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[sammich] 11-15-2009 05:12 PM

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--UPDATE - 11/15 10:45PM CST--

A SOLUTION HAS BEEN FOUND!

MightyMike and Juggalo_x have been working all day on this issue, and it has paid off.

The latest OEM packages include a rogue intshr.exe/.lnk within their OEMDrivers that has tracking embedded. This results USB2PC popup to launch this application, rather than Microsoft's native Internet Sharing application. Although both applications look the same, the carrier version has tethering detection enabled.

Sprint users are not affected due to an 67 error code displayed while using the USB2PC popup. Any CDMA OEM drivers includes this. Telus users have this feature working by default, therefore will suffer the repercussions of tethering. All chefs are urged to notify their users of possible outcomes, if they do not resolve this issue accordingly.

MightyMike and Juggalo_x have taken down both of their ROMs, and we strongly urge all other chefs to do so IMMEDIATELY to fix this issue. Again, their hard work is GREATLY appreciated.
- Update: MightyROM is back online, issues fixed.

More information in a quote from MightyMike:
Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMike (Post 1332768)
To elaborate a little more.

The main reason why sprint users are not being affected is the following:

Using the USB2PC popup, selecting internet sharing from that list, brings up the carrier (fake) internet sharing. For telus users and verizon users, this actually works, we can connect. For sprint users, you guys get an error 67 issue.

Therefore your forced to use the Internet Sharing within the programs menu, which is infact THE REAL ONE that is supposed to be used.

That's the main reason why Sprint users haven't not been dinged, and Myself and Juggalo have been hit hard for tethering charges. ($1,400 & $200)

I want this to be a black and white fix across the board for my ROM.

I hope all users get off the current ROM immediately when the new version is posted.


And Juggalo_x's personal explanation :) :
Quote:

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X (Post 1332840)
To further elaborate on the Error 67, this is due to the Rogue Internet Sharing calling the "Tethering NAI" in the radio! Sprint does not have a tethering NAI, Thus they get the error. VZW and Telus users get the shaft as it initiated the tethering NAI dials it and proceeds to rape us.


Hotfix:
Code:

>>>HOT FIX FOUND HERE<<<

Users, make sure this hotfix overwrites the old \Windows\IntShr.exe

Old size: 34kb
New size: 24kb


Confirmation that the fix is working: (thanks MightyMike)

http://i37.tinypic.com/2dr9rps.jpg






--UPDATE - 11/15 6:30PM CST--


UPDATE: We are receiving more reports from Telus users that tethering hacks have been detected on some ROM/radio combinations. Please check your bills if you have used tethering! If you have charges we need you to post them here so we can get a better idea of where the issue lies. IMMEDIATELY DISCONTINUE THE USE OF TETHERING IF YOU NOTICE CHARGES ON YOUR ACCOUNT!





--UPDATE - 11/15 12:30PM CST--

It has come to our attention that Telus users seem to have have a major issue with Tethering. MightyMike and Juggalo_x just noticed Telus has an overage charge on their bills for 1x data, indicating Telus just may have detected the tethering tweaks. We urge all Telus users to check their bills immediately at mytelusmobility.com > "E-care" > "View Data Usage".

As a Sprint user, I have checked my bill as well and NOT noticed any overages either, so Sprint users should be fine.

This is just a word of CAUTION - we do not wish to cause mass panic. We thought it would be better to give you a heads up than to wait until we knew there was an issue.

We are not sure what is causing the detection but we are investigating the issue and working on a solution.

Any users who notice the charge on their bills, PLEASE post in this thread so we can confirm whether this is widespread or not.


Here are images of some bills regarding the issue

Me (saumaun) - SPRINT [NO ADDITIONAL CHARGES]

http://i35.tinypic.com/2ziwrqo.png

MightyMike - TELUS [$1,335.20 ADDITIONAL CHARGE]
http://i34.tinypic.com/wlpz0z.png

apaquette0069 - TELUS [$199 ADDITIONAL CHARGE]
http://i33.tinypic.com/2eyxclc.png

wraith79 - TELUS [$154.83 ADDITIONAL CHARGE]

http://i34.tinypic.com/23vni3p.png

MightyMike 11-15-2009 05:14 PM

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Here was my kinder surprise when I went to check my data usage.

:disgust:

http://i34.tinypic.com/wlpz0z.png

ls3mach 11-15-2009 05:39 PM

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You did use a 1.5GB... $1300 seems a bit expensive though. Did you get a credit for that?

MightyMike 11-15-2009 05:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ls3mach (Post 1331528)
You did use a 1.5GB... $1300 seems a bit expensive though. Did you get a credit for that?

1.5GB was for the total for the month.


the 1,300 charge was for 300mb of data usage.

ls3mach 11-15-2009 05:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMike (Post 1331529)
1.5GB was for the total for the month.


the 1,300 charge was for 300mb of data usage.

