AM

im having problems with phat finger i think im installing these files wronf what would i need besides the files your providing to make this work ? the only thing that showing up is weatherpanel and 2 big buttons on the side after installing phat finger what did i do wrong? can some one help please my newbie arse is stuck on this and i wanted to have this installed by tonight "><"

Pibe38 10-12-2007 03:08 PM

You need...

* WeatherPanel
* The WP authorizaion update, so WP actually updates
* The PhatPhinger theme and icons

Remember to go to settings and select the PhatPhinger theme, a PhatPhinger layout and the PhatPhinger icon set.

faceoff101 10-12-2007 05:14 PM

i did download the wp from storyr http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...t=weatherpanel < i downloaded the cab file that suppose to include all of the files in one after that i set up the wp were i live then i downloaded phat phinger and read the instructions provided after installing phat phinger nothing happened i soft reset the 700wx and still nothing i did select the theme layout and icon set to phat phinger i did everything that was told in the instructions and now for some reason wp is not updating i live in nj its about 62 degrees it shows up at 12c lol what the hell is going on i soft reseted the device i even unistalled wp and reinstalled it same problem wp is connected threw vision it dials but no update?so anyways to my conclusion i ended out deleting phat phinger from my ppc
but kept wp since i noticed when i reinstalled it that wp rapped itself around the registry so hopefully with out me having to hard reset my phone and go threw all the insatllation of resco explorer, memmaid, spbbackup sorry for my noobness i guess i wont be having wp or the phat phinger theme working for tonight ;(

storyr 10-14-2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faceoff101 (Post 100730)
i did download the wp from storyr http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...t=weatherpanel < i downloaded the cab file that suppose to include all of the files in one after that i set up the wp were i live then i downloaded phat phinger and read the instructions provided after installing phat phinger nothing happened i soft reset the 700wx and still nothing i did select the theme layout and icon set to phat phinger i did everything that was told in the instructions and now for some reason wp is not updating i live in nj its about 62 degrees it shows up at 12c lol what the hell is going on i soft reseted the device i even unistalled wp and reinstalled it same problem wp is connected threw vision it dials but no update?so anyways to my conclusion i ended out deleting phat phinger from my ppc
but kept wp since i noticed when i reinstalled it that wp rapped itself around the registry so hopefully with out me having to hard reset my phone and go threw all the insatllation of resco explorer, memmaid, spbbackup sorry for my noobness i guess i wont be having wp or the phat phinger theme working for tonight ;(

It sounds like you had everything installed correctly.

Question: Which city did you select? When adding a city, make sure you enter the city name into the Search For field, tap the Search button, then select the city from the list that's returned.

Also, because you have a Treo (square screen), there are some settings that you can't see - because they're cut off. To see all of the settings, access the WeatherPanel settings through the Today settings:
Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Today -> Items tab -> highlight WeatherPanel and tap the Options button.
You should then get a vertical scroll bar that allows you to scroll down to the settings that you can't normally see, such as Units (on the Cities tab) - yours sound like they were set to Metric...

faceoff101 10-14-2007 03:40 PM

thanks for the up on this i appreciate your feed back would you happen to know what are the files in the registry that would need to be deleted so i can start fresh with this install?

storyr 10-14-2007 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faceoff101 (Post 101456)
thanks for the up on this i appreciate your feed back would you happen to know what are the files in the registry that would need to be deleted so i can start fresh with this install?

Sure. To completely remove WeatherPanel:
  1. Uninstall WeatherPanel
  2. Uninstall any icon sets/themes that were installed via a CAB
  3. Delete these folders (if they exist):
    • Program Files\MarsWare
    • Storage Card\Program Files\MarsWare
  4. Using your registry editor, remove these keys (if they exist):
    • HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Marsware
    • HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Marsware-Install
    • HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apps\MarsWare WeatherPanel

charleskincade 10-14-2007 08:34 PM

Hey storyr, did you ever do the layout in a 115 or 120 for me since the 124 and 127 didn't do anything for me? if you can I'd like to have in 240x320, thanks

storyr 10-14-2007 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charleskincade (Post 101571)
Hey storyr, did you ever do the layout in a 115 or 120 for me since the 124 and 127 didn't do anything for me? if you can I'd like to have in 240x320, thanks

I can't shrink it any further without totally reworking the layout. Do me a favor a post a screenshot of your setup - with the 124 layout showing...

budney 10-15-2007 12:50 AM

This is such a great theme storyr, thanks again!. :D

I did have time to slightly mod the 240x320+145 layout to my liking. 8)

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...007_233629.jpg

bigric70 10-15-2007 12:07 PM

Storyr
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTT... for a guy with fat (phat) fingers and a 700wx tiny screen, this is PERFECT... I WAS a son of commuter fan prior to this, but... just AWESOME...
Now, focus all of your mystical wizard powers to create a wp pilot to work with pocketbreeze...
Thanks again storyr... you are awesome.

