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sj808 11-09-2007 07:32 AM

ok... just after a day of use for the Touch


me personally... Touch>>> Mogul to the 10th power!!

Now I do miss the hard keyboard... but the 128 RAM, better BT, and just a "Stress-free" device makes it better. The reception seems better to me. I get 3G in places I never got 3G before on the Mogul.

I left my AIM on the whole day, consistent usage, have my email checking every hour, a few BT convos... and my battery was still pretty good.

budney 11-09-2007 09:16 AM

I have my Touch comming to day or Monday, but I got to play with one yesterday. I really like it. It is the quickest device I have used since my 700wx. I like the design, the thiness, and the flush screen is awsome. And of course all the things mentioned before make this device worth taking a look at. :)

adhood 11-09-2007 03:47 PM

I have had my Touch for about two days now.
I must say I am in love.

In my opinion

Pros:
-Lightweight
-Thin
-Sexy
-More memory than my 700wx
-Rubbery casing
-BT is great, no more dropping the BT like my Treo
-Sprint TV actually works (right out of the box at that)
-Included case is really nice. (might not have to buy a aftermarket case)
-Lack of buttons (streamlined design)
-Screen is gorgeous. (haven't read the specs but I think that it is a higher resolution than my Treo)
-Camera isn't half bad.

Cons:
-No physical keyboard. (SPB Fullscreen Keyboard makes up for this)
-No physical ringer switch (if you have never used one, shouldn't be an issue)
-Lack of button(s) that can be programmed. (I like the uncluttered look though)
-Micro SD (guess b/c of the size it had to be Micro SD instead of SD)
-Lack of a headphone jack (have to use adapter)
* I use BT exclusively like I figure most of you do
-Attracts fingerprints and grease like a magnet.

M2Iceman 11-09-2007 04:09 PM

Nice!!!
 
I have had mine for about 3 days now and love it. I had the 6700 and bought it because I thought I would use the KB for texting. I used it,(KB) very seldom. I got use to the stylus and after that, i was hooked. I loved the 6700 but felt it was too bulky and was preying for something that could give me no KB, but touchpad and slimmer. I have been reading on the Touch for awhile and saw the videos, but getting it in my habds was all together different. I love it and Im glad I spend the money on it. I can go on about the little things that do annoy me, but I wont. I like the lightweight of it. I like the touvhpad and no KB. I really dont care about the Toughflow and dont see myself using it all too often. The battery life so far, so good. Bluetooth i havent used yet, but I do use it often. I text about 3000 a month and dont mind the small stylus. My preys were answered with this phone and I will forgive any short coming of the phone, I love it

guitardoc64 11-10-2007 01:58 AM

Wow, these are all really positive reviews! I had tanked the touch on the no WiFi, but now I'm thinking again. Good batt life, no BT complaints. Some moans about not having a hardware keyboard. I have used the hardware keyboard very little since getting hooked on touchpal, so that to me is a non issue. I still want to wait a little longer to see what issues may crop up, but this is encouraging...

rijc99 11-10-2007 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pibe38 (Post 117664)
The screen is weird, it has white-ish tone to it unless you are looking at it from an exact 90 degress angle.

OK, I thought it was just my unit... I wish the screen were more like the one from the Mogul.

Nveegle1 11-10-2007 10:57 PM

I thougt it went like, "na na na na naaaah, chooka choo choo choo choo kachoo da da doo doo da doo doo doooo. na na na naaaah..."

guitardoc64 11-11-2007 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rijc99 (Post 118972)
OK, I thought it was just my unit... I wish the screen were more like the one from the Mogul.

It's probably the lauded touch interface, and I'd bet it's because of the higher resolution touch surface. Its denser array reflects light from an angle more. It could also be a security/privacy thing, so others can't make out what's on the screen.

I don't care. I have followed the tales of the misfortunate Mogul, and the Touch, and Touch owners are much happier with the phone, and also considering Sprint's recent troubles and the Mogul update fiasco the Touch looks like the better way to go.

sj808 11-11-2007 07:06 AM

aight... more to add to my impression since its been more days of experience...


The screen sensitivity is better then the Mogul BUT its not perfect (compared to the iPhone). The touch sensitivity on the iPhone to me is flawless. My dad owns one so I play around with it all the time. Someone posted a registry hack to make the touch sensitivity better... I have mine currently at 5800. I'm about to raise it higher just to see if there's a difference.

The 2 key touch keyboard to me is the most annoying thing, especially with the XT9 enabled. I was at work and I accidentally left my AIM logged on. A friend IM'd and I try to type a quick response like "I'm at work, ttyl". But that XT9 kept on changing my words to some non sense. I got PocketCM-keyboard running and I'm fine with that. Its small... but I can deal with it. I wish there was a hack to make that full HTC 26 key password keyboard come up all the time. That would be the ultimate keyboard, its like the PocketCM one but bigger.

