Sprint ok's FREE HOT SPOT on 2.2 and teethering

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by ace741

Not sure what data bucket plans are. Right now they are going from 3G capped to 4G uncapped. Way to early to tell what plans will be like in 3 years. You can't deny that in almost any technology to get the latest and greatest it will always be more expensive. If you want to save money, you'll have to stick to older technology.

It is not capped right now. My plan says it is unlimited, my usage (both online and on my bill) say my data is unlimited, and I have went over 5 GB plenty of times with no problems from Sprint.

The 5 GB limit is on data cards and phone as modem plans. The everything plans have no data cap.

[MordyT]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

It is not capped right now. My plan says it is unlimited, my usage (both online and on my bill) say my data is unlimited, and I have went over 5 GB plenty of times with no problems from Sprint.

The 5 GB limit is on data cards and phone as modem plans. The everything plans have no data cap.

Yeah, its a soft cap. Trust me it is capped, sprint just doesn't enforce it.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by MordyT

Yeah, its a soft cap. Trust me it is capped, sprint just doesn't enforce it.

No he is talking about data on the cellphone directly..not tethering..directly it is "unlimited"

here it is EXACTLY from sprints terms

Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Imbedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024 KB equal 1 MB. 1024 MB equal 1 GB.

There is no where on the terms about a limit for the phone itself...aka if you bit torrent directly on the phone and get over 5gb it is perfectly fine and not breaking the contract

[MrHawaii]

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

#1: I'm pretty...

Things sure sound different if they are taken out of context and/or misquoted huh?

[MrHawaii]

I am going to say this one more time. Show me where it is that Hesse said:

Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

4G would not have an extra charge...

He didn't, he said that 4G is cheaper than 3G. Reason being is that WiMAX cell sites are smaller thus costing less to build and maintain than CDMA cell sites. See my other post about this with a link to a video showing the differences for the cell sites of the different technologies.

If there is a device that just runs on 4G than the cost to run the network that powers that device would be cheaper than an identical 3G device with an identical network.

But that is not what we are dealing with huh? We are talking about a device that will operate on a 3G network and will operate on 4G network. It is using double the capacity, double electricity, double manpower for maintenance, etc. So of course the cost to run a 3G/4G device would be more to run just a 3G device or just a 4G device.

It's like having an import racecar. You can put in a better engine, turbo charger, etc. The cost of fuel to run that car would be cost of gas. Now, if you have those things and decide you would like to add a Nitrous line and tank. To run it at optimum you would need to pay for regular gas and the nitrous gas.

How would someone think adding something to something else would cost less than the original something?

[MrHawaii]

Exactly, if look at the exact quote below it starts with "4G", not 3G/4G! He is saying 4G will cost less than it's predecessor, 3G.

If you look at his analogies of home interenet getting faster and faster while the price being higher. When you had (if you had) dial up at home and then you switched to low speed DSL, did you still use both dial up and DSL? No, one would just use DSL. If you had DSL and switched to a cable modem, did you continue to run DSL while using the cable modem? No, you would just use cable modem.

Now if you used a cable modem and DSL wouldn't you be paying more than either service alone? Of course you would because you would be using two services.

End point, Hesse was talking about the performance of 4G alone being better than while costing less than 3G alone.

Originally Posted by tool2269

of course thats out of context...heres exact quote:


"4G, we can offer because we can produce a gigabyte cheaper, we actually offer more. A good analogy that has been used for 4G, and 3G, and 2G, is kind of moving from Dial-up data at home, to low speed DSL, to a cable modem and then to faster speeds. Or in TV terms, standard def versus high def, but if you looked at those models, you paid more for faster speeds. You paid more for the HD channels. In essence what we're doing with 4G is we're throwing in the HD channels for free, because we're not charging any more (SUBTEXT ADDED for 4G than what we did/do for 3G) and we're giving customer's more."

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by MrHawaii

I am going to say this one more time. Show me where it is that Hesse said:

(4G would not have an extra charge)

(blah, blah, blah...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-sRcRf0CbA

He clearly says it will be free, and also says they are not charging any more for it. Those are his exact words, and you can see it for youself in that video.

[boredandtattooed]

Originally Posted by MrHawaii

How would someone think adding something to something else would cost less than the original something?

it costs the US 2cents to make the US Penny... costs more to make than its value..

and an EVO is no more capable of being a bandwidth hog than any of the other several 1ghz devices out already.... non 4G customers will barely be able to use more band than they already do now on current devices

[MrHawaii]

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed

it costs the US 2cents to make the US Penny... costs more to make than its value..

Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks. But I am not asking about value, I'm asking about cost.

Still, you are actually adding in to what I'm trying to explain. The cost to make one penny is worth more than the penny itself. So the U.S. Government is eating the extra cost of the penny.

Why would a think a company out for profit in a free market would eat the cost of anything?

Show me where:

The cost of A plus the cost of B equals AB. Cost AB equals less than cost of A or cost of B.

A + B = AB
AB = <A
AB = <B

There may be a situation where the above is true, I just can't think of one. We are getting away from my issue with the discussions, which is Hesse never said what others are saying he said. They are either misunderstanding it, misquoting it, or taking it out of context to back what they feel and want.

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by MrHawaii

Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks. But I am not asking about value, I'm asking about cost.

Still, you are actually adding in to what I'm trying to explain. The cost to make one penny is worth more than the penny itself. So the U.S. Government is eating the extra cost of the penny.

Why would a think a company out for profit in a free market would eat the cost of anything?

Show me where:

The cost of A plus the cost of B equals AB. Cost AB equals less than cost of A or cost of B.

A + B = AB
AB = <A
AB = <B

There may be a situation where the above is true, I just can't think of one. We are getting away from my issue with the discussions, which is Hesse never said what others are saying he said. They are either misunderstanding it, misquoting it, or taking it out of context to back what they feel and want.

Did you watch the video I posted? He clearly says it is like getting HD from the cable company, and then says but they charge extra to get HD- with 4G we're giving you HD for free, because we're not charging any extra...

Last I checked, you still get the SD channels when you upgrade to the HD package. So your whole point is wrong.