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Old 05-13-2008, 08:48 AM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

do not do the below!!! I have lost my radio after running PPST, still working to get it back, it may be unique to my setup, but this is just a warning......when I get it going again, I'll catchup w/ all these posts....


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I've seen Hetaldp recommend Sprint users running PPST.exe, this file is included in this cab ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Vogue/Users/OM.../PPST____2.CAB which was included in the original leaked rom, but I did not incorporate into my custom rom......I'm going to try it & see if helps.....you may have to run the cab, then run PPST.exe.

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Old 05-13-2008, 10:10 AM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

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All I have to say is that the GPS is useless. I am in New Jersey for business. We went to manhattan tonight and I couldn't get a lock on a satelite in the car the entire 30 miles. I got absolutely nothing in Times Square and all around the city. On the way back, we caught the bus and accidentally got off at the wrong stop. I thought to my self, "no problem, we aren't lost., I have GPS". Well F*** me. I couldn't get a lock for the hour and a alf that I wandered the New Jersey streets looking for my hotel. I even hard reset my device while walking hoping that the GPS would get a lock..... and NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't find a single satelite.

And here is the thing that pisses me off the most, when I finally got back to my hotel in Englewood, I placed my phone in the hotel window and I got a lock in about 30 seconds.

So here's the question, "Why could I not get a lock outside with wide open skies for almost 2 hours with a hardreset and multiple softresets. But as soon as I stopped and placed the phone in the window, it got a lock." -A GPS device is absolutely useless if you can't get a lock on it when simply walking around town. I had the phone in my hand and pointing at the sky ....... ARGGHHHH!!!!!!

I'm really going to give up on this device soon. It has been fun trying to get GPS working on it. But I guess, at the end of the day, it's a gimick. You certainly can't rely on it as I just proved this evening.

The thing that made the biggest difference for me was installing the new gps drivers AND running gps viewer and leaving it open before running any other gps related app. My GPS now locks on within about 30 seconds 100% of the time whereas before it would not lock on at all.
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:15 AM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

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All I have to say is that the GPS is useless. I am in New Jersey for business. We went to manhattan tonight and I couldn't get a lock on a satelite in the car the entire 30 miles. I got absolutely nothing in Times Square and all around the city. On the way back, we caught the bus and accidentally got off at the wrong stop. I thought to my self, "no problem, we aren't lost., I have GPS". Well F*** me. I couldn't get a lock for the hour and a alf that I wandered the New Jersey streets looking for my hotel. I even hard reset my device while walking hoping that the GPS would get a lock..... and NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't find a single satelite.

And here is the thing that pisses me off the most, when I finally got back to my hotel in Englewood, I placed my phone in the hotel window and I got a lock in about 30 seconds.

So here's the question, "Why could I not get a lock outside with wide open skies for almost 2 hours with a hardreset and multiple softresets. But as soon as I stopped and placed the phone in the window, it got a lock." -A GPS device is absolutely useless if you can't get a lock on it when simply walking around town. I had the phone in my hand and pointing at the sky ....... ARGGHHHH!!!!!!

I'm really going to give up on this device soon. It has been fun trying to get GPS working on it. But I guess, at the end of the day, it's a gimick. You certainly can't rely on it as I just proved this evening.
I don't think GPS works very well at all in NYC with the tall buildings. I cannot get a good lock using my Holux BT GPS, it has me floating all over the city. So I wouldn't expect the phone's GPS to be any better.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:03 AM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

Yeah, I wasn't too upset in NYC, but when I was in Leonia, NJ in the middle of no where. I got nothing.

It's important to note that before I flew to NJ, I was using the GPS in St. Louis with relatively few issues. And as I noted, I tried a hard reset with this OMJ ROM and still got nothing. I cannot even begin to guess why after an hour and a half of walking around outside with a perfect view of the sky, I got no satelite locks.... But when I got to my hotel and placed the phoine against the window, I got the usual lock in less than a minute.

