Will Windows Mobile Be There In The Future?

[Whosdaman]

Originally Posted by Young_breedent

There will be ads for anything that the person creating the app wants to put in there. Not just google ads. They pay google for the advertisement though. And your reason for believing that google will succeed is my exact reason for believing windows will succeed. They have the money to do so.

Google has more than Microsoft will ever have now.....idk why you back Microsoft so much, but ever since Bill Gates left it which was around 2005 (I know you'll say he retire last year or some crap, but if you really read around he started his retirement in 2005, he didn't even work on Vista....the new CEO was the one in charge of it, Bill Gates last worked on XP and that was it) I stopped liking Windows as much as I did. They have lost alot alot of money off stuff they have produced, but they can afford to do so....but Google is coming in with this new OS that has alot more firepower and wealth then Microsoft does, and with a Community that can support it, unlike WM, it will continue to become the best....thats my prediction

Also all of you, especially you Young.....if you haven't been looking around at the Rumored WM7 images, it incorporates nothing about 6.5....

What's the difference between 6.1 and 6.5?
1. Today Screen - Well WM7 got rid of it
2. Enlarge Start Menu - Again, they changed it
3. Finger Friendly Menu Popups - Well wasn't this expected in WM7?
4. New Look - Pfft....please WM7 has an entirely different look so 6.5 is irrelevant
5. O last but not least, Stability and Speed - Yea right, 6.1 is more stable then that (I know it's a beta) but WM7 is an entirely different SYS

So really...the main differences in 6.5 and 6.1 are not even in WM7, so what is the point? Since you say that 6.5 is incorporated in 7?

[mlin]

Originally Posted by Whosdaman

What's the difference between 6.1 and 6.5?
1. Today Screen - Well WM7 got rid of it
2. Enlarge Start Menu - Again, they changed it
3. Finger Friendly Menu Popups - Well wasn't this expected in WM7?
4. New Look - Pfft....please WM7 has an entirely different look so 6.5 is irrelevant
5. O last but not least, Stability and Speed - Yea right, 6.1 is more stable then that (I know it's a beta) but WM7 is an entirely different SYS

So really...the main differences in 6.5 and 6.1 are not even in WM7, so what is the point? Since you say that 6.5 is incorporated in 7?

I personally dont think that 6.5 was ever supposed to be a preivew to WM7, rather just a release to tithe people over until 7 is released. With the complete rewriting of WM, it is unlikely that it will be fully functional on our devices. However, 6.5 is. And it serves its purpose well to increase usability and friendliness of the WM UI.

Personally I like 6.5 and I think it is an indication that MS is headed in the right direction. I do not think that 6.5 is a giany leap by any means, (and it was never meant to be) but it is definitely a couple steps in the right direction. I think WM will be fine in the future and has the potential to be great. The release of WM7 is a 'make it or break it' sort of thing and MS knows this. If WM7 is a bust, MS will lose consumer interest and support for some time. I don't think it will be a bust though. As long as MS implements all of the things that make WM the best platform available while making it accessible through a ridiculously easy UI, WM will be just fine.

I think that a large factor in determining the success of WM7 will be marketing and the ability to attract develpers which, in some sense, will go hand in hand. Good marketing --> large attraction of consumers and developers. I think the freedom of developing whatever you want for WM will provide great attraction as long as the devices will sell. As far as marketing, this is huge. The iPhone is a huge success partially because it is a great phone, but more so because Crapple did a phenomenal job marketing the phone. They lead the public to believe that the iPhone was the first phone to play music view YouTube and many other things. Windows needs to market on this level and now has the added challange pulling consumers away from the iPhone (pre smree, android smandroid)

Anyhow, this is a long post so I will stop writing now.

[Whosdaman]

Originally Posted by mlin

I personally dont think that 6.5 was ever supposed to be a preivew to WM7, rather just a release to tithe people over until 7 is released. With the complete rewriting of WM, it is unlikely that it will be fully functional on our devices. However, 6.5 is. And it serves its purpose well to increase usability and friendliness of the WM UI.

Personally I like 6.5 and I think it is an indication that MS is headed in the right direction. I do not think that 6.5 is a giany leap by any means, (and it was never meant to be) but it is definitely a couple steps in the right direction. I think WM will be fine in the future and has the potential to be great. The release of WM7 is a 'make it or break it' sort of thing and MS knows this. If WM7 is a bust, MS will lose consumer interest and support for some time. I don't think it will be a bust though. As long as MS implements all of the things that make WM the best platform available while making it accessible through a ridiculously easy UI, WM will be just fine.

I think that a large factor in determining the success of WM7 will be marketing and the ability to attract develpers which, in some sense, will go hand in hand. Good marketing --> large attraction of consumers and developers. I think the freedom of developing whatever you want for WM will provide great attraction as long as the devices will sell. As far as marketing, this is huge. The iPhone is a huge success partially because it is a great phone, but more so because Crapple did a phenomenal job marketing the phone. They lead the masses to believe that the iPhone was the first phone to play music view YouTube and many other things. Windows needs to market on this level and now has the challange of convincing the masses to take another look at WM.

