Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 announced by HTC

[PropagandaX]

I cant believe there is already a touch pro2, damn if the old one just came out a few months ago. I love the larger screen!!!

[shadowfender42]

Is it just me or does the Diamond 2 look like the Max 4G?

[racemepls]

no video out? thats bs

[GREY.FOXX]

Ok for me TP2 > TP

Larger Screen > Small Screen

I don't care about Flashlight because I forgot I even had one and it is pointless for me.....Mute Button > Flash

Custom TF3D > Normal TF3D (yes there may be a hack to come but I rather have it ready)

Possible Upgrade to WM 6.5 > Just 6.1

TP2 Keyboard > TP Crammy Keyboard

Tilt Screen > Basic (sure why not have the tilt)

Issues others pointed out and my take on it

Weak Camera - for me I can care less, I never even took a pic with my camera, cell cameras always suck to me, and I find it easier just to have a handy digital cam with me

Battery Life - Sucks, but I have accepted that HTC will always suck when it comes to Battery....so I always buy a extra one.


Yes its a small upgrade (like every other company), but I feel like its time for a larger screen and a real full touch screen (DPAD sucks to me). So The larger screen, Better Keyboard,Zoom feature,Custom TF3D,Better Speaker Phone (useful I live in NY, use speaker when driving), and the tilt function is worth it for me.

I have to say the TP2 is the land mark for me, so if the TP3 comes with just minor upgrades I will kindly wait for the TP4 of whatever is next, but I have to get rid of the lame small screens, crammy keyboards, DPAD and feel like I finally have a real touch screen phone.

So After TP2, HTC better come harder.

[Snoman002]

Whats funny is that you outlined nearly everything I was thinking, just in inverse.

Originally Posted by GREY.FOXX

Ok for me TP2 > TP

Larger Screen > Small Screen
Small Screen >Large Screen
Since the TP hardware can hardly support video whats the point of trying to do it on more pixels. I dont need to see my pictures or contacts that much better. Sure, web use would be a little nicer, but its only less zooming, not getting rid of zooming altogether. Not to mention how much bigger it makes the phone.

I don't care about Flashlight because I forgot I even had one and it is pointless for me.....Mute Button > Flash
Eih, a little backlighting might make a couple more usable pictures, but yeah, minor point. Toss-up IMO.

Custom TF3D > Normal TF3D (yes there may be a hack to come but I rather have it ready)
Custom TF3D = Normal TF3D
The custom mods to TF3D make it look so much better, similar things will be true of the new version as well. And heck, making it your own is half the fun. The landscape TF is SWEET though.

Possible Upgrade to WM 6.5 > Just 6.1
WM6.5 = WM6.1
IMO NBD, WM7 is the one I'm looking for anyways. Plus TF3D makes WM6.1 look pretty anyways, its just he back end that is still fugly. So TF3D or WM6.5, personally I prefer the look of TF over even 6.5, and you still need the stylus for many WM apps so its not like WM6.5 would allow you to ditch that little piece of hardware.

TP2 Keyboard > TP Crammy Keyboard
Well, I dont think I could disagree with you on this one

Tilt Screen > Basic (sure why not have the tilt)
It might be a nice feature, I couldnt tell you.

Issues others pointed out and my take on it

Weak Camera - for me I can care less, I never even took a pic with my camera, cell cameras always suck to me, and I find it easier just to have a handy digital cam with me
For me, I never have a camera when I want one. Granted, I could carry a cam with me everywhere I went, but thats just one more expensive thing to loose.

Battery Life - Sucks, but I have accepted that HTC will always suck when it comes to Battery....so I always buy a extra one.
From what I hear thats too true. Then again, with some of the battery tweaks that are out, it would suck to not make it that last hour of the day because of that .8 more screen.


Yes its a small upgrade (like every other company), but I feel like its time for a larger screen and a real full touch screen (DPAD sucks to me). So The larger screen, Better Keyboard,Zoom feature,Custom TF3D,Better Speaker Phone (useful I live in NY, use speaker when driving), and the tilt function is worth it for me.

I have to say the TP2 is the land mark for me, so if the TP3 comes with just minor upgrades I will kindly wait for the TP4 of whatever is next, but I have to get rid of the lame small screens, crammy keyboards, DPAD and feel like I finally have a real touch screen phone.

So After TP2, HTC better come harder.

Not being argumentative, just using your views as a counterpoint to mine since they were very similar, just opposite.

For me I can only justify the cost if it fills some blanks, or makes my travels lighter. The TP might do that for me, a quick anytime camera (you need a camera less when you decied to bring one then when you forget it at home), a video playback machine (airports, hotel rooms), and a web browser (bringing a laptop into the head is a PITA). I understand it wont do all of these things well, but why go for just a bigger screen if it means sacrifices on many of the other things, video playback is bad already and it will only get worse, battery life will only be worse, web browsing will be marginally better (only marginally), and, well, a toss up on the camera.

IMO, a bigger screen is a minor upgrade, kinda like a new grill on a pickup truck. Heck, that might be why its called the Pro2 as opposed to something completely different. Think of this as not a new phone (6mo after the last one was released!?) but as a face lift to a current phone while they ready new ones. Hopefully the face lift included some software as well.

I do hope the TP2 comes to sprint though. Because that means the TP might go down in price due to demand dropping as everybody waits on the TP2.

BTW, spelling errors are actually copywrite protection .

[GREY.FOXX]

As far as the camera goes, I can go without a camera, I hate phone cameras, and if I don't have a digital cam on me to take a pic, I will just not take the pic. When I say I hate them, I really hate them, the quality always sucks so I don't look at the camera much.

Battery life will always suck, and after dealing with the mogul and the TP, im know to be prepared lol. HTC just sucks in that department.

The big screen is needed to me because, to me, we are in the time where finger friendly should be everywhere. Thats why I hope WM 6.5 will be available for this. When you are near a Touch HD and a Touch Pro you will see man the screen is just sexy big. You see things better and more.

Screen is a big issue to me. I hated the DPAD thing I felt last gen, then someone with a IPHONE comes with a big sexy screen making everything look great pissed me off lol.

Also the keyboard is something I look forward to, not to mention that conference call feature, that is sick.

so its what ever works for you, but I don't see why some people in here just automatically diss this phone, also I never heard of flash being such a big deal, but I guess it is.

I want a TP2 or I may wait and look at the Snagdragon or Toshiba TG01.


You are right its more of a face lift, and like I said after this HTC must come harder for me to buy it.

[M2Iceman]

I like the Diamond but was WOW when I saw the Pre for what the OS can do and some of the little features that it has. Until the Diamond 2 gives me that WOW feeling, I'll be getting the Pre.

3.5mm jake is a killer for me, I hate the Diamond headset connection. Nowadays there is no reason a phone not to have the proper headphone jake. Even with custom roms I still have freezing and slow downs. Add a bigger screen, yeah, more of the same. Although I have to give it that thebattery tweaks have def saved me the aggrevation of getting a new battery. Wow me HTC, then I'll gladly buy one for me and my wife, until then the Pre is in my sights.

[boomhower]

Its a pass for me. I am waiting for some more oomph in the CPU department. Even with all the custom ROMS and other mods my Diamond still feels sluggish. Add a higher res display and the problem is just compounded. I do really like the look of both of them though. Hopefully they have something better planned for the fall. (in the rumored snapgradon variety)

[unclutchable]

I just got this damn Diamond. I need money.

[GREY.FOXX]

the pre is nice but the look of the phone just.....i dunno