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The titan is capable of something as simple as a texture-mapped spinning sphere in Windows Mobile as well. In fact, if you've ever tried to run Quake on your Titan, you'll find that you can have smooth graphics with far more polygons on the screens before it starts to slow down, and simple 3D games like Wolf3d and Duke Nukem actually play as smoothly as they did on PC. check out this video from the Tilt playing these games: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jBQco1NoE7Y&feature=related Remember, the tilt has the same CPU speed and hardware acceleration problems as the titan due to the Qualcomm chipset. That spinning globe proves NOTHING, sadly. In fact, if you touch the screen while spinning it, you'll notice that the display slows down to almost a crawl (a problem with our device drivers that was demonstrated at HTC Class Action's website by playing Quake with touchscreen controls). You have to remember that Android/Linux here needs Windows Mobile to run, which means that it is relying on certain underlying components like the SD driver, Sound driver, input and display drivers, etc... So since there aren't HW accelerated drivers for WM, Android won't "magically" have them. Quote:
(On a side note, I played with a Treo 800w for a day to do a review on the device, and I have to say I forgot how smooth WM can be with properly configured HW and SW) Then again, if we had proper hardware acceleration available, we could apply the same thing to WM and the whole thing would really be a moot point...
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Android does not rely on any underlying Windows drivers. The whole purpose of HaRET is to knock Windows out of memory entirely and dedicate the entire device to Android or a linux distro.
The reason the globe slows down is because its kinetic..... not because of touchscreen lag. If you touch the globe to the right of the center (remember, our screens aren't perfectly aligned) and don't move the stylus at all (takes a second to get it right), there is no screen jumpiness like you get in WinMo with graphics and the touchscreen.
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sorry. didnt c it. was doing my good for the day though. i like to research everything b4 i say n e thing . sorry for the toe-stepping 0-)
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if you press the left arrow and m wile veiwing the today screen it gives you the option of background settings but says the action is not supported if you press it in contacts you get the option of new contact or dialer if you press it wile on the dialer you get the option of clear all recent calls or veiw contacts if you press it wilein the browser u get the options goto, bookmarks, windows, history, refresh, and more. thats all ive found so far
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I admit I'm not familiar with all of the internal workings of HaRet, but Linux doesn't magically have support for our hardware, the code has to be taken from somewhere. It is my belief that this was built around the drivers available for the Vogue, which would imply that they have the same limitations and problems as the originals. I am aware of the "kinetic" nature of the globe. You misunderstood me. If the globe smoothly ran slowly, I'd agree with you. But the frame rate slows down, not the globe- that is, you start skipping frames almost to the point that it becomes a slide show (3 frames per second maybe) until you let go of the screen. Then the framerate picks up. That's a driver error that's been existant since HTC started using the new Qualcomm chips, and has been documented on various sites and blogs regarding the acceleration problems. |
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dishe - my Android test does not have a framerate drop when I touch the screen with my stylus, at least not to something like 3 FPS. I know the framerate drop you speak of but its nowhere near as dire on my device. By the way, I've seen this activity on every touchscreen device in existence in one form or another. The touchscreen takes up a fair amount of CPU cycles and naturally will slow everything down when its being used.
And no, HaRET knocks Windows Mobile and all of its drivers out of RAM and fires up a linux kernel. I've built an Android kernel from the ground up and it specifically asks you what support to build - Ie., MSM7500 chipset, touch screen, etc. All of the drivers that run Android are true linux drivers and Qualcomm and Google have worked together to bring about the drivers along with additions from the Android developer community. Remember that demo device that Qualcomm was showing off at CTIA running Android? |
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keep up the good effort guys...i have it running on my mogul/titan alsoHopefully someone can get the hardbuttons working correctly.
It's nice to have an alternative to WM |
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what programs are you using to edit these linux config files?
I'm running Ubuntu in tandem with Vista so I may be able to check them out. |
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