Anyhow, this is a long post so I will stop writing now.

See I never said 6.5 was, but anyways it is so true, when the iPhone first came out the marketed it like it was the first Touch Screen phone....and it wasn't

Have you ever noticed that there is not 1 commercial for a WM Device? Amazing right? Just imagin how well HTC and other WM devices would be is they commercialized them...instead the carriers just publicize their Dumbphones: I.E. Sprint's Instinct, Verizon's Storm, Alltel's Razr, and AT&T's iPhone

[mlin]

Originally Posted by Whosdaman

See I never said 6.5 was, but anyways it is so true, when the iPhone first came out the marketed it like it was the first Touch Screen phone....and it wasn't

Have you ever noticed that there is not 1 commercial for a WM Device? Amazing right? Just imagin how well HTC and other WM devices would be is they commercialized them...instead the carriers just publicize their Dumbphones: I.E. Sprint's Instinct, Verizon's Storm, Alltel's Razr, and AT&T's iPhone

I think its tough for WM to actually market a device since there are like a million different phones which support the platform. MS move to increase the minimum hardware requirements for a WM7 phone is a smart one. If they can limit the amount of phones running WM7 that are on the market, they will be able to advertise more universally; and consistency in WM7 devies will be universal across the board. Granted, we'll have less phones to play with, but the one's we will have will all be phenomenal and on par with each other, (no more will there exist drastic differences between WM devices such as the TP vs the Mogul on WM6.1).

And yeah, I know sooooo many people who think that the iPhone was the first phone ever to support a touch screen.

[codybear]

Originally Posted by Whosdaman

Eh....I mentioned everything didn't I?

(I was meaning within the last 2 pages , I've been talking about Android)

hahaha. well you didn't say that.

Originally Posted by racemepls

wow everyone in this thread is going to be a vip by the time its over

lol, no joke.

Originally Posted by mlin

I personally dont think that 6.5 was ever supposed to be a preivew to WM7, rather just a release to tithe people over until 7 is released. With the complete rewriting of WM, it is unlikely that it will be fully functional on our devices. However, 6.5 is. And it serves its purpose well to increase usability and friendliness of the WM UI.

Personally I like 6.5 and I think it is an indication that MS is headed in the right direction. I do not think that 6.5 is a giany leap by any means, (and it was never meant to be) but it is definitely a couple steps in the right direction. I think WM will be fine in the future and has the potential to be great. The release of WM7 is a 'make it or break it' sort of thing and MS knows this. If WM7 is a bust, MS will lose consumer interest and support for some time. I don't think it will be a bust though. As long as MS implements all of the things that make WM the best platform available while making it accessible through a ridiculously easy UI, WM will be just fine.

I think that a large factor in determining the success of WM7 will be marketing and the ability to attract develpers which, in some sense, will go hand in hand. Good marketing --> large attraction of consumers and developers. I think the freedom of developing whatever you want for WM will provide great attraction as long as the devices will sell. As far as marketing, this is huge. The iPhone is a huge success partially because it is a great phone, but more so because Crapple did a phenomenal job marketing the phone. They lead the public to believe that the iPhone was the first phone to play music view YouTube and many other things. Windows needs to market on this level and now has the added challange pulling consumers away from the iPhone (pre smree, android smandroid)

Anyhow, this is a long post so I will stop writing now.

too long of a post to read all of it, haha, but I agree to the first third of it I read.

Originally Posted by mlin

I think its tough for WM to actually market a device since there are like a million different phones which support the platform. MS move to increase the minimum hardware requirements for a WM7 phone is a smart one. If they can limit the amount of phones running WM7 that are on the market, they will be able to advertise more universally; and consistency in WM7 devies will be universal across the board. Granted, we'll have less phones to play with, but the one's we will have will all be phenomenal and on par with each other, (no more will there exist drastic differences between WM devices such as the TP vs the Mogul on WM6.1).

And yeah, I know sooooo many people who think that the iPhone was the first phone ever to support a touch screen.

yes and no. I agree to most, but they should still advertise more than the nothing that they do now. haha.
But I do agree with the less phones how it would be easier for them to advertise, but still, they should be able to still advertise.

And I know sooooo many that think the Iphone was the first for tons of things when it really was not.

[mlin]

Originally Posted by codybear

yes and no. I agree to most, but they should still advertise more than the nothing that they do now. haha.
But I do agree with the less phones how it would be easier for them to advertise, but still, they should be able to still advertise.

I totally agree. I never meant to imply that I thought they should not advertise at all. Even with the phones they have now, they could market very well to a variety of audiences. Why don't they? Who the eff knows!

Oh, and read the last 2/3 and let me know what you think of the rest.

[codybear]

Originally Posted by jake044

lol i think your guys arguments are funny

Originally Posted by mlin

I personally dont think that 6.5 was ever supposed to be a preivew to WM7, rather just a release to tithe people over until 7 is released. With the complete rewriting of WM, it is unlikely that it will be fully functional on our devices. However, 6.5 is. And it serves its purpose well to increase usability and friendliness of the WM UI.

