Omnia vs. Iphone

[aleis]

dude your battery last two hours!
TWO HOURS!
your stuck with whatever apple gives you AND you have to pay for it.
i mean...if that what you really wanna do...

my sammy o is perfect!
im actually mad i dont have anything else to customize.
its perfect...once i have gps that will bring it back to life.
the iphone is toooo restricting..
too..bland!
im tired of seeing that same screen.
BORING!

check out my baby!

[Adrynalyne]

Both phones target different audiences. That said, every complaint you have given so far can be addressed. In regards to the screen locking on dialing...unless you are dialing 1 digit every few seconds, it doesn't become an issue until you are using a system that requires more input or an extension to be dialed. In those cases, you can press one extra key (just one) and continue on your way, or disable it altogether in the registry. WinMo devices are not for the technically inept, imo. I'd daresay that WinMo isn't really game friendly, either. My phone isn't a toy, though. If I want a gaming system, I will get a PSP or DS, and both of those beat the crap out of the iPhone for gaming.

The issue with google maps is not within Samsung, Verizon, or Microsoft's control.



I tell you what drives me nuts mostly about the iPhone, is the need to hack it, just to be able to install other applications besides what Daddy, I mean Steve Jobs, allows you to.

[Adrynalyne]

I have a question. Can the iPhone tether to a computer via wifi?

My Omnia can. How many different browsers can the iPhone use? What about shells? Different dialers? What about the ability to create and edit Office documents in OOXML format? How is the landscape keyboard? MicroSD support? Camera flash? Can you overclock it? Can you customize the ROM and roll your own version?

I truly don't know, so if you could address these questions, that would be great.

I dont think anyone can deny that Apple has one hell of a device in the iPhone, but it does have its shortcomings, like anything else. Would I say the Omnia is better? No. Would I say the Omnia can do more? Depends on what you use it for. As I said, different strokes...

I don't even think the Omnia was touted as an iPhone killer other than by reviewers? It seems like every touchscreen phone has to be an iPhone killer or clone. The iPhone was not even the first touchscreen only phone.

[peenuckle23]

[quote=doseman;613355]First to answer the question as to why I posted in this forum. I like many of you, resisted the notion of getting an apple device , really just because I decided in my own mind that I didn't want to "jump on the bandwagon" with everyone else.

I thought I would share my thoughts with everyone, now that I finally conceded that if you can't beat them, join them (and the fact that I'm happy i did).

Regarding 'customization' , yes Winmo seems more customizeable, but you really shouldn't have to spend all day "Customizing" the phone and trying to make it more finger friendly.

The battery is a good point, but I'll cross that bridge probably next year.

Regarding AT&T - I thought the same thing about the network shortcomings, but I live in Atlanta and frequently travel the east coast on business.
In Atlanta since I've had the phone (4 days now) , I haven't had a single dropped call yet. That being said, we'll see how well the network works as I travel.

Regarding the phone itself. The phone keypad makes the iphone much easier and more intuitive. I asked my wife to pick up the Iphone and make a phonecall. She did it on the first go. This was not tha case with the Omnia. During the same exercise on the omnia she needed to hit (#) and the in-call lock and little tiny 'keypad' in the bottom menu definately perplexed and frustrated her (to which she replied, "why does this thing have to be so complicated?"
Lastly, I would like to add that the Omnia's voicemail and missed call notification is also very poor. On the Omnia, I frequently missed that I had pending voicemails. Huge design flaw.
This is why I ask the same question back to you "What good is a phone if you can't use it as such?"

Again , I am not trying to aggravate anyone, but simply voice an opinion which I thought others may find interesting. This is after all , a 'forum'.[/quote

sorry im way off, im a driver and got an itouch to kill time, you know play games and what not, but when it came down to get a phone touch pro all the way

[doseman]

Originally Posted by Adrynalyne

Both phones target different audiences. That said, every complaint you have given so far can be addressed. In regards to the screen locking on dialing...unless you are dialing 1 digit every few seconds, it doesn't become an issue until you are using a system that requires more input or an extension to be dialed. In those cases, you can press one extra key (just one) and continue on your way, or disable it altogether in the registry. WinMo devices are not for the technically inept, imo.

The issue with google maps is not within Samsung, Verizon, or Microsoft's control.

Regarding the comment "If I want a gaming system, I will get a PSP or DS, and both of those beat the crap out of the iPhone for gaming."
I invite you to read this which just so happens to be an article which pretty much clinched my decision to buy the iphone http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/goodbye-sony-psp/1276225
When waiting for an airplane, I also dont want to be carrying around a nintendo DS or PSP. I'm a dork, but I'm also a busioness proferssional and I draw the line at carrying around a portable gaming system on top of my phone, laptop, and mp3 player. It is a double standard I know, but I also feel much more comfortable/adult sitting in an airport using my phone to play such games. (rather than a PSP or DS)
Besides the phone itself, I should add again that the Microsoft Echange application also works much better (and is more finger friendly) on the iphone.

