Diamonds on eBay - Page 19

SComp23 · #**181** (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by boxermansr

Won't be at work until tomorrow. I'll PM you a phone number you can *try*. I haven't really read through all of yours posts, but did you end up getting a 50.00 charge, or are you just preparing yourself as a worst case?

If you're just preparing, I don't expect that even the email address I have will garner you the results you may want, they only seemed to want to help me, because it'd already happened. Either way, you can give it a shot.

Thanks a lot, I have the number to the Sprint Fraud Department, but if you have another one please send it this way.

I have not been hit with a charge, I don't have insurance on my phone, but truthfully to me, the charge is of least concern. It wouldn't be so bad if I got hit with a charge, but if someone else is taking a hit for me getting a new phone, that's wrong and I would like to prevent that from happening.

Sprint and Asurion seem to be a little flip towards this whole situation, in fact someone told me that this type of insurance fraud is practically impossible, so for my own peace of mind, I would like to escalate this as far as possible and get some answers.

Resolve · #**182** (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by boxermansr

That *looks* like the same seller as dmilton111, 2k9cantstopme, 2k8vegasgoin and his other 900 ID's. The only reason I say that is that the wording is exactly the same (for all of those ID's too), the 3-10 days to ship, and the tracking won't be available until it's delivered, etc.

I'd tell you to call Sprint or Asurion, but they'll tell you not to worry; that doesn't mean that at some point THEY won't contact you (it doesnt mean they WILL either).

Do you have insurance? If you don't you really *can't* be billed anything, but rest assured, someone elses insurance was most likely billed to fulfill the order for your phone, so someone down the line will be paying the 50.00.

If you DO have insurance, keep an eye on your account.. my theory (posted a few pages back), suggests that the seller is using person A's insurance to send person B their phone, then using person B's insurance to send person C their phone, and on and on (this does not apply if YOU don't have insurance, you can't be charged for something you don't have).

But, bottom line, there's a chance nothing will happen, then, theres also a chance something will. It boils down to if someone gets hit with the 50.00 charge for your phone, and how they pursue the matter.

Thanks for the quick response. Yea, it does looks like similar wording. Doesn't look like my sellers is listing any items now. If I were to try to get my money back what is the best course of action? Also, I'm pretty sure the seller will not respond to emails because if you look at the feedback every recent transaction said no communication.

boxermansr · #**183** (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolve

Thanks for the quick response. Yea, it does looks like similar wording. Doesn't look like my sellers is listing any items now. If I were to try to get my money back what is the best course of action? Also, I'm pretty sure the seller will not respond to emails because if you look at the feedback every recent transaction said no communication.

Did you pay via PayPal? I'd open a claim with them immediately. State that you suspect that you recieved stolen property. Chances are, the seller already has other claims against him - what's odd, is that for some reason, I couldn't view a list of his 'completed sales' (which you can usually see an entire list of all the stuff they've sold in like, the last month or so).. so that in itself is a bit fishy too.

Anyhow, open the claim with PayPal. They may, or may not require you to retrurn the device to the seller in order to get the refund, but I imagine if the seller doesn't even respond to the claim, there's really nobody PayPal can *make* you ship it back to.

That still wouldn't mean that you walked away with the phone for free (getting your money back, and getting to keep it), as Sprint or Asurion *may* come along and ask for it back. Nobody has reported this happening yet, but then, I don't think this has been going on long enough for many people to catch it just yet. I know I caught mine 10 seconds after I looked at my bill, and it was much higher than normal.

Resolve · #**184** (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boxermansr

Did you pay via PayPal? I'd open a claim with them immediately. State that you suspect that you recieved stolen property. Chances are, the seller already has other claims against him - what's odd, is that for some reason, I couldn't view a list of his 'completed sales' (which you can usually see an entire list of all the stuff they've sold in like, the last month or so).. so that in itself is a bit fishy too.

Anyhow, open the claim with PayPal. They may, or may not require you to retrurn the device to the seller in order to get the refund, but I imagine if the seller doesn't even respond to the claim, there's really nobody PayPal can *make* you ship it back to.

That still wouldn't mean that you walked away with the phone for free (getting your money back, and getting to keep it), as Sprint or Asurion *may* come along and ask for it back. Nobody has reported this happening yet, but then, I don't think this has been going on long enough for many people to catch it just yet. I know I caught mine 10 seconds after I looked at my bill, and it was much higher than normal.

Alright, I'm doing the claim as I'm typing this. I will keep posting to see what happens. Also should I do anything with Ebay and my credit card company. (Thanks again for your help, I'm new to doing these types of disputes/claims)

yettihead · #**185** (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 11:39 PM

I had a $50 charge against me and have filed with Sprint Fraud. It surprises me that some say sprint's fraud dept are not interested as they were very interested when I was explaining it to them. I did have to ask for the fraud department. They told me that I would be contacted within 7 days to inform me what is happening. I will post more as I find out more. If I don't here from them by Friday, I will be calling back. My account has been credited for the $50 already.

Chad

beestea · #**186** (**permalink**) 12-08-2008, 11:44 AM

Well its official, if you bought from lkcarter his auction was officially cancelled and his account is gone from eBay.

Did anyone actually get their phones from him?

froghat · #**187** (**permalink**) 12-08-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lawyeradam

On another note, I ended up buying a Diamond off Ebay from a power seller with 6 years of history and like 2000+ transactions and 99.8 satisfaction. Phone came straight from him - i received it 2 weeks ago. Interesting thing, he's now no longer a registered user - just like that. I haven't had any problems, the phone was brand new in original packaging and never opened. I just wonder why after being a long time ebayer he was pulled?

I had the same thing happen - I bought from ariasss1 (Natalia Draghi) and my phone came in original packaging with no Asurion markings at all. She had lots of positive feedback, but suddenly she and all her listings disappeared. A tech at the local Sprint store said he thought it was an insurance phone, so I opened a Paypal case. She responded that all her phones had come from "a Sprint store that closed". I have called both Sprint and Asurion but neither can tell me whether the ESN is okay.

SComp23 · #**188** (**permalink**) 12-08-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by froghat

I had the same thing happen - I bought from ariasss1 (Natalia Draghi) and my phone came in original packaging with no Asurion markings at all. She had lots of positive feedback, but suddenly she and all her listings disappeared. A tech at the local Sprint store said he thought it was an insurance phone, so I opened a Paypal case. She responded that all her phones had come from "a Sprint store that closed". I have called both Sprint and Asurion but neither can tell me whether the ESN is okay.

Why can't Sprint tell you if the ESN is ok? They have told me both over e-chat and the phone before.

froghat · #**189** (**permalink**) 12-08-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SComp23

Why can't Sprint tell you if the ESN is ok? They have told me both over e-chat and the phone before.

Asurion says they have no way to look up ESNs. Sprint says the ESN does not belong to a phone that has been reported stolen, but they can't tell if it is from Asurion or not.

SComp23 · #**190** (**permalink**) 12-08-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by froghat

Asurion says they have no way to look up ESNs. Sprint says the ESN does not belong to a phone that has been reported stolen, but they can't tell if it is from Asurion or not.

Yes, and to Sprint, that means the ESN is "fine", or so I've been told by numerous Sprint employees.