Not having WIFI is not that bad. It seems that the radio is alot better on the Touch then the Mogul. In my house, I usually had to turn on the Mogul wifi to stream videos or use Sprint TV... but with the Touch, the reception seems acceptable.

the latest Slide2unlock works very good on the touch. There's a few bugs on it they need to fix... but its still good.

I've had several convos with the BT using the Jabra JX10... flawless! No complaints. With the Mogul, no matter what ROM... it seem like I had to always turn off the BT somewhere in the convo because the receiving side started complaining. I try to beam files from my Mogul to the Touch via BT but couldn't get the phones to recognize each other.. but yet I didn't know exactly what I was doing either.

Even with all the highlights, they could have done better constructing the SD slot. Taking the battery cover off for it is very "what the hell??".

Also, the lack of buttons is hard of getting use to. But if we had tons of button, the whole "Touch" idea would be useless wouldn't it? But if they are going to make it more of a "touch feeling"... then it goes back to my point about the touch sensitivity.

Now only if the Touch had a 800 mhz chip like the iPhone... then this would be the ultimate device. But I still prefer the Touch over the iPhone for its Windows flexibilty. I don't care how much power the iPhone has, until it catches up with other phones with 3rd party apps and 3g... it won't be the "best cellphone ever!".

but back to the topic.... Touch>Mogul, Palms,Sidekicks,etc....

k000 11-11-2007 04:18 PM

"I wish there was a hack to make that full HTC 26 key password keyboard come up all the time. That would be the ultimate keyboard, its like the PocketCM one but bigger."

I totally agree with that. I keep fiddling to try to get that keyboard - it's the most painless

cortez 11-11-2007 04:32 PM

is this the hack you're referring to: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1524215&postcount=25
EDIT: I did a full backup of my registry and also backed up the png, txt, ldb and kdb files from the Touch Windows folder that will be overwritten. using the hack without any problems so far...

kellybrf 11-11-2007 05:55 PM

is there any t9 keyboards available? i know im in the minority, but i much prefer t9 to qwerty. i havent used a xt9/suretype keypad enough to know that i dont like it, but if i could get a t9 keypad it would be perfect

Stoney60 11-13-2007 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimh2k7 (Post 114617)
3) I do like the fact that you can map the extended hang up button hold to lock the device. One less registery tweak to stop Flight mode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpancari (Post 113681)
So im on hold for account services to order the touch, its been 20 minutes and i think ive memorized the whole song they play when your on hold!! it goes like this... chachachacha nanananana nenenenenununununu nanananana nanananananana naaaaaanaaanaa HAHA!!

I have some questions about the Touch...

1.) is flash 7 a must for internet explorer? what browser does it work better with?
2.) does the touch come with MMS? If not, what is the best version i can install?
3.) Is there a screen locking program already built into the phone? (besides device lock)
4.) is the speaker phone and earpiece loud?
5.) does the camera have good picture qaulity?
6.) does microsoft live search work on the touch?

Thats all for now, thanks!!!!!

4) Speaker phone??? What speakerphone? There ain't no speakerphone!

Stoney60 11-13-2007 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adhood (Post 118064)
I have had my Touch for about two days now.
I must say I am in love.

In my opinion

Pros:
-Lightweight
-Thin
-Sexy
-More memory than my 700wx
-Rubbery casing
-BT is great, no more dropping the BT like my Treo
-Sprint TV actually works (right out of the box at that)
-Included case is really nice. (might not have to buy a aftermarket case)
-Lack of buttons (streamlined design)
-Screen is gorgeous. (haven't read the specs but I think that it is a higher resolution than my Treo)
-Camera isn't half bad.

Cons:
-No physical keyboard. (SPB Fullscreen Keyboard makes up for this)
-No physical ringer switch (if you have never used one, shouldn't be an issue)
-Lack of button(s) that can be programmed. (I like the uncluttered look though)
-Micro SD (guess b/c of the size it had to be Micro SD instead of SD)
-Lack of a headphone jack (have to use adapter)
* I use BT exclusively like I figure most of you do
-Attracts fingerprints and grease like a magnet.

The included stereo headset works as a hands free mic too and plugs right into the usb miniport without the adapter. Since the charge is thru the same usb miniport, it's nice to have the adapter to charge and listen at the same time. And if you use bluetooth exclusively, why do you even worry about there not being a separate headphone jack?

My question is is there a 12 volt car charger availalbe?

wickedklown 11-13-2007 04:42 PM

BT Loud?
 
