Hold on, HTC Touch Pro HD?...maybe I'll wait a little while? - Page 3

**drexappeal** · #21 (**permalink**) 09-30-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by luckieyoung

Any word when the Touch pro will be out for Altell? Sorry lil off topic I know..

There's an Alltel thread discussing it.

luckieyoung · #22 (**permalink**) 09-30-2008, 09:36 PM

Okay sorry really new to this.. go to search and type in altell? I tried to type in touch pro altell and nothing.. Sorry again pimp.

**themuffinman** · #23 (**permalink**) 09-30-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by luckieyoung

Okay sorry really new to this.. go to search and type in altell? I tried to type in touch pro altell and nothing.. Sorry again pimp.

Its ok, here the link to the altell thread

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=37373

92GTA · #24 (**permalink**) 09-30-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by drexappeal

Dude...relax...I just posted a new thread because I saw the information and wanted to share...sheesh. If the moderators want to merge with another one, so be it. No point in getting bent out of shape about it. No big deal.

Dude, chill. He's bashing the article NOT you personally for posting the link. Don't take anything on the internet personally.

**drexappeal** · #25 (**permalink**) 10-01-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 92GTA

Dude, chill. He's bashing the article NOT you personally for posting the link. Don't take anything on the internet personally.

I am chill. Turbofool was the one complaining about my starting a new thread. I'm the one telling him to relax because he seems to have a problem with my starting a new thread for information that isn't 100% justified. As far as I was concerned, it was new information that I hadn't seen posted anywhere and there were discussions about a Touch Pro HD...just figured it would be something that some people would be interested in. I don't see any reason why it didn't warrant a new thread, but obviously he felt differently.

**TurboFool** · #26 (**permalink**) 10-01-2008, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by drexappeal

I am chill. Turbofool was the one complaining about my starting a new thread. I'm the one telling him to relax because he seems to have a problem with my starting a new thread for information that isn't 100% justified. As far as I was concerned, it was new information that I hadn't seen posted anywhere and there were discussions about a Touch Pro HD...just figured it would be something that some people would be interested in. I don't see any reason why it didn't warrant a new thread, but obviously he felt differently.

My annoyance is that if a thread were started based on every occasion someone reported what they heard from "some guy they knew," the boards would be flooded with nothing but garbage. In fact, they already are. It's enough that we have to weed through the people who make their own threads to tell us how they supposedly heard from their supposed friend who supposedly works at a Sprint store who was supposedly told by the HTC rep that there'll be an update for the Mogul next week that unlocks the secret EVDO rev. B support. We get tons of those here and it's painful to watch them go to 5, 10, 15 pages before the date finally passes and people slowly notice the jerk who started the thread hasn't been posting for a week.

But there's absolutely nothing remotely reputable about a comment on a blog. If the actual blog article itself said there was an HTC Touch Pro HD on the way, that would be one thing. While I'd skeptical due to the relatively small nature of the blog, it would still be from someone who had a reputation to put on the line and might be less likely to spew trash. You'd have my full support in posting about it, because it would at least give us a good forum to investigate the likelihood of the claim and debunk it or prove it right and have something to be excited about. But have you actually taken the time to read through comment threads on blogs? They are made up of 8% "frist p0st!!!1!", 30% sarcastic comments, 15% gripes about the author's grammar or factual errors, 10% links to supposedly-related blogs that are actually spam, 25% people who have nothing to say but just want their name to appear on the page, 10% complete lies, and 2% intelligent posts with valuable information. Read that guy's grammar, spelling, and lack of credible evidence and tell me which category you honestly believe he fits in.

I'm cool with posting rumors. But think about the reliability of the source of the rumor before getting people excited and lending validity to a crackpot. You made that guy's week as now his complete garbage lie comment on a blog has gotten several dozen people to give him attention and get them excited about something that doesn't exist. Do lowlifes like that really deserve our time? Let's concentrate on facts and reality and plausibility. We have a Touch Pro on the way next month that's going to be awesome. We don't need to spoil the excitement by getting people to be disappointed with that in anticipation of new device we have no credible evidence exists. Doesn't that seem fair?

**drexappeal** · #27 (**permalink**) 10-01-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboFool

My annoyance is that if a thread were started based on every occasion someone reported what they heard from "some guy they knew," the boards would be flooded with nothing but garbage. In fact, they already are. It's enough that we have to weed through the people who make their own threads to tell us how they supposedly heard from their supposed friend who supposedly works at a Sprint store who was supposedly told by the HTC rep that there'll be an update for the Mogul next week that unlocks the secret EVDO rev. B support. We get tons of those here and it's painful to watch them go to 5, 10, 15 pages before the date finally passes and people slowly notice the jerk who started the thread hasn't been posting for a week.

