Unlocker finally releasing

[lefty11]

Great thoughts and they are appreciated as I agree with many but lets please keep this thread streamlined towards the polling. Thanks again

[darren.wlsn1]

why did my post get whacked, op?

[Despiser]

Originally Posted by bishop0114

Repeated promises and delays that get peoples hopes up and then let down will eventually leave negative impressions and may make people feel there may be an enjoyment for the power of theatrics.

Combine those already brewing negative feelings with the censorship and fear of being banned, you wind up with a very unhappy crowd.

The final outcome will nevertheless be the same; eventually there will be a released product and people will be grateful for it. The difference is how people feel about the negative trip the delivery took.

If I had a developer on my staff that pulled the theatrics and then censorship, I would likely not employ them long. The negative feelings elicited from the process would quickly outweigh the positive release of the product.

I agree wholeheartedly. This episode has turned into a very sad Soap Opera...

[dee91]

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if only it was just a soap opera but i say this will cause alot of other issues and confusion and all up the whole thing will turn into a business.. like i mentioned in my earlier post..

[maedhros]

Originally Posted by bishop0114

I think people are willing to wait the needed time it takes to get the release. I think that although it drastically changes the dynamics, people are willing to pay the money being asked. I also think it raises the bar on expectations.

So with all that being said, here is my thoughts on the subject.

The problem as I see it is in the execution and not the time, cost or product. For weeks we have been baited along that the release of the unlocker is just around the corner. We have been told it is in the final stage or complete and just a day or two away...

As an IS manager, I know how upset people can be when you promise a delivery and have to change the release date. Diplomacy and a level of delicacy is always necessary.

Repeated promises and delays that get peoples hopes up and then let down will eventually leave negative impressions and may make people feel there may be an enjoyment for the power of theatrics.

Combine those already brewing negative feelings with the censorship and fear of being banned, you wind up with a very unhappy crowd.

The final outcome will nevertheless be the same; eventually there will be a released product and people will be grateful for it. The difference is how people feel about the negative trip the delivery took.

If I had a developer on my staff that pulled the theatrics and then censorship, I would likely not employ them long. The negative feelings elicited from the process would quickly outweigh the positive release of the product.

GREAT POST!

Censorship and ban fear on this forum has raised greatly due to the Elite team.

Originally Posted by dee91

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hahahahahaha...lol but on a serious not +1 think the policies should have been like touch pro, felt like a real community.. just now with the release of the tp2 tons more people r around and although in the past the hspl was put out to further advance performance and many other things in wm now it looks like its become a regular program that is sold in wmsoftware sites at 20$ as apposed to a tool for wich to increase development (although i do understand that they dont want mass unlocking and the reasons etc) i FEEL it will cause jealosy as to who can start charging for their work (wich in theory they have a right to) but the sideeffects may include 15$ for psyki rom 17.50$ for mightyrom or 10.00$ silent rom etc.etc. the point is it will turn into the software development business... and will deeply ruin the atmosphere and purpose of ppcgeeks and xda-developers etc as apposed to a hobby and fun thing tweaking finding and fixing registries and kitchen building etc...

just my FEELINGS for the poll

I agree with the jealousy thing. I predict freeware development falling rapidly. Not saying its due to the elite team, but...

[jathomas0910]

Originally Posted by maedhros

GREAT POST!

Censorship and ban fear on this forum has raised greatly due to the Elite team.





I agree with the jealousy thing. I predict freeware development falling rapidly. Not saying its due to the elite team, but...

I agree, I had started a forums on what was evolved in creating an unlocker not to complain, I just wanted to learn and although people were helpful it got shut down...now I am afraid of posting or contributing for fear of being banned or ridiculed

is this what this site all about....I love ppcgeeks, but DAMN! talk about Censorship

[CozBoogie]

Originally Posted by jathomas0910

is this what this site all about....I love ppcgeeks, but DAMN! talk about Censorship

Do not misinterpret censorship with site maintenance to ensure that everyone's browsing experience is as positive as possible.

The request was made by the OP (numerous times) to keep this thread on topic. Off topic posts have been deleted (which is done to maintain the integrity of this thread).

If you're looking to place blame on anyone then blame the members here who are finding it a challenge to stay on topic and to post constructive comments. Do not blame the staff for being forced to put out numerous grease fires.

And remember, that 99% of everyone's complaining and whining will be old news and everyone will be seeing rainbows and unicorns once the unlocker is released.

late,
Coz

p.s., I posted this in the another TP2 Unlocker Thread:

Let me jump in here....in a conveinent list format:

1. I'm glad you brought this up....especially since you're a long time member.

2. The staff have not lost sight at all about the charter and direction of our site...in fact we are trying to contain the wildfire that is this topic/discussion. I'm not going to bore you with the details of site management....but know that it can be very consuming.

3. One of the toughest things to do is to maintain a site for EVERYONE. Someone will always feel left out or slighted. It is never our intent to do that purposefully, it just happens. When it does and when it's brought to our attention we try to correct it.

4. We closed A LOT of duplicate threads and merged a lot of duplicate threads. That is just a normal occurrence and part of the housekeeping process. We do this for you all in an effort to keep this place neat and orderly.

5. If you're ever disappointed or confused by staff decisions I do encourage you to pm any of us.

6. The staff and probably 99% of the members and visitors are also tired of the bickering. We get reports all day about the antics of a small minority of people and are forced to deal with them.

7. The release of the unlocker has never been labeled a "black sheep". The staff are trying to ensure that its release and the members efforting its release are afforded respect and consideration....as we do with all members.

8. PPCGeeks is probably the fastest growing PPC site on the internet. We are in negotiations with carriers, manufacturers, and software developers...as such we will always strive to present our best image and most professional image (see #3 above) as there are huge benefits to gaining these relationships.

9. The staff can only do so much...we are constantly involved in a triage effort to determine which issues we may have to deal with. Trust me, there is a lot on this site that we don't see...and generally the only time you (the members) see us is when a dumpster fire like this erupts.

10. To everyone, please do not hesitate to contact us with any concerns, suggestions, gripes, etc. Believe it or not the majority of the changes that are made to this site come from your suggestions and complaints....so please keep our inboxes full.

late,
Coz __________

[jathomas0910]

Thanks CozBoogie....that makes me feel a lot better and a part of this community...I can only guess the stress you guys are under, I wont be so quick to pass judgment going forward

[CozBoogie]

Originally Posted by jathomas0910

Thanks CozBoogie....that makes me feel a lot better and a part of this community...I can only guess the stress you guys are under, I wont be so quick to pass judgment going forward

You (and everyone) are indeed part of this community...and as part of this community we expect y'all to act like adults and to be considerate and respectful. I don't think that's too much to ask...is it?

late,
Coz

[Paragon]

Well said Coz. One of the worse things is to sit back and say nothing. this just leads people to their own conclusions, which leads to dissent or at least frustration.

You guys have been through hell that last few days, and for the most part (not always) have done what you could to control several hundred very anxious people.....thanks.

Dave