HTC PRO 2 Proper 2d/3d Drivers

[gTen]

I actually built a pc this week for 900$ budget for my friend..it ended up 850$ due to reason below, here are th specs:

core i7 920
RD4890 OC ATI
3gb PC3-15000 triple channel ram (he didn't have a 64bit OS and we decided to wait till W7 comes out otherwise I would have gotten 6gb)
MSI X58 PRO-E
600W OCZ power supply modular (The 750W were out of stock ..but 600W should be plenty anyways since he doesn't plan to CrossfireX )
Thermaltake case
1tb HD Western Digital
22x samsung DVD bruner

[jethro_static]

Ex has a better PC than a PS3 Only problem is, It only play 1 game better than PS3. HAHAHAHAH. Foot on ur mouth!

[Exil3d]

Back on topic. I argued you fairly and won. Proved you wrong and you proved yourself wrong. U asked "Prove me PS3 is slower than any PC... I proved it and you failed. All in all.. a good night. Now.. I muist sleep with a smile in my face. good night Jethro.. nice try. Try again tomorrow. good luck.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by Exil3d

Back on topic. I argued you fairly and won. Proved you wrong and you proved yourself wrong. U asked "Prove me PS3 is slower than any PC... I proved it and you failed. All in all.. a good night. Now.. I muist sleep with a smile in my face. good night Jethro.. nice try. Try again tomorrow. good luck.

He keeps saying faster. HAHAHAHA. Dude PS3 is not anywhere PC's gaming rigs specs. But PC's wil not beat PS3 in gaming. Even the other dude acknowledge that

[gTen]

Originally Posted by jethro_static

It even say. Fallout 3 is not compatible with quadcore. So that gaming rig will not play fallout. HAHHAHA U fail miserably man.

I did not say anything about Fallout 3 jethro, I was just showing what rig you can expect for around $1000 since I got one recently. If you want to run fallout 3 you gotta run it with affinity or with tweaks...

As for PS3 performance..the processor in the PS3 is made specifically for gaming in a customized sdk.

The pc games have to run on top of windows, not to mention compatible with multiple hardware. Running the same game would require 10x the code necessary.

Component wise the PC would be superior, but it would not be able to take full advantage of its components as well as a PS3 could.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by Exil3d

Back on topic. I argued you fairly and won. Proved you wrong and you proved yourself wrong. U asked "Prove me PS3 is slower than any PC... I proved it and you failed. All in all.. a good night. Now.. I muist sleep with a smile in my face. good night Jethro.. nice try. Try again tomorrow. good luck.

I pwned U all night. U gained a lot of knowledge from me. I mean a Lot. I got nothing from U. Pls, research more on this stuffs. Don't explain what U think. Get the facts. After 3 years, Comeback with ur research and let talk about this topic ok.

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by gTen

I did not say anything about Fallout 3 jethro, I was just showing what rig you can expect for around $1000 since I got one recently. If you want to run fallout 3 you gotta run it with affinity or with tweaks...

As for PS3 performance..the processor in the PS3 is made specifically for gaming in a customized sdk.

The pc games have to run on top of windows, not to mention compatible with multiple hardware. Running the same game would require 10x the code necessary.

Component wise the PC would be superior, but it would not be able to take full advantage of its components as well as a PS3 could.

I apologize.I'm sorry. Its not for U. I thought Ex buiild that rig to beat PS3.
told him few pages back that a PC gaming rig will not beat a game console on gaming coz Gams have direct access on GPU. He said he's PC is better than PS3. IDK where he got that. LOL

[gTen]

The PS3 processor for example is so efficient at what it does that it can literally power the best super computer, read this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PS3...uter,5688.html

[jethro_static]

Originally Posted by gTen

The PS3 processor for example is so efficient at what it does that it can literally power the best super computer, read this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PS3...uter,5688.html

Yeah yeah. I know. I give U thanks for a good info on ur posts.

[fxacur]

Ok.. here goes my two cents... (by the way this is my first post on this forum and I am not an english writer so sorry if I make some mistake)

I will try to sumarize my opinion... Video drivers make a diference, the amount of diference is gonna be seen depending on the utilization of the device. As much can i see I if you are only going to use the TP2 as it comes and use TouchFlo3d it does not matter because it must have code opimized to the MSM7200 or MSM7600 (thats why I think touchflo3d does not works on the ommia II as it has other CPU from TI). If it is Optimized to the Qualcomm chipset it MAY have 3d calls embeded on it but as it is not a driver other appz cant use it only touchflo3d (as I am reading it, if the problem of drivers to HTC is a matter of licence, they can make a appz that uses 3d calls but cant make a driver so other appz can use the 3d aceleration).

I had an DELL AXIM 51V and it really fly round's on other PPC's because it had a dedicated video card (Intel 2700 ore something like that)... By the way WM6.1 is faster that WM5.0, and as it seems WM6.5 is faster that WM6.1 BUT after certan revision of kernel of WM6.5 the AXIM had some problems with color's because the DRIVERS are very old and cant be developed more, as they are not making any more chipset with it...

Now using propely the video part of the Qualcomm Chipsets are benefitial for every one... (meaning having 3d/2d drivers)
1. Qualcomm chipset 7200 and 7600 are not very fast even my Axim had a faster CPU (it's a diferent architecture so it is comparing apples to pies.. but talking about mhz it is faster on paper)... So any CPU cycle you spend drawing the screen it takes CPU time for doing other things...

2. It would cosume less current, as the cpu will be more time idling , the Graphics (GPU) unit is better suited to process video/3d/2d funtions because of the nature of the information...

3. TP2 users payed for a hardware that is intentionality disabled...

4. It is not cheap.. they are charging a lot for old hardware.... at least they should implement it propely...

ok.... now some may argue why i dont to and buy a Omnia II... man I do really like the form of the TP2 , I like the keyboard, I like the Touchflo3d, and havent found other damn phone that have GSM/CDMA (both radios)... ...

I dont think HTC will ever release the drivers... because... well they were very smart with the anoucement they made.. It is not a device planed to be used for 3d... I think most business people (corporate type) dont go messing with the phone and making use of all of it... Also you would not have a incentive to purchase the next phone they will make (a Tegra or a Snapdragon with proper drivers, that i am not very sure it is ever gonna happen)

But man I think even if you dont want the drivers you should care that you could have an excelent device it is only missing the drivers ... I would love to use Tomtom or IGO or Garming and having it rendering at full speed using the 3d part of the chipset i have already payed for, not getting poor performance on those aplication... even if you are not a games person it would afect you....

For me a perfect device would have one that is like the TP2, but with a dedicated video hardware (as both omnia II and TP2 have) but with proper 3d/2d drivers, GSM/CDMA as the TP2, and a AMOLED screen as the one on the Omnia II....

Ahh I was also forgeting, yes proper 2d aceleration MAY make the tearing disappear.. but is is a fine line it depends on how the aplication is written... as it can be CPU bound because of the number of files(depending on how it is writed), but with proper 2d aceleration may not happen because you have more CPU cycles available...