I've since reloaded the Leaked sprint ROM. I fired it up for the first time in a conference room in the center of a highly secure building. (No windows) Upon starting up for the first time, I got a lock on 2 sats with no driver changes (i.e. virser_gps or gpskickstart). They were intermittent, but it did pick them up.

I guess here's what I 've noticed with the OMJ ROM. After a clean install, the GPS seems to work. But somehow it's getting corrupted along the way. example:

If I open up Garmin and get a good lock with OMJ's rom and then click the power button on top to turn off the screen, then turn it back on, it can't locate the GPS chip. I have to make sure that I close the application before it turn the screen off everytime. (With the leaked ROM, if I click the power button while GARMIN is running, and the turn the phone back on about 5 secs later, I get an error message, "a problem has occurred with device.exe" - would you like to send an error message?). Once the device can't find the GPS chip, I have issues with the GPS until I reflash. (HArd reset and soft resets aren't helping). -Right out of the box, with a fresh flash, the GPS is working.

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Old 05-13-2008, 11:07 AM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

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I've since reloaded the Leaked sprint ROM. I fired it up for the first time in a conference room in the center of a highly secure building. (No windows) Upon starting up for the first time, I got a lock on 2 sats with no driver changes (i.e. virser_gps or gpskickstart). They were intermittent, but it did pick them up.
I think a fair number of people, myself included would get gps reception after loading a fresh rom but found that next day or so they would get absolutely nothing. Again for myself all it took was running gps viewer beforehand and keeping it running in the background, but I'm hoping that once a more solid sprint ROM comes out that we won't have to resort to this, but frankly for now since Bell Mobility says I can't have GPS and I have it working, I am *extremely* pleased.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:25 AM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

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, but frankly for now since Bell Mobility says I can't have GPS and I have it working, I am *extremely* pleased.
I just got a fresh(replacement) touch from bell.. What method of flashing did you use..What radio are you using??? can you quickly list steps you used to sucessfully upgrdae bell touch to get this all working.. TIA
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

After a fresh ROM install with almost any of the GPS ROMs (I'm on Sprint), GPS works very well. The second day, I have to fight with soft resets, priming, praying and cussing to get GPS to work. The third day nothing but a hard reset will get it working.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:47 AM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

I have a few questions. I just installed OMJ rom with rev a, now for some reason I cannot install PIM backup on my phone. OMJ old non gps rom had pim backup which was great. I am also having a hard time getting a lock on gps. What settings are you using in GPS Viewer and do you run gps viewer before you open google maps? One more question, for some reason whenever I reset my phone, it automatically starts up in pocket informant which is the organizer I use. I cannot find the startup tab where I can stop this. Thanks for all your help.
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

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I just got a fresh(replacement) touch from bell.. What method of flashing did you use..What radio are you using??? can you quickly list steps you used to sucessfully upgrdae bell touch to get this all working.. TIA
First I used Coke 2.31 unlocker

Then I installed the newest Alltell Rom, making sure that I did a soft reset before the customizations were run. (This INCLUDES the radio that I am using, 3.37.10)

Then I installed OMJ's Bell GPS ROM, although I am not sure if this one is as up to date as his current Sprint ROM, but it would appear so to me and it seems to work just fine.

Big key is to use the unlocker first, follow the instructions, and to get into the Coke bootloader, power on the device while holding the camera button, then you'll be ready to load the Alltell ROM, and do the same thing to load OMJ's ROM.

If you get stuck there's LOTS of more in depth writeups than I've given you here just search around the forums.

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Old 05-13-2008, 01:26 PM
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Re: OMJ's WM6.1 Custom Touch ROM w/ UC, GPS, REV A!

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If you get stuck there's LOTS of more in depth writeups than I've given you here just search around the forums.
Thanks ..As much as i had read i was confused as to where the radio update came in but you make it clear it comes in the form of the altel rom....After that I assume we can use any flavour of cooked rom ? I really want TOM TOM as i have it on my treo but it is palm based. I will give it a shot when i get home from work tonight.. Bell will never "give" this to us and it is a must have with this phone.. I been using my BT GPS since day one and would love to cut that out of the whole equation....

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