Big time noob question

[dahray02]

Sorry, but I just need to make sure i'm headed in the right direction. Since I see sling player is coming tomorrow, i'm going to go ahead and get the EVO hopefully this weekend. Now I've been reading forums and bookmarking threads but now its soo much stuff i need to make sure i have my steps right, i'm coming from WinMo.

So what I want is a fully rooted phone, and just the stock rom, but i want to remove the bloatware from the phone. Are these the right steps?

1) purchase phone
2) install android SDK
3) use toast method to do full root and unlock nand found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835

or it seems i can use this SimpleRoot...i think:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411

4) now heres where it gets tricky for me...the phone should be fully rooted, can i just uninstall the software/bloatware that i dont want on the phone? or do i have to flash the stock rom before i can make changes?

5)after all of this, do I stay away from all OTAs? or can I do them with peace of mind?


thats pretty much it, i dont plan on flashing a custom rom till 2.2 drops, so my plan for the phone is pretty simple rooted stock without bloatware. thanks for any help, and hopefully this thread helps someone else as well...like i said i dont need help with the actual steps, i have bookmarks for how to do them...i just need to know i got the steps right and i'm not missing anything

[fenixjn]

Well you are in the right track.. only thing to keep in mind is that you will need to remount the system partition before you can start deleting stuff from it. Then you can remove the useless apps. Be careful with what you remove. Once gone you cannot go back unless you reflash.

Sent from my EVO

[apristel]

Originally Posted by dahray02

Sorry, but I just need to make sure i'm headed in the right direction. Since I see sling player is coming tomorrow, i'm going to go ahead and get the EVO hopefully this weekend. Now I've been reading forums and bookmarking threads but now its soo much stuff i need to make sure i have my steps right, i'm coming from WinMo.

So what I want is a fully rooted phone, and just the stock rom, but i want to remove the bloatware from the phone. Are these the right steps?

1) purchase phone
2) install android SDK
3) use toast method to do full root and unlock nand found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835

or it seems i can use this SimpleRoot...i think:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411

4) now heres where it gets tricky for me...the phone should be fully rooted, can i just uninstall the software/bloatware that i dont want on the phone? or do i have to flash the stock rom before i can make changes?

5)after all of this, do I stay away from all OTAs? or can I do them with peace of mind?


thats pretty much it, i dont plan on flashing a custom rom till 2.2 drops, so my plan for the phone is pretty simple rooted stock without bloatware. thanks for any help, and hopefully this thread helps someone else as well...like i said i dont need help with the actual steps, i have bookmarks for how to do them...i just need to know i got the steps right and i'm not missing anything

Personally I would go with the

1) purchase phone :-)
2) install android SDK
3) use toast method to do full root and unlock nand found here:
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835

but stick step 1.5 to be install HTC Sync to get the drivers on your pc...unless you have another android and already have the drivers....

You will need to be fully rooted to remove the sprint apps/bloatware..

Until the 1 click rooting thing gets better I wouldn't use it. Just because you don't really know what its doing and where its leaving off when it blows up. Just a piece of mind I guess.


Oh and yes stay away from OTA's... usually a dev on XDA will make a "safe" version that you won't lose your root status.

[dahray02]

Originally Posted by fenixjn

Well you are in the right track.. only thing to keep in mind is that you will need to remount the system partition before you can start deleting stuff from it. Then you can remove the useless apps. Be careful with what you remove. Once gone you cannot go back unless you reflash.

Sent from my EVO

u lost me there...i just checked my bookmarks and it seems i dont have a good explanation on how to do this

[dahray02]

Originally Posted by apristel

Oh and yes stay away from OTA's... usually a dev on XDA will make a "safe" version that you won't lose your root status.

so everytime an OTA comes out I have to flash the safe rom?

[apristel]

Originally Posted by dahray02

so everytime an OTA comes out I have to flash the safe rom?

You don't have too, but you will lose root most likely if you do an OTA.
The devs are very quick..and realistically there are not too many OTA's ever....

Oh and you can search on how to remove the stock apps and most guides will tell you how to mount the system like the post above suggests...

[fenixjn]

Originally Posted by dahray02

so everytime an OTA comes out I have to flash the safe rom?

No he meant that you should not flash the OTA directly... wait for the ROM developer to provide to you so you don't lose your root - superuser access.

also... yeah once you have root access you'll need to mount the system partition as writable. For that use and and type

 mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/mtdblock4 /system

Now you can remove anything from the system folder.

Sent from my EVO

[dahray02]

ahh i see...i understand now...preciate it

one last thing...having to mount i understand...but cant i just use ROM Manager to remove the bloatware, one of the bookmarks i have says i can use it