Personally I like 6.5 and I think it is an indication that MS is headed in the right direction. I do not think that 6.5 is a giany leap by any means, (and it was never meant to be) but it is definitely a couple steps in the right direction. I think WM will be fine in the future and has the potential to be great. The release of WM7 is a 'make it or break it' sort of thing and MS knows this. If WM7 is a bust, MS will lose consumer interest and support for some time. I don't think it will be a bust though. As long as MS implements all of the things that make WM the best platform available while making it accessible through a ridiculously easy UI, WM will be just fine.

I think that a large factor in determining the success of WM7 will be marketing and the ability to attract develpers which, in some sense, will go hand in hand. Good marketing --> large attraction of consumers and developers. I think the freedom of developing whatever you want for WM will provide great attraction as long as the devices will sell. As far as marketing, this is huge. The iPhone is a huge success partially because it is a great phone, but more so because Crapple did a phenomenal job marketing the phone. They lead the public to believe that the iPhone was the first phone to play music view YouTube and many other things. Windows needs to market on this level and now has the added challange pulling consumers away from the iPhone (pre smree, android smandroid)

Anyhow, this is a long post so I will stop writing now.

okay, I agree with the second third of it.
the last part I partially agree with.
Mainly the part about the iphone being a "great" phone.
hahahahahahahaha. granted it is ALOT better now,
and isn't too bad of a choice thanks to the 3.0 OS.
But.......looking at the first two version and up to about a month ago when 3.0 came out, it was a horrible phone and only sold due to the product placements and EXTREMELY overdone advertising/brainwashing that apple had done.
But other than that, I agree 100% with your post.

[Young_breedent]

Originally Posted by Whosdaman

Google has more than Microsoft will ever have now.....idk why you back Microsoft so much, but ever since Bill Gates left it which was around 2005 (I know you'll say he retire last year or some crap, but if you really read around he started his retirement in 2005, he didn't even work on Vista....the new CEO was the one in charge of it, Bill Gates last worked on XP and that was it) I stopped liking Windows as much as I did. They have lost alot alot of money off stuff they have produced, but they can afford to do so....but Google is coming in with this new OS that has alot more firepower and wealth then Microsoft does, and with a Community that can support it, unlike WM, it will continue to become the best....thats my prediction

Also all of you, especially you Young.....if you haven't been looking around at the Rumored WM7 images, it incorporates nothing about 6.5....

What's the difference between 6.1 and 6.5?
1. Today Screen - Well WM7 got rid of it
2. Enlarge Start Menu - Again, they changed it
3. Finger Friendly Menu Popups - Well wasn't this expected in WM7?
4. New Look - Pfft....please WM7 has an entirely different look so 6.5 is irrelevant
5. O last but not least, Stability and Speed - Yea right, 6.1 is more stable then that (I know it's a beta) but WM7 is an entirely different SYS

So really...the main differences in 6.5 and 6.1 are not even in WM7, so what is the point? Since you say that 6.5 is incorporated in 7?

First of all you talk as if you know me which you obviously don't and if me not agreeing with you make me ignorant lol then so be it. You talk as if you have played with Windows Mobile 7. Pictures don't show you how the OS interacts, and how do you know if those pictures are even real. You know just as much about WM 7 as we all do. BARELY ANYTHING. You don't know how the today screen, start menu or any of that stuff will look to even make that arguement. In my opinion thats ignorant. You speaking on something you lack knowledge on. I can just tell you what i think the OS will be. You also have no idea how much i have contributed to this community. Don't let post counts and statuses fool you my friend.

[Whosdaman]

Originally Posted by Young_breedent

First of all you talk as if you know me which you obviously don't and if me not agreeing with you make me ignorant lol then so be it. You talk as if you have played with Windows Mobile 7. Pictures don't show you how the OS interacts, and how do you know if those pictures are even real. You know just as much about WM 7 as we all do. BARELY ANYTHING. You don't know how the today screen, start menu or any of that stuff will look to even make that arguement. In my opinion thats ignorant. You speaking on something you lack knowledge on. I can just tell you what i think the OS will be. You also have no idea how much i have contributed to this community. Don't let post counts and statuses fool you my friend.

lol and you to me have no idea, and if speaking about something I have no idea about it ignorant, then everyone person in here who talks about WM7 is ignorant. Is that what your saying?

[Young_breedent]

Originally Posted by Whosdaman

lol and you to me have no idea, and if speaking about something I have no idea about it ignorant, then everyone person in here who talks about WM7 is ignorant. Is that what your saying?

No because everyone else isn't speaking like they have facts, it's all speculation. You talk like you know facts and as if you have played with and seen WM 7. How do you know what the start menu, home screen or anything else will look like?? You don't so how do you know that some of the stuff incorporated in 6.5 will be dropped and "a waste" as you call it. I have seen many leaked pictures and there has been more then one type of home screen. And to speak on the start menu button you were talking about in the other thread. The button has nothing to do with if the OS can run on the device, it's just a requirment on microsofts end because the button will trigger something in the OS. Like maybe the start menu or something who knows. It may even take you to the market place which i can gurantee you will be in WM 7.