But there's absolutely nothing remotely reputable about a comment on a blog. If the actual blog article itself said there was an HTC Touch Pro HD on the way, that would be one thing. While I'd skeptical due to the relatively small nature of the blog, it would still be from someone who had a reputation to put on the line and might be less likely to spew trash. You'd have my full support in posting about it, because it would at least give us a good forum to investigate the likelihood of the claim and debunk it or prove it right and have something to be excited about. But have you actually taken the time to read through comment threads on blogs? They are made up of 8% "frist p0st!!!1!", 30% sarcastic comments, 15% gripes about the author's grammar or factual errors, 10% links to supposedly-related blogs that are actually spam, 25% people who have nothing to say but just want their name to appear on the page, 10% complete lies, and 2% intelligent posts with valuable information. Read that guy's grammar, spelling, and lack of credible evidence and tell me which category you honestly believe he fits in.

I'm cool with posting rumors. But think about the reliability of the source of the rumor before getting people excited and lending validity to a crackpot. You made that guy's week as now his complete garbage lie comment on a blog has gotten several dozen people to give him attention and get them excited about something that doesn't exist. Do lowlifes like that really deserve our time? Let's concentrate on facts and reality and plausibility. We have a Touch Pro on the way next month that's going to be awesome. We don't need to spoil the excitement by getting people to be disappointed with that in anticipation of new device we have no credible evidence exists. Doesn't that seem fair?

If I realized posting new threads on information (regardless of reliability) being posted up would get peoples panties in a bunch, then I'll prevent from posting up a thread in the future.

Sheesh, join a message board that seems like a great community and get grief for something that really isn't that big a deal IMO. Sorry it upsets you that much to write a novel about it.

**TurboFool** · #28 (**permalink**) 10-01-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by drexappeal

If I realized posting new threads on information (regardless of reliability) being posted up would get peoples panties in a bunch, then I'll prevent from posting up a thread in the future.

Sheesh, join a message board that seems like a great community and get grief for something that really isn't that big a deal IMO. Sorry it upsets you that much to write a novel about it.

lol, you haven't seen a novel from me.

I'm really not trying to be a jerk. It just gets old seeing thread after thread posted about nothingness, and a half-dozen people excitedly believing it because someone thought it was worth writing a post about. This isn't news, it's an anonymous jerk trying to get attention online. Just saying he doesn't need our support.

**drexappeal** · #29 (**permalink**) 10-01-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboFool

lol, you haven't seen a novel from me.

I'm really not trying to be a jerk. It just gets old seeing thread after thread posted about nothingness, and a half-dozen people excitedly believing it because someone thought it was worth writing a post about. This isn't news, it's an anonymous jerk trying to get attention online. Just saying he doesn't need our support.

Gotcha. No worries then. You'll have to excuse my ignorance of the "protocol" on these message boards. Very different from the message board I moderate on, which is pretty darn big.

I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from. My main purpose of starting the thread was because I found comments about something that people have "wanted," but never saw anything in writing about it being a possibility. When I saw the comments of that one guy mentioning a "Touch Pro HD," I knew a lot of people had mentioned it would be the perfect phone for their needs, which is why I started the thread.

Regardless, I think that it's really up to people what to take away from it, but was not trying to mislead anybody in any way. Just trying to share information that I found while searching through the internet and happened to find this blog (with short snippets of information that may or may not be true...totally eroneous).

So, people, just take the blog for what it's worth (i.e. lot's of non-supported talk).

**TurboFool** · #30 (**permalink**) 10-01-2008, 02:25 PM

Keep in mind, my notes were from a user perspective of my opinion on the validity of the thread, and not that of a moderator. I was a moderator on the IGN boards for several years (after you start working seven days a week it's hard to keep up the duties), and had this been posted there I would also not have locked it or made any formal warnings. I would have made the same comments from a user-level perspective, though, to ensure people were aware of the lack of authority of the source and unlikeliness of the news. I have no authority here to decide protocol, and I don't think that would be a mod's job, either. I think it's more for the community to decide for themselves what information is worth speculating over (i.e. published articles from reliable sources, or off-handed conjecture), which is why I voiced my single opinion.