BIGRIC

storyr 10-15-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budney (Post 101677)
This is such a great theme storyr, thanks again!. :D

I did have time to slightly mod the 240x320+145 layout to my liking. 8)

Looks good budney. I can see that the CLOCK is very important to you ;-)
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigric70 (Post 101801)
Storyr
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTT... for a guy with fat (phat) fingers and a 700wx tiny screen, this is PERFECT... I WAS a son of commuter fan prior to this, but... just AWESOME...
Now, focus all of your mystical wizard powers to create a wp pilot to work with pocketbreeze...
Thanks again storyr... you are awesome.

BIGRIC

Thanks - glad you like it. I did figure out why WP-Pilot doesn't work in PB. PB screws up the window names, which is how WP-Pilot finds the WeatherPanel plugin. I'm planning to revisit it and see if I can develop a workaround...

2sa 10-15-2007 01:00 PM

Hey storyr...I have used this theme for about a week and absolutely love it and ALL of it's functionality. I do miss a couple of the Son-of-Commuter functions though like the ability to display a radar image from the today screen, also the theme has reduced my image space considerably when viewing radar images and I no longer have the ability that I can find to zoom in or out of images...thoughts?

storyr 10-15-2007 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2sa (Post 101831)
... and I no longer have the ability that I can find to zoom in or out of images...thoughts?

WeatherPanel, when programmed to display a specific radar image (1-8, in this case) does not show the zoom/play buttons by default. Just place your phat phinger on the image and hold for a second and they'll show up...

Sam Woo 10-19-2007 02:40 AM

I can't see the currrent & forcast temperature
 
Your theme & icons are extremely fantastic. I love it so much.

The one problem is that I can't see the current / forecast temperature.

Are there anyone who can help me with it?

Sam Woo 10-19-2007 02:49 AM

It's beautiful!!! The one problem is that I can't see temperatures.
Are there anyone who can help me? Pls?

Nveegle1 10-19-2007 03:14 AM

Drats!!
 
And double drats!! This is the second coolest thing I've seen so far, Lazyboy had the first "pimpin out" - he was the first thing I saw, since I signed up and the links don't work anymore! I'm just in an endless loop of tease, tease, tease!

storyr 10-19-2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Woo (Post 102725)
Your theme & icons are extremely fantastic. I love it so much.

The one problem is that I can't see the current / forecast temperature.

Are there anyone who can help me with it?

Sam - Can you elaborate or post a screen shot that illustrates the problem?

JClay 10-19-2007 10:36 AM

... S W E E T ! ! !

habib0712 10-19-2007 11:09 AM

There is not a theme in existence that comes anywhere close to how good this is. Excellent, excellent work.

One wish though: if only the buttons on the radar image could be made bigger so I don't need the stylus to use them.

BlackDog 10-19-2007 01:31 PM

I love it! Is there any way to turn off the beep that sounds when I click on the icons, though? I couldn't find a setting in WP for that.

storyr 10-19-2007 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JClay (Post 102808)
... S W E E T ! ! !

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by habib0712 (Post 102826)
There is not a theme in existence that comes anywhere close to how good this is. Excellent, excellent work.

One wish though: if only the buttons on the radar image could be made bigger so I don't need the stylus to use them.

Wow - I appreciate that! As far as your wish: I'm working at that - maybe this weekend. Someone suggested enlarging only the zoom in, zoom out and play buttons (leave the others small) - thus covering less of the image. What are your thoughts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDog (Post 102879)
I love it! Is there any way to turn off the beep that sounds when I click on the icons, though? I couldn't find a setting in WP for that.

Thanks. No, as far as I know, there's no way to turn off that beep :silent:

Torx 10-20-2007 06:26 AM

is there a way to speed up the button press/transition?? its kinda slow and id like it to be a little more snappy..

great work, still lovin it! makes life easier!

Pibe38 10-20-2007 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torx (Post 103223)
is there a way to speed up the button press/transition?? its kinda slow and id like it to be a little more snappy..

great work, still lovin it! makes life easier!

I think that's just how WP works.


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