Bought new TP2 from ebay, got activated but now Sprint said it was stolen - Page 6

**Cicatrize** · #51 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SundayDuffer

Hello, first post here.
After reading this thread, i am scared....I just bought a used (2wks old) sprint tp2 off Ebay also. It's not here yet, but before i bought it, between the seller and i, we had 3 emails exchanged mostly regarding Clean ESN on the phone. He assured me that the phone has a clean ESN, and if it doesnt transfer to my line, I will send the phone back to him and he then will refund my money. I have kept these emails. Should i be scared and worried?

No worries, but here's the caveat...and it's been said many times in this thread:

PayPal is key.

If PayPal is involved, those eBay messages are proof of a written agreement between you and the seller that he will refund your money upon exchange if the ESN is not clean.

tmwes · #52 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by quid246

And this is why I will go without a TP2 until Verizon restocks, Ebay is not worth it.

Not all of us selling TP on eBay are out to rip people off. Some of us just want to make a couple bucks so we can buy a Droid...

My auction ends Sunday, and it is a 100% not stolen, used for 1+ month TP2 that I'm selling with all the extras...

animeva · #53 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:04 AM

so did you keep the phone? return it? took the loss?

BeanAnimal · #54 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrianh85

first off we not talking about a car(just wanted to ask who the hell buys a car from ebay)! we talking about a PHONE!!

Car, phone, electric guitar, whatever. Stolen is stolen.

As for people buying cars on eBay... A huge volume of NEW and USED car sales are conducted through eBay Motors every day. So many that part of the GM restructuring/bailout plan is to use eBay Motors as one of the prime sales points for the struggling Detroit auto companies.

You are clearly not well informed about many subjects that you speak about.

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when i said he would have a expecive brick on his hands i was saying he would have a phone that he couldnt use or activate on his plan!!

BECAUSE IT WAS REPORTED STOLEN! Trying to activate it on another carrier does not make it any less stolen. Your logic and advice here is severly flawed.

I don't care what the OP or you do, it is the "legal advice" that you have given that I have issue with.

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and looking at how long u have been a member u havent gone thought the process of getting a sprint device on verizon!

What does my post count or membership activation date have to do with my knowledge of phones, carriers, laws, ethics, intelligence or any other aspect of this conversation? Wow!

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and unless u are planning to keep the stock rom and only download official software on ur device, ur phone is in the legal gray area anyway!!

Again what does this have to do with the poor advice you have given? You know nothing about me or how I use my phone and it has no bearing here.

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three get a life or at least try to contribute something usefully to this community instead of playing jugde dred "i am the law"...
...this is getting played and it kind of childish!!

I am contributing to this forum. I clearly pointed out that your advice was terrible and should not be followed

chong67 · #55 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:43 AM

I just called the Sprint fraud dept.

He even know the seller name and ask me if thats the correct name. I gave him the seller ID on ebay.

He said there is nothing wrong with what I did. He said I am free to use it and I can sell it next time. My account is good and he said nothing is going happen at my end.

**apristel** · #56 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:54 AM

Glad everything worked out in your favor.

ACHlLLES · #57 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 11:56 AM

good to hear that

Isror · #58 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Isror

You are clearly missing the point and clearly not well informed with regard to law. The property laws in Arizona and similar jurisdictions are to help protect people who are sold stolen property without their knowledge. It does not make it legal or ethical to sell that stolen property or alter it to make it appear legal. It does not allow you to just keep stolen property becuase you were scammed. They laws simply keep you from being charged with a crime for having the stolen property. Use some common sense folks.

Actually I am clearly informed to the laws in Arizona, I'm still POST certified from my time with the Tucson Police Dept. I've dealt with similar issues with stolen merchandise, and if you are now the legal owner of the device because you were deceived, in the state of Arizona, you are entitled to retain the property you purchased, but thanks for playing.

Isror · #59 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chong67

I just called the Sprint fraud dept.

He even know the seller name and ask me if thats the correct name. I gave him the seller ID on ebay.

He said there is nothing wrong with what I did. He said I am free to use it and I can sell it next time. My account is good and he said nothing is going happen at my end.

Good to hear a happy ending to this ordeal, and congrats on the TP2

BeanAnimal · #60 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chong67

I just called the Sprint fraud dept.

He even know the seller name and ask me if thats the correct name. I gave him the seller ID on ebay.

He said there is nothing wrong with what I did. He said I am free to use it and I can sell it next time. My account is good and he said nothing is going happen at my end.

Which makes perfect sense. They would have no reason to blame you or tag your account for any reason. As mentioned, the worst that would happen is that the ESN would be permanently flagged and you would need to get another phone. On the other hand, I would imagine the seller is in for a bit of a shock if he did attempt to file a stolen claim on the phone.