in responce to the driver problem we have

[Genjinaro]

Originally Posted by dew.man

- has anyone actually tried the fix proposed by the OP, or did we all just jump on the soap box?

Yeah I'm waiting on a confirmation here. Or the 1st guinea pig.

BTW this whole thread has had my jaw gaping.
I honestly can't believe HTC is getting end user defense here with this issue. Many recent HTC devices are having the same driver issue, there is simply no valid excuse for it. Not only was it not physically obvious. It was nether stated in a written omission, spec omission nor an officially announced omission, pre-distribution from HTC or the carriers. Its is also a standard feature.

Its broadly acknowledged as an issue, not a misunderstanding or a multitude of assumptions.

A number of you took this issue on the chin and actually find no fault in it.
Some of you should really look into things like this with shaper eyes. Even if it was accidental, If someone can get over on you to save profit, time and/or effort, they are most likely to take advantage.

Heh, after reading through here IMO, some of you would probably shrug if you bought a qwerty keyboard smartphone only to find it only had those six keys with a 6sec entry delay.

So anyway, who is going to play pioneer with the ATI.cab?

[htcphone]

ati.cab? just try it.

[storino03]

The ati driver fix on xda is for a much older device that isn't the same, so I wouldn't try the driver fix.

--James

[EtherealRemnant]

I just guinea pigged - no difference, as we all thought.

[Genjinaro]

Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant

I just guinea pigged - no difference, as we all thought.

As expected, thanks...

[cbus]

For those of you who are fine with your phones - I'd bet if you had children you were probably ok with your toys being filled with lead paint. The fact is that manufacturers cut corners to make profits all the time. The difference is - what do they do about it when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar? The chinese took back all the toys and made a public apology. It is not part of their culture to do this - they are used to making inferior products and the world has been used to taking it on the chin. When they took back the toys with lead paint it was because of the amount of attention it received - even though the amount of lead paint probably wouldn't have hurt anyone. This was a step in the right direction. Why would we want to go backwards? Backwards in technology - backwards in compatability - backwards in responsibility. Holding people accountable is what makes this a just society. Personally - the responsibility should rest on the shoulders of all parties involved - Microsoft - Sprint - and of course HTC. They all should be trying to find resolution to this problem because we are all customers of their products. Ultimately it rests on HTC - but if I were Microsoft or Sprint - I would also be looking into this to find resolution because it would show us that the word "customer service" means something and might show other cultures the right way to handle situations. My 2 cents!

[eehrhard]

Originally Posted by Genjinaro

Yeah I'm waiting on a confirmation here. Or the 1st guinea pig.

BTW this whole thread has had my jaw gaping.
I honestly can't believe HTC is getting end user defense here with this issue. Many recent HTC devices are having the same driver issue, there is simply no valid excuse for it. Not only was it not physically obvious. It was nether stated in a written omission, spec omission nor an officially announced omission, pre-distribution from HTC or the carriers. Its is also a standard feature.

Its broadly acknowledged as an issue, not a misunderstanding or a multitude of assumptions.

A number of you took this issue on the chin and actually find no fault in it.
Some of you should really look into things like this with shaper eyes. Even if it was accidental, If someone can get over on you to save profit, time and/or effort, they are most likely to take advantage.

Heh, after reading through here IMO, some of you would probably shrug if you bought a qwerty keyboard smartphone only to find it only had those six keys with a 6sec entry delay.

So anyway, who is going to play pioneer with the ATI.cab?

I think you are missing the point some of that were trying to make. There isnt one of that would not like our phones to be more powerful. The point that is being made is that all of you had a chance to play with and test your phone before you committed to it. You must have liked something about it to not return it and get something else. Turning into an anti-HTC lynch mob and getting pissed off about it accomplished nothing. Personally, If the driver comes and imporves my phone in anyway then great. If it never comes I am not going to let it get in the way of a still fantastic phone.

Your statement about the qwerty keyboard is asinine as the phone would not be provided as advertised and would not meet the basic needs of the user. In all likelyhood you were bragging to your friends about how cool your new phone was just a short time ago before all of this came to light. I am certainly not a HTC shill and i have my own issues as I am on my 5th Mogul due to crappy screens. I would much rather them fix that issue to tell you the truth.

Everyone would like this:

With its 1GHZ processor tons of RAM, beautiful Screen, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, TV Tuner etc...

I am just saying that grabbing your pitch forks and getting all pissed off about something you didnt even know existed not too long ago is a waste of your engergy. Sure let HTC know what you would like. And if you dont like HTC, dont buy from them its pretty simple.

[eehrhard]

Originally Posted by cbus

For those of you who are fine with your phones - I'd bet if you had children you were probably ok with your toys being filled with lead paint.

That is a completely ignorant statement. Equating a driver to somehting that can cause you or your children physical harm is really just plain irresponsible.

When this driver being missing from your phone causes you to get a brain tumor and someone defends that then you can come back with silly statements like that. They are just phones people. And damn good ones IMO. You are consumers you have a choice. Go buy an Iphone and enjoy your EDGE data.

[EtherealRemnant]

Originally Posted by eehrhard

That is a completely ignorant statement. Equating a driver to somehting that can cause you or your children physical harm is really just plain irresponsible.

When this driver being missing from your phone causes you to get a brain tumor and someone defends that then you can come back with silly statements like that. They are just phones people. And damn good ones IMO. You are consumers you have a choice. Go buy an Iphone and enjoy your EDGE data.

Its people like you who make the problem worse for us because you just simply don't care and let the company off the hook. If we'd have less consumers like you, we might not get fucked over by big businesses as much anymore.

Those of us who DO stand up and bitch when we've been wronged get completely shutdown due the overwhelming amount of idiots who just take a who cares attitude.

I really don't care if YOU don't care about the problem - that's not the scope of any of the threads that have been made on the board - the scope of these threads is that there IS an issue with these devices and it needs to be fixed.

Those of you that care to run on and on about how they think this whole endeavor is stupid, etc., go make your own thread and stop ruining the threads that are just meant to shed information on this whole thing please. There is some good information between this and my original thread and I'd hate to see them both locked (along with the wealth of information they contain being lost) because they keep running way off topic.

The least you people could do is make a new thread.

[cbus]

@eehrhard

Actually - your ignorant! It wasn't a comparison rather a comment. You should know the difference - or maybe not? The point was that they made it right. Understanding the point makes you able to debate. You obviously need some help in this area. Slow down and understand. I actually love this phone. I also didn't pay to upgrade my phone only to find out it doesn't do what my 6600 did. Touchflo is nice but not that nice and you can put it on older devices so I don't think any of us is out of line when we simply want something to at least be the same as in older technology or hopefully better. Read - Understand - make intelligent comments! And yes - we are consumers - we made a choice to UPGRADE our devices. Get it?