official evo 199 at sprint june 4 realese date!!!

MiniEOD · #1 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBundo

I think I'll exercise self-control and WAIT, too. If I can't even use WiFi at all without paying $30 a month, it's a deal-breaker, period. So I'll wait and see if the hacks work. I'm also aware that after a year or whatever, this phone will be "crap", just like everyone is now whining about the TP2 (yet it was so great when it came out). This pattern repeats over and over.

wifi is built in and usable as a feature of the phone....

dont see why everyone is so confused here.... it is 29.99 to activate the 4G mobile hotspot ability...

so... Wi-Fi IN is free... like connecting to your home/school/work network

and.... Wi-Fi OUT is 29.99 ... to connect your PC/laptop/DS/etc to your PHONE'S cell signal as its own wi-fi connection (ie, tethering)

but like many have said, just root the phone when its available...who needs to connect 8 laptops?

**BlackDynamite** · #2 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniEOD

wifi is built in and usable as a feature of the phone....

dont see why everyone is so confused here.... it is 29.99 to activate the 4G mobile hotspot ability...

so... Wi-Fi IN is free... like connecting to your home/school/work network

and.... Wi-Fi OUT is 29.99 ... to connect your PC/laptop/DS/etc to your PHONE'S cell signal as its own wi-fi connection (ie, tethering)

but like many have said, just root the phone when its available...who needs to connect 8 laptops?

Not according to Sprint's documentation....

The exact text says:

"Sprint Mobile Hotspot add-on required to access Wi-Fi on device."

Has Sprint even hinted anywhere that this might be an error?

MiniEOD · #3 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Not according to Sprint's documentation....

The exact text says:

"Sprint Mobile Hotspot add-on required to access Wi-Fi on device."

Has Sprint even hinted anywhere that this might be an error?

i have zero clue where that image is from, though i have seen it floating around

i cant find that on their website, its not in their SAVE THE DATE email they sent out yesterday, and its unheard of from sprint reps and best buy reps

i believe that is a misprint ... its ludicrous to even entertain the idea of charging to use wifi features the phone...

since i cant find that anywhere, this is from the email i received from sprint:

**BlackDynamite** · #4 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniEOD

i have zero clue where that image is from, though i have seen it floating around

i cant find that on their website, its not in their SAVE THE DATE email they sent out yesterday, and its unheard of from sprint reps and best buy reps

i believe that is a misprint ... its ludicrous to even entertain the idea of charging to use wifi features the phone...especially since that advert mentions nothing about wi-fi tethering / mobile hot spot, i assume that is what it means

It's the fine print at the bottom of www.sprint.com/evo and if it was a misprint, then they would have addressed it by now.

MiniEOD · #5 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

It's the fine print at the bottom of www.sprint.com/evo and if it was a misprint, then they would have addressed it by now.

well touche... i dont know... i cant believe they would make it mandatory to charge 29.99 for the sole purpose to use wifi from your own network on the machine.

the way i read it:

"sprint mobile hotspot add-on required to access [htc evo 4g's] wifi on [a separate] device"

**WarChild** · #6 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniEOD

well touche... i dont know... i cant believe they would make it mandatory to charge 29.99 for the sole purpose to use wifi from your own network on the machine.

the way i read it:

"sprint mobile hotspot add-on required to access [htc evo 4g's] wifi on [a separate] device"

Thats how I took it as well.

CW

**BlackDynamite** · #7 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniEOD

well touche... i dont know... i cant believe they would make it mandatory to charge 29.99 for the sole purpose to use wifi from your own network on the machine.

the way i read it:

"sprint mobile hotspot add-on required to access [htc evo 4g's] wifi on [a separate] device"

Even if it said that, it means the same thing. If you are accessing your own home network via WiFi, then your own home network WiFi router also has access to your Evo via WiFi.

Communication has to be 2 way in order for it to work.

Evo to home router: I want to see this website.
Home router to Evo: Here it is.

Not much different from
Router to Evo: I want to see this website.
Evo to router: Here it is.

MiniEOD · #8 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Even if it said that, it means the same thing. If you are accessing your own home network via WiFi, then your own home network WiFi router also has access to your Evo via WiFi.

Communication has to be 2 way in order for it to work.

Evo to home router: I want to see this website.
Home router to Evo: Here it is.

Not much different from
Router to Evo: I want to see this website.
Evo to router: Here it is.

eh... not really... the difference here is that the phone, like many phones now, have a wifi antenna, which allows to connect to wifi signals, and then access that network for data reception (instead of the phones cellular data signal)

that is wifi

then you have mobile hotspotting...which is what clearwire currently has, who sprint is working with....

this is allowing you to take your phones cellular data signal and allow other devices with wifi antennas to access the stream.... transferring cellular data signal, through the phone, making your phone act as a router, and then picking up this signal on another device, to have broadband connectivity speeds

you can clearly see there are two very different things going on here

if you connect 8 laptops to your phone's hotspot, all accessing 4G data... its going to be a lot of data transferring through

thus, sprint is charging $29.99 per month to activate this feature... THIS feature

they will not ask you to pay 29.99 to connect to your home's wireless router and enjoy quicker speeds, it has no relation to sprint's data streams...in fact, it takes strain off of their network

these are two different types of wifi, and it will be easy to block your phone from acting as a wifi hotspot, while still being able to access your local starbuck's wifi signal

plus in your example, what does it matter if your router has access to your phone's wifi? your router is not going to use the cell signal to process data...it is strictly for hotspotting..where your device is working as a transmitter....

TL;DR in wifi use, the phone is a receiver of data only, using broadband wifi signals the same way your laptop would in order to stream data to the laptop / phone...in hot spot use, the phone is a transmitter and receiver of data, acting as a router itself, but instead of the router receiving signal through fiber optic or cable lines, it is receiving it through the 4G sprint towers

**Darkjedi** · #9 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniEOD

well touche... i dont know... i cant believe they would make it mandatory to charge 29.99 for the sole purpose to use wifi from your own network on the machine.

the way i read it:

"sprint mobile hotspot add-on required to access [htc evo 4g's] wifi on [a separate] device"

That's the way I believe it's meant to be read. Makes no sense that they would cripple WiFi, or have it even be possible to cripple WiFi, if you didn't have the 30$ addon.

**gTen** · #10 (**permalink**) 05-13-2010, 06:01 PM

What makes the $30 addon more dumb is clearwire offers for 40$ a month wireless....I mean it is quite silly...