I finally had enough of the BT issues with the Mogul. I see many replies on the connectivity and no choppiness but how is the loudness? Had to turn off my AC (in Arizona thats a deathwish :???:), radio and cup my hand over the jawbone to here something.. This any better? louder headset perhaps?

Pibe38 11-13-2007 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoney60 (Post 120928)
4) Speaker phone??? What speakerphone? There ain't no speakerphone!

Are you joking? Of course the Touch has a speaker phone...

Stoney60 11-13-2007 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pibe38 (Post 121134)
Are you joking? Of course the Touch has a speaker phone...

Joking??? Not I!! Look in the list of features at Sprint. No Speakerphone. Look in the user guide index. No speakerphone. Read the entire guide--no speakerphone.

budney 11-13-2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoney60 (Post 121157)
Joking??? Not I!! Look in the list of features at Sprint. No Speakerphone. Look in the user guide index. No speakerphone. Read the entire guide--no speakerphone.

Documentation can sometimes be wrong. I just listened to my voicemail with the Touch's speakerphone. ;)

Stoney60 11-13-2007 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budney (Post 121162)
Documentation can sometimes be wrong. I just listened to my voicemail with the Touch's speakerphone. ;)

Oh yeah??? Tell me where the speakerphone button is that makes the sound coming out of the speaker in back louder than normal.

storyr 11-13-2007 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoney60 (Post 121165)
Oh yeah??? Tell me where the speakerphone button is that makes the sound coming out of the speaker in back louder than normal.

Someone will probably beat me to this post...

During the call, press Call Status, then Speaker On :scratch:

Stoney60 11-13-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klurf8881 (Post 121167)
dude lose the know it all attitude already when you obviously have no clue what youre talking about. in your dialer make a call, right soft key (menu) select speakerphone on........VOILA

Now you're talking about a soft key that doesn't exist. Another phone perhaps???

EtherealRemnant 11-13-2007 08:33 PM

Stoney, there is a menu option in the dialer... the speakerphone option is in that menu... quit being such a dick.

Stoney60 11-13-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant (Post 121172)
Stoney, there is a menu option in the dialer... the speakerphone option is in that menu... quit being such a dick.

UNCLE!!!!!!

Pibe38 11-13-2007 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoney60 (Post 121157)
Joking??? Not I!! Look in the list of features at Sprint. No Speakerphone. Look in the user guide index. No speakerphone. Read the entire guide--no speakerphone.

I'm not usually rude, but your attitude is just not right. Do you know how to read?

Even without the images as proof, why wouldn't the Touch have a speaker phone when the Mogul, Treo 700wx, and other devices with the same OS have it? Actually, I don't even think there are many phones out there that don't have speaker phone anymore.

So anyway... why do I ask if you know how to read? Look at your quoted statement and the following images:

Screenshot from device
http://home.cfl.rr.com/pibe38/PPC/SpeakerPhone.png

Screenshot of Sprint site
http://home.cfl.rr.com/pibe38/PPC/SpeakerSprintSite.PNG

Screenshot from HTC's site
http://home.cfl.rr.com/pibe38/PPC/SpeakerHTCSite.PNG

Ohhh and on page 42 in section 3 of the User's Guide (Using Phone's Features), there's a section titled: To turn the speakerphone on and off.

So before you go alienating users that have been around for a while with your attitude, I'd do a little research and reading.

biggggant 11-14-2007 12:39 AM

OUCH BURNED hahahahhahaha sorry had to add cause this guy was being a total tool bag a douche nozzle even

Musicman247 11-14-2007 12:43 AM

I have a quick question. The surface of the touch screen, what does it feel like?

Pibe38 11-14-2007 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggggant (Post 121361)
OUCH BURNED hahahahhahaha sorry had to add cause this guy was being a total tool bag a douche nozzle even

It just bothers me when people are rude and have no idea what they are talking about. That attitude was completely unnecessary.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musicman247 (Post 121363)
I have a quick question. The surface of the touch screen, what does it feel like?

I applied the screen protector before even charging the device, I know other users played with the device and applied it later.

The screen feels a little harder than the Mogul's. I actually thought I was doing something wrong becuase finger-scrolling was not working well for me, but it ended up being me and not wanting to press to hard being afraid that the screen would crack.

It's definately harder than the Mogul's.

I also love how there are no edges like on the Mogul, the whole screen surface is flat. That was a problem I had with the Mogul and Touchpal, my finger would hit the plastic border when using the letters on the edge.

Musicman247 11-14-2007 12:55 AM

Thank you very much for the quick response with the info!

EtherealRemnant 11-14-2007 01:03 AM

Pibe38 ftw.

So yeah... has anyone found any new issues not present on the Mogul or has HTC plugged up most of the holes without making new ones?