I wasn't judging you. I used 8+GB last month, that is expensive for 300MB.

twe90kid 11-15-2009 05:57 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
sprint looks safe right now...

freebie 11-15-2009 06:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMike (Post 1331463)
Here was my kinder surprise when I went to check my data usage.

:disgust:

http://i34.tinypic.com/wlpz0z.png


Hey MM what plan are you on for data...I just looked on Telus's web site and to my amazement...

"Additional usage will be charged at $0.05/MB. Cannot combine with any other data plan. Tethering included. Additional data is charged by the MB or GB and is rounded up to the closest KB (1 GB =1,024 MB; 1 MB = 1,024 KB). Data usage is subject to a monthly overage limit of 10 GB."

I assume you are on the Diamond 15 Unlimited Data Plan but I dont know if this would apply to grandfathered plans or not but maybe you could get some of that cash back.

I also looked on my contract and now where does it state that use of Tethering is either excluded or included...who knows. Good Luck.

Likwid 11-15-2009 06:10 PM

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lol, data has the largest markup, costs them fractions of a fraction of a penny last I checked.

That being said, tethering is dangerous and you should assume the liability.

ls3mach 11-15-2009 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Likwid (Post 1331597)
lol, data has the largest markup, costs them fractions of a fraction of a penny last I checked.

That being said, tethering is dangerous and you should assume the liability.


Dangerous... lolol
I feel like a spy deep in enemy territory.

freebie 11-15-2009 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Likwid (Post 1331597)
lol, data has the largest markup, costs them fractions of a fraction of a penny last I checked.

That being said, tethering is dangerous and you should assume the liability.

No kidding...I was recently in Cancun and got lost driving around town at night with my family. I turned on Google maps for like 10 seconds to get my location...to my surprise I was charged 14 bucks for 257 KB of data.

Likwid 11-15-2009 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ls3mach (Post 1331604)
Dangerous... lolol
I feel like a spy deep in enemy territory.


Well, danger is relative... I consider a nickle per meg to be a cause for peril :) as I'm sure MM has now learned.

Maybe "hazardous" would be a better choice of word :-D

mconig78 11-15-2009 06:24 PM

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When you connect with internet sharing are you selecting "data network" or "phone as modem" ? I just noticed that on mine I have Sprint. As of right now no charges.

macron2000 11-15-2009 06:46 PM

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Ok so I'm new to this forum and site but did geta suprise this weekend when attempting to tether my TP2 on Tmobile. When it would connect, I was advised that Tmobile has disabled this feature "officially" due to the traffic on their 3G network. Only 2G Winmo phones, the Wing and the Dash, and all Blackberries are able to tether with Tmobile these days. Many of you already know this probably.

mjon13 11-15-2009 07:02 PM

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I think Verizon is on to us as well. They're just a little nicer about it. When trying to tether I get this screen on my browser. At least they don't let me browse then charge me for it.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...n13/Tether.jpg

DomSim 11-15-2009 07:03 PM

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wait, 300mb=1300 dollars? wtf? are you fighting it mighty?

imnuts 11-15-2009 07:33 PM

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At a rate of $0.05/MB, that would be about 25-26GB for the $1300 charge. Something doesn't seem to be adding up right there.

my pants are tight 11-15-2009 07:43 PM

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I take it that the "tethering in stealth mode" .cab hack is really not in stealth mode at all? It looks like many carriers radar penetrates stealth mode. I'm just assuming everybody has been using the stealth mode hack.

seanborn1979 11-15-2009 07:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mjon13 (Post 1331727)
I think Verizon is on to us as well. They're just a little nicer about it. When trying to tether I get this screen on my browser. At least they don't let me browse then charge me for it.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...n13/Tether.jpg


This is what I get when using Mighty's latest ROM. I took it for a sign of don't use it for tethering. Hopefully this gets straightened out.

Maybe we should all donate some $$ to MightyMike for this to help him out.

danny6514 11-15-2009 07:59 PM

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Hmm...not that much...but cmon...6000kilobytes for nearly 50 bucks.
ROM: MightyMike 1110
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu257/chdyang/1X.png

Mayonesa 11-15-2009 08:14 PM

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damn MM.. that has to hurt.. i went over my minutes one time and had to pay about a 100 bucks extra that one month and that hurt.. i can imagine that

danny6514 11-15-2009 08:23 PM

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it was 2 years ago when I got my first PPC, the Mogul. genius enough, I used data without a data plan, and as a result, I got a 1000 dollar bill. I called Telus and "acted dumb." First the customer representative told me there's nothing they can do, but I insisted on talking to the manager or whoever is in charge. They switched me over, and who knew, it worked and they deducted my data usage charge with the condition of adding the 15 unlimited IM addon. Acting dumb works, sometimes.