Just clarify - To unlock the Omni'as in-call lock (for number entry)- 2 buttons need to be pressed. The unlock buttoin and THEN the 'keypad' menu bar needs to be selected. Very annoying when checking voicemail (to have to do this every time).

Having to disable the lock in the Omnia's registry along with all the other issues I've mentioned (which 'can be addressed') gets tiring.
Again, I though my comments would be helpful to those considering the Omnia. - It appears you have to change every default (The Alarm, The keyboard, the lock, the widgets, etc) on the phone to get it to be usable.

If customizing a phone is what your into, than maybe the Omnia is a perfect fit for you.
However It seems that if USING the phone is more of a priority to you, that the Iphone may be a better fit.

[aleis]

Originally Posted by doseman

If customizing a phone is what your into, than maybe the Omnia is a perfect fit for you.

exactly what we are saying!

Originally Posted by doseman

However It seems that if USING the phone is more of a priority to you, that the Iphone may be a better fit.

we sadly do not agree, att network sucks!
plus...POOR battery life!
ugh!
on average im getting 2 days battery.
idk...my gphone and iphone coworkers are too jealous of my phone for me to be interested in theres.

[Adrynalyne]

Once again, different strokes. What you consider usable, is not what another considers to be the same.


The Omnia works fine out of the box for many, but certainly not everyone. As for Exchange support, I think that there are some fairly large disagreements there. Without Mobile Me, you have no Exchange support. In fact, when Mobile Me first came out and for a while, it was a joke. I am sure it is better now.

My wife deplores touchscreen phones. In her opinion, if you want real usability, get yourself a smart phone that is non-touch. Everyone has different needs, abilities, and desires. There is no blanket statement for what is best, and what is most usable. As for games...once again, different strokes. I think people playing games on any device in public looks unprofessional, and silly, so meh.

Back to what I originally said, what are you trying to accomplish here? You no longer use an Omnia, but an iPhone. Plenty of iPhone forums out there, why choose this one to debate? Is there a point to the debate? You have already made up your mind. Are you simply trying to divert people from getting or using an Omnia? I really don't understand. I came from an LG Dare, and the Omnia smacks it around. But I have not once gone to an LG Dare forum to express my feelings or gloat about it.

[blasphemous_prime]

And this is also posted in the wrong forum as I'll move it to Phone Comparison.

[Adrynalyne]

If customizing a phone is what your into, than maybe the Omnia is a perfect fit for you.

I just wanted to touch on this for a second. This is a lot like Windows, vs. OS X, vs. Gnu/Linux.

All can be used to get the job done. What people are "into" generally decides what people will choose. MANY choose Gnu/Linux not because its user friendly, or usable out of the box, but because they can customize and tinker and make it what they want. Others choose OS X because it is very attractive and user friendly. Then there are those that choose Windows because it offers a compromise of both, and there is a lot of software support. I think that is very similar to the discussion here.

[pdub73]

Doseman
I've been reading your posts and for one I still don't understand ur reasons for posting ur negative opinions about a phone you no longer have...in a forum you no longer need to visit...
I am by no means a hater, I like the Iphone, but I don't like its lack of MMS, tethering, landscape keyboard, Flash with the camera, upgradeable memory uo to 24gigs with the Omnia that's pretty close to a 32 gig Iphone...
its just not a "customizable" phone...it is what it is ever going to be right out of the box...nothing more...

Not so with the Omnia or other "Real" Pocket Pc's, I had an XV 6800(loved it) and it could do anything the I phone could do...with the exception of things that needed an accelerometer...when I switched to the Omnia I didn't go to the Titan Forum and tell everyone that I moved to a better phone and so on...

You bought the Omnia because the truth is you ALWAYS wanted an Iphone, you read somewhere it is an "Iphone killer", so u ran to go get it, for someone that's says you're a business man, that's not a good way to do business (just a joke, relax) anyway so with your heart set on an Iphone you grab the Omnia, and without truly giving the Omnia a chance (3 weeks is nothing) you run for what u wanted the whole time...that's fine, but for the rest of us willing to be patient and wait for the software to be tested and developed for the Omnia, we would much rather you just say..."thank you to those who tried to help me with my Omnia but I decided to get an Iphone" or say nothing at all and move on...don't come here and use gaming and the stylus and your arguments for why not to get the Omnia.
Real Pocket Pc users all know the WinMo has some screens that from time to time require a stylus, the Omnia is not for you plain and simple...WinMo is too complex for you...the challenge and satisfaction of customizing ur PPC is not a priority to you...you enjoy being just like everyone else, I just feel the Iphone is a kids toy...used for games, music, and movies...it is cool but I'm not a kid anymore.