i realized how much i love my touch after buying an iphone.

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My beef with Apple is this:

1. Their interface is easier not b/c it's better but b/c it lacks features. It's stripped down and dumbed down. That's why it looks easier.
2. Their refusal to include a keyboard is dumb or even more than one button. Tell me how having dedicated call/end buttons and a d-pad would confuse the consumer or take away from the multi-touch concept? I think it's just stubborness.
3. Their hardware is often good but much of it is advertising. They are saying now they're going to add cut and paste as if it is a nice feature that they are kindly adding on. Cut and paste should be standard. It's the way they spin things. They're great salesman and great at industrial design, but it's their advertisers that should get the kudos.
4. They operate on a closed system. The official line is that the more people they allow to program, the more that bugs can be introduced. In other words, they know better than us plebians. This is the reason I can't support the iPhone. The software community is moving towards open source and they are not. They charge for a google maps upgrade to the iphone, which they have every right to do. Unfortunately, their competitors don't do that. Does MSN Live search mobile charge? Isn't google maps free? Doesn't outlook come with a pocket pc phone? Their policies aren't very customer-friendly or loyalty-inducing.

Originally Posted by eduardmc

this is what i did, i called a few stores and they required a new contract. i called to a store that i knew have some left and spoke to a girl, told here i wanted to buy it has a gift for my girl and that if it was possible, she said "no problem" and i asked for her name. went to the store and asked for her, u brought out the iphone and the manager came saying that i need a new contract, she explained my situation and he told me to make sure she activated the phone within 14 days, (suckers) they only asked for my email address. so now i have a 1.1.4 unlock version ready for resale. This refurbish phone look completly new never use, not a single scratch and everything included. it even come with the tape that cover the screen.

Refurbs are usually brand new. They call them refurbs for tax purposses. I know a guy that worked for toshiba and he explained that there refurbs were actually new most of the time but were labled as refurbs for tax purposses and they usually didn't come in a retail box. Just my experience....