MrObvious 11-15-2009 08:29 PM

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Whoa!

SporkLover 11-15-2009 09:02 PM

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I assume you were actually tethered and not using a Wireless solution like PDA Net, WMWifiRouter, or HTC Wifi Router?

racemepls 11-15-2009 09:09 PM

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Sprints bills are so rediculously hard to understand, I would need a phd to figure out if I'm getting charged or not.

KrisK91 11-15-2009 09:51 PM

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What exactly is tethering?

racemepls 11-15-2009 10:04 PM

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It's using your cell phone's internet on your laptop or desktop

KrisK91 11-15-2009 10:09 PM

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and how can sprint find out that your doing that?

apaquette0069 11-15-2009 10:17 PM

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well im on telus and just found out i got charged $200 for surfing , although its not even close to you MM but 200 is 200, man this sucks i thought i had an unlimited data plan, in fact i know i have an unlimited data plan, can they really charge me for this? is there any way to get this off my bill without having to pay?? thanks for any help

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/v...Untitled-1.png

Rippa_MD 11-15-2009 10:24 PM

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So Telus is able to detect this only on TP2?

What about TP1 or Mogul?

Trying to add other questions into the mix to help figure this out...

citats 11-15-2009 10:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by apaquette0069 (Post 1332217)
well im on telus and just found out i got charged $200 for surfing , although its not even close to you MM but 200 is 200, man this sucks i thought i had an unlimited data plan, in fact i know i have an unlimited data plan, can they really charge me for this? is there any way to get this off my bill without having to pay?? thanks for any help

I'd be curious to know if you were surfing on your computer via tethering or just surfing on your device?
If it was just using your device my wonder changes to whether or not Telus has simply had a billing issue and in that case as long as you were with in your plan then you have an argument.... other wise the fight could be fruitless.

amw1972 11-15-2009 10:28 PM

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Ok...we're sure MM knows what he was doing...could very be due to the "weird" reg entries the TP2 has...remember the softkey issue when we first got our phones?

As for the others, they MAY not have been using the "right" hack for tethering.

I have been using the ICS WModem fix.cab. Between that and WMwifi router...I have not seen any issues...HOWEVER...I am on Sprint. I'm quite sure we all know that Sprint is usually a step or two behind all the carriers anyway

apaquette0069 11-15-2009 10:36 PM

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i was tethering with my phone to surf on my computer, so i think telus knows!!!!

KrisK91 11-15-2009 10:48 PM

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but how can sprint or any carrier see that your using your tethering your phone?

Mr. X 11-15-2009 10:53 PM

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ok guys so i know ive got boned for a lil over 200 bux,

users who are getting caught please report the rom your using. ive been going through mine with a microscope and i still cannot find anything that would cause us to get caught. im using all thte old tweaks and other stuff.

for telus users its not looking good may be the radio :( ive noticed some new entries in the NV regarding "Tethering NAI"

Boo Boo 11-15-2009 11:08 PM

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does my way make it hidden again? at least with sprint. maybe telus has other settings

Tethering - tested and works

1 - using file explorer go to Windows\Start Menu\Programs - delete internect connection sharing

2 install - ICS_and_WModem_Fix cab

3. using a regedit program

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing]
Extension="" Delete the "isext.dll" entry

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing\settings]
ForceCellConnection="Sprint"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing]
MaxCMCon=0

[HKLM\Services\CMGuardian]
Flags = 4 (it's a DWORD Value. if it doesn't exist. you need to create it)

4 - soft reset
5 - Start the Internet Sharing application.
6 - Select Sprint under type of connection.
7 - Hit Connect In the Internet Sharing application.
8 - Connect to the Laptop/PC via USB
9 - Done. No other applications needs to run on the PC/Laptop.

AMCYA 11-15-2009 11:12 PM

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I'm at:
Usage Type My Usage Allowance
Kilobytes 836,654.31KB Unlimited

No extra charges yet, will let you know if I do.
I'm on Verizon

[sammich] 11-15-2009 11:17 PM

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First post updated. And thanks for the info on the bills, guys. Keep it coming.

At this point, I think it's pretty safe to say Telus users are at risk of getting charged for stealth tethering.

wraith79 11-15-2009 11:21 PM

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sorry to say, but I don't think this an isolated issue!
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/u...79/Capture.png

Likwid 11-15-2009 11:24 PM

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I can tell you I had 1 gig on Sprint NON tethering and I received no extra charges. Sprint SERO $30/mo

isdnmatt 11-15-2009 11:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mjon13 (Post 1331727)
I think Verizon is on to us as well. They're just a little nicer about it. When trying to tether I get this screen on my browser. At least they don't let me browse then charge me for it.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...n13/Tether.jpg

I don't get this message using HTC wifirouter. That's all I use for tethering since the intergrated app doesn't support Bluetooth. I can't see them catching you using this app.


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