New Sprint FAQ at BAW - Page 3

krohnjw · #21 (**permalink**) 12-08-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Genjinaro

I'm hoping to cure the memory itch via PPC Techs, 75/128MB is a power-users dream.
Its $130 I'm ready to cough up after the Rev. A ROM release is deemed stable.

Someone is doing mem upgrades on the titan now?

jph8tr · #22 (**permalink**) 12-08-2007, 01:39 PM

There have been posts here claiming that ppc techs say a RAM upgrade isn't possible, valid or not I don't know. There are bt issues with this phone, there have been bt issues with EVERY device I've owned! Some didn't affect me, but they were there. Up until 2.17, I was running WM5 and the phone worked great with some slight bt and battery life issues. If the lack of RAM is so bad, maybe Sprint/HTC should look into developing a WM5 ROM. OTH, I switched to 2.17 and so far my phone is working really well so maybe there is life in the WM6 world after all. I commend Sprint on their candor. Asking for beta testers is something they should have done long ago, as should all the telco's. There would be far less issues with these devices if the telcos opened up the walled garden gates a bit and let in some fresh air!

Lets face it, the average user who mainly uses the built in features of the phone is not going to have many problems. The "power user" who wants their device to do everything imagined instantly is never going to be happy with any device currently on the market or probably ever on the market. We have to learn to revel in our own misery!

TC1 · #23 (**permalink**) 12-08-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tannis

FOr crying out loud people.... Grow a brain! With the gazillions of BT accessories out there yes your going to have some compatability issues. No one device is compatable with every single BTT out there.

Follow this scenario and see if you can "grow a brain".

You are absolutely right there are many permutations of BT accessories and BT phones.
You are absolutely right that there will be compatibility issues based on the thousands of combinations possible.

Now.... is it the customer's responsibility to test for all those permutations to find a compatible device? How much time, money, and effort is reasonable to expect of the customer to invest? Is it one hour? One day? Weeks? Months? Well?

Sprint has a testing lab. They have R&D money to support any given product launch. It might cost them about $5000 in materials and about $4000 in labor to buy about 50 different BT headsets, test them, and either say yes or no on compatibility. Publish the list, case closed.

veblen64 · #24 (**permalink**) 12-08-2007, 03:15 PM

Sure, Sprint should do that, but it's probably not going to happen. On the other hand, we have the resources to pool our knowledge and experiences in this forum and assemble a useful list of BT devices and information about how well each model works with the Mogul. This has been done nicely in these forums for other PPCs/Smartphones, but I'm not sure it's really been done comprehensively for the Mogul, even though the Mogul is probably the quintessential example of a device that is crying out for such a resource.

If such a thread exists already, it might be a good idea to make it a Sticky. But the closest thing I've find to what I'm talking about is this thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=5221&page=19

Touch999 · #25 (**permalink**) 12-08-2007, 03:20 PM

Very nice article. I hope the Touch gets GPS soon. For some reason i think they will clamp down on a True GPS Stand alone feature and just give us the suscription based service. DAmn........

**Malatesta** · #26 (**permalink**) 12-08-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Touch999

Very nice article. I hope the Touch gets GPS soon. For some reason i think they will clamp down on a True GPS Stand alone feature and just give us the suscription based service. DAmn........

Maybe, but the Moto Q9c on Sprint has "open" GPS on it. You can use Google Maps, Live Search, etc. No hacking needed.
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Back to the other issues in this thread...

BT is a finicky standard, but don't let HTC off the hook completely. I think Motorola devices have shown how to do BT right and lots of other devices do have better implementations.

My guess: HTC cheaps out on BT radios, like Palm used to do. Software solutions (i.e. Firmware/Roms) can only go so far to alleviate the repercussions of that choice.

Still, overall...this Sprint interaction with the community is *very good*. I've learned more about Sprint in the last few weeks than in 10 years, so I hope they continue this sharing of information and interaction.

markgamber · #27 (**permalink**) 12-08-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tannis

FOr crying out loud people.... Grow a brain! With the gazillions of BT accessories out there yes your going to have some compatability issues. No one device is compatable with every single BTT out there.

Years ago I had a SonyEricsson phone that worked flawlessly with every bluetooth device I ever threw at it. It never once missed a beat. Even my old T-Mobile MDA was a magnitude better than this as it worked just fine with my Motorola headset, GPS, laptops and whatever else I paired it with. All these years of making PDAs and after three failed systems for this phone alone and HTC still can't get this thing to stay connected to a headset I've used with several other phones without a problem. What's their excuse? I'd really like to hear it because I could use a good laugh. There is a bluetooth standard which is why all those devices have worked so well with every phone I've ever owned up to the Mogul. It's been around for a while, too. Did anyone bother reading it? Were they high when they read it? Was the Mogul an intern project for undergrads? I might give HTC the benefit of the doubt if bluetooth was the only problem but what about roaming problems? Or that the phone has half the memory it needs to run itself decently, let alone anything else? Or that DirectDraw sucks and streaming video that uses it is barely watchable on the best of days? No, it should work with everything in my house just like other far less expensive phones have and I think you're aiming the pointless insults in the wrong direction.

**willysp** · #28 (**permalink**) 12-08-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tannis

FOr crying out loud people.... Grow a brain! With the gazillions of BT accessories out there yes your going to have some compatability issues. No one device is compatable with every single BTT out there.

Can you please point me to the place in this thread where anyone said they expect every device to be "compatable [sic] with every single BTT [sic]"? I don't recall myself or anyone saying that.