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Old 01-01-2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: Blurry pictures

To bad there isn't a way to adjust some of the shutter's specs with software
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Old 01-01-2009, 11:54 AM
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Re: Blurry pictures

In low-light conditions, the TP camera sucks, even with the flash. However outdoors or well-lit subjects, I don't experience too many problems. Auto-focus is quick, pictures are sharp, and it's a huge improvement over that turd camera my BB Curve had.
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Re: Blurry pictures

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In low-light conditions, the TP camera sucks, even with the flash. .

What really bugs me is, there seems to be no way to disable the dreadfully slow AF.

Cameras like these with teeny little lens & sensors are never going to anything but a "grab a quick snapshot" type of deal & they don't really need AF at all (& there absolutely should be an option to turn it off if you want). With the tiny sensor, the depth of field on these things is HUGE (just the opposite of say a D-SLR with a wide open F stop setting) so most everything is going to be in focus in any given pic anyway.

My wife's at least two year old Samsung flip phone (that she bought new for $19) takes as good pics as 99% of the ones I see posted here & ANYBODY can pick up that phone & snap off a decent pic. My 8 year old daughter has taken some great shots with that old phone, it has no AF & responds almost instantly to the shutter.

By the way, I was messing with an Omnia a few days ago. That camera is a real slowpoke too.......

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Old 01-02-2009, 04:04 AM
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Re: Blurry pictures

Okay I've heard "disable the AF" enough. Do you know of ANY contrast-based AF camera that supports DISABLING the AF (not switching to manual focus)? There is no such thing, because that would SUCK. So let's just forget it, eh?
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Okay I've heard "disable the AF" enough. Do you know of ANY contrast-based AF camera that supports DISABLING the AF (not switching to manual focus)? There is no such thing, because that would SUCK. So let's just forget it, eh?
What are you talking about?? (switching to manual focus is disabling the AF) I use a small AF camera all day every day at work that has a MF setting I can switch to anytime I want........

I actually use that setting quite often & what would SUCK would be if I didn't have that option......

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Old 01-02-2009, 03:20 PM
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What are you talking about?? (switching to manual focus is disabling the AF) I use a small AF camera all day every day at work that has a MF setting I can switch to anytime I want........

I actually use that setting quite often & what would SUCK would be if I didn't have that option......

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No, switching to manual focus is switching to a different focusing method. DISABLING the AF in the absence of another focusing method is simply not done and a silly feature to want.
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No, switching to manual focus is switching to a different focusing method. DISABLING the AF in the absence of another focusing method is simply not done and a silly feature to want.
BFD, you're talking semantics here (to most people it's the same thing).

All HTC had to do was include a MF option & we wouldn't be having this discussion. If you could switch to MF when you wanted, it would snap a picture in a fraction of the time it does now.

My wife's two year old flip phone can take about three pics in the time it takes the TP to AF & shoot one........

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BFD, you're talking semantics here (to most people it's the same thing).

All HTC had to do was include a MF option & we wouldn't be having this discussion. If you could switch to MF when you wanted, it would snap a picture in a fraction of the time it does now.

My wife's two year old flip phone can take about three pics in the time it takes the TP to AF & shoot one........

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It's not just semantics. There's a big difference in implementation between simply DISABLING the AF and having a MANUAL FOCUS option. That's the point. People cry for disabling the AF with the thought in mind that it would be a relatively simple tweak, but ADDING manual focus functionality would be more to ask and far less likely to happen (or already be possible), and would require setting by the user for properly focused images.

Most people do not even understand the need for a focusing method, should the AF be disabled. You apparently know better, so you really should be calling for a manual focus option rather than simply disabling the AF, so as to educate those who don't know better and temper expectations accordingly. Joining the "disable AF" chorus as a person who ostensibly understands the need to control the position of the lens elements, and not acknowledging that need and the implications of that need, is irresponsible and counterproductive.

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Re: Blurry pictures

I just got back from McD with the kids. While they were playing in the playground, I decided to take a video. THis time, there was very little blur. The only difference was that it was very sunny. It's not just my imagination either. I purposely tried to get a blur, and it was hard to do.
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I just got back from McD with the kids. While they were playing in the playground, I decided to take a video. THis time, there was very little blur. The only difference was that it was very sunny. It's not just my imagination either. I purposely tried to get a blur, and it was hard to do.
Yes, that's how cameras work.
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