I really do love that device. Can't wait to get it in my hands. It absolutely blew me away how smooth the Touch cube is and looking in the memory and seeing more than 31MB free (the most I've ever seen on my Mogul) made me almost start drooling. I'm also quite pleased that the lights are TINY now instead of those huge gawdy things that flash in the night.

I'm just hoping they've fixed the issues that plagued the Mogul WITHOUT making new ones.

Pibe38 11-14-2007 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musicman247 (Post 121372)
I think you go those quotes switched...at least I hope you did.

I have no idea what you are talking about ;)

Musicman247 11-14-2007 01:08 AM

Neither do I! ;-)

EtherealRemnant 11-14-2007 01:11 AM

Someone tell me we have a screenshot! ;)

adrian2pm 11-14-2007 12:11 PM

what programs are preinstalled in touch that are fingerflick ?

Cicatrize 11-14-2007 01:21 PM

Hahahaha ROFL @ work about Pibe38's post showing 4 different proofs of speakerphone.

afx 11-14-2007 02:03 PM

Is a touch right for me?
 
Im looking into changing my mogul for a touch,

the only thing im really worried about is the keyboard or text entry in general, thats a huge reason why im staying away from the mogul.

Is it a good phone? How is your text entry? Is the whole touch thing a giant novelty?

Any help is appreciated!

adrian2pm 11-14-2007 02:06 PM

lock on htc touch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mpancari (Post 113697)
This phone is almost perfect!!! If someone can come up with a screen locking program that actually works that would be awesome... thanks for answering my qs



go to settings and click on LONG PRESS END KEY and set it to LOCK DEVICE

Musicman247 11-14-2007 02:09 PM

You can try out the Touch keyboard on the Mogul. Here's a Link to the .cab file
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...6&d=1194027124

Polen 11-14-2007 02:11 PM

I got my Touch Monday, replaced the Mogul. WOW!! What a cool phone.

So far no lockups and my Bluetooth Moto H700 headset works great. The sound quality of my voice and the caller's voice is so much improved that I can't tell the difference between the headset and the phone itself.

I'm still playing with the phone, but here are my likes and dislikes so far.

LIKES::
Small size
Rarely need a stylist
Bluetooth works very well
Small number of buttons. On the Mogul I kept accidently pressing side buttons while using it.
No raised beveled frame around the screen, so now my finger can go all the way to the edge.
MicroSD is covered, so now no accidental discharge of storage card.
Very nice feeling 5-way button. The middle button is separated from the directional.
Picture quality is better than my old Mogul.
Large Startmenu
x-buttons
SprintTV, after update to 1005 version.
Ram size and speed.
Touch Flo interface with Cube.
Tabbed HTC Home plug-in with big clock
Solid feel with rubbery felt like feel to it, not slippery, so it resist sliding out of your shirt pocket when bending over to pick something up.
Stylist located at the top. I’m left handed, works better for me.

DISLIKES::
SprintTV did not total work out of the box.
I can’t select my city for HTC Home plug-in weather out of the box. I’m still messing with it though.
Cube interface has hard coded icons, but you can hack the names and what they launch with regedit.
On-screen Touch keyboard cover up some text fields, it depends on the program, so typing blind.
Back of phone gets petty warm during extended use. I know, all phones do this, but it’s still a dislike.
Supplied screen protector is hard to install perfectly. The edges tend to touch the phones case keeping it from making good contact.

Well, I can’t think of anymore dislikes. This phone is just incredible.


-Polen

wickedklown 11-14-2007 02:41 PM

Screenprotector/holster?
 
Waiting for my touch ever so patiently. I assume that it comes with a stock screen protector. I did not like the mogul's, was not smooth,grabbed my stylus alot and lifted alot so I purchased one aftermarket, was awesome, slid like butter :mrgreen:. Do you guys see an issue with the stock SP?

Also saw the low priced holsters. Any feedback on skins/holsters? Id hate to scratch this shiny piece of rubber ).

Polen 11-14-2007 03:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wickedklown (Post 121756)
Waiting for my touch ever so patiently. I assume that it comes with a stock screen protector. I did not like the mogul's, was not smooth,grabbed my stylus alot and lifted alot so I purchased one aftermarket, was awesome, slid like butter :mrgreen:. Do you guys see an issue with the stock SP?

Also saw the low priced holsters. Any feedback on skins/holsters? Id hate to scratch this shiny piece of rubber ).

Here's some pictures of the Sprint supplied Touch Holster. It has a soft felt liner with a hidden magnet clasp. It does come with one screen protector, it's thick, hard, smooth and slippery. I know what you mean about the Mogul's supplied screen protector being a bit soft and sticky. The Touches supplied screen protector does have a glare problem in a well lit area, like at the work place.

-Polen


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