Sprint TP2, 3G new fees, forced new plans, no grandfather, no upgrade path

[teradog]

Originally Posted by gTen

This is why:
PPCGeeks.com » Sprint CEO’s Bonus Up 18%
If you were to take away this 1 guys salary..1,100,000 users would not have to pay $10 fees..

lol gTen, a classic as usual! True

Over 10 years?! wow.. ok, well that's very roughly $11,000 increase for me! A couple new Yugos!! :>))

[nerys]

I do not have a problem with sprint raising the price for new users.

I do not have a problem with sprint raising the price for new users who want to "upgrade" on sprint's dime.

WHAT I DO have a problem with and what SHOULD be illegal is sprint raising the price of placing restrictions on people who simply ESN CHANGE. ie they buy their hardware FULL PRICE outright (new or used) and simply want to MOVE service from one ESN to another ESN.

that should not be allowed in fact should not be legal.

an evo or an echo will NOT use any more data in my hands than my TP2 does. I gain NOTHING AT ALL for the massive price increase (about $6480 over 10 years)

they want me to pay an extra $6480 enough to BUY A CAR. hell in the right places you can buy a HOUSE for this much.

for what? absolutely nothing?? I am not getting more minutes that I need. I am not getting more data that I need I am not getting ANYTHING from sprint that I actually need. Not one single thing. Not even a discount on the phone. Nothing.

there is ZERO justification for this. period. not for ESN changes.

[nerys]

why can I no longer "edit" my posts? I click edit it comes up I make the change (for my second line I meant to say existing users upgrading so I changed new to existing) but when I click save it just spins the little icon on the save button forever. been doing this for over a week now.

[teradog]

Originally Posted by nerys

why can I no longer "edit" my posts? I click edit it comes up I make the change (for my second line I meant to say existing users upgrading so I changed new to existing) but when I click save it just spins the little icon on the save button forever. been doing this for over a week now.

lol... after reading your post 3 times, it still didn't make sense, figured that's what you meant.. exit browser, clear cache, log back on, try again. If still problems, switch between browsers, try IE, FF, Chrome, etc..

If still an issue, ask a moderator to check your account. We had an issue with a editor in the Energy FAQ I put together, (that gTen kindly setup for us :>)) not being able to edit his own entry in the wiki, I had to do it for him... he had edited it many times... wonder if there was a edit count max or something?

[nerys]

well I have been with sprint since what? 1996 1997 ? I still have my original sanyo 6000 and 6200's (still my favorite phone)

I think "total cost" 10 years is a reasonable value. so for you thats $1100 a year.

I don't even have a special plan. Just a plain jane sero plan that SPRINT OFFERED TO ME. I did nothing special to get it. I got a flyer in the mail that said HE sign up for this use "savings@sprint.com" for the employee address. Wish I still had that flyer.

I promptly signed 4 of us up for that plan. it was a no brainer. I have ALWAYS used "data" phones. I got a sanyo 8400 with the plan (very nice phone I used a LOT of data on that) but promptly switched to my PPC 6700 then to a few BB's then to the touch pro 2. I never upgrade. the only reason I got the 8400 was sprint required new phone purchase with the plane. IE had to get new phone new # etc.. for $36 a month NO problem byebye old number though it was not MUCH cheaper than my ORIGINAL plan (about $46) but got me unlimited texts. I already had 400 minutes and 7pm N&W and unlimited data from my original 1996 plan at $40 a month plus fees.

the sero plan was just $10 cheaper but again I was thinking long term. about $11 cheaper with fee's so $1100 cheaper over 10 years. (interesting amount ehh ??)

no special plans no special discounts no trickery no finagling to get a plan I should not have all plans sprint OFFERED to me and now they "alter" the terms at their whim. that should not be allowed.

new users sure existing users upgrading sure. you want sprints dime you get sprints terms.

but when I buy outright and simply ESN swap sprint should have NO SAY in what phone I use if its tech compatible (and the evo IS it has 3g and 4g 4g is optional and not available where I am turn it off I don't want it)

again my ONLY issue is for straight up swap ESN change users. we should not be forced into new plans OR limited on what hardware we can use.

[rrjskj]

yep very confusing indeed but i get what ur saying .. i dunno maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm not i just think it's bs that on top of what ur already paying for unlimited everything that it's no longer unlimited data till you upgrade and pay a $10 premium data add on per month not saying sprint is worser then vzw, at&t or tmo but it's just gotten a little bit nuts in my opinion and i guess i won't be upgrading anytime soon so i gotta keep my tp2 gaurded...

[briggs]

4G is the most misused term in the industry, without doubt.

[nerys]

well see I do not compare sprint with verizon. I compare sprint yesterday to sprint today. IE what I was paying yesterday to what they want me to pay tomorrow.

I don't care if its cheaper than vzw or tmo of whoever. I care that its MORE than what I was paying for NOTHING EXTRA I NEED OR WANT. ie exact same service. There is no reason for that to cost more except pure greed.

[r3v0]

Originally Posted by nerys

well see I do not compare sprint with verizon. I compare sprint yesterday to sprint today. IE what I was paying yesterday to what they want me to pay tomorrow.

I don't care if its cheaper than vzw or tmo of whoever. I care that its MORE than what I was paying for NOTHING EXTRA I NEED OR WANT. ie exact same service. There is no reason for that to cost more except pure greed.

^^^^^AGREE, why are you charging me more when my plan does everything an everything plan does, minus the unlimited minutes?

IMO, this will create a black market for phones. ESN swaps and clones. I dont want to do anything really illegal (stealing phones), i just want to clone my ESN on one of those newer phones (of course i will buy it) as my TP2. Too bad its illegal to still do so . BUT i know it has and can be done, and quite frankly i wouldn't mind if someone could do this for me.

[rrjskj]

Originally Posted by nerys

well see I do not compare sprint with verizon. I compare sprint yesterday to sprint today. IE what I was paying yesterday to what they want me to pay tomorrow.

I don't care if its cheaper than vzw or tmo of whoever. I care that its MORE than what I was paying for NOTHING EXTRA I NEED OR WANT. ie exact same service. There is no reason for that to cost more except pure greed.

lol i agree with ya man ..

Originally Posted by r3v0

^^^^^AGREE, why are you charging me more when my plan does everything an everything plan does, minus the unlimited minutes?

IMO, this will create a black market for phones. ESN swaps and clones. I dont want to do anything really illegal (stealing phones), i just want to clone my ESN on one of those newer phones (of course i will buy it) as my TP2. Too bad its illegal to still do so . BUT i know it has and can be done, and quite frankly i wouldn't mind if someone could do this for me.

lol i don't think any1 wants to take the risk on doing time behind that but it's definatly a good idea ...