Diamond may be all I need

MobileBiz · #1 (**permalink**) 10-28-2008, 10:00 AM

I have a couple of weeks yet to decide, but after using the Diamond and reading about the Pro, I think I might stick with the Diamond.

The Pro has some really cool features.

Keyboard:
I come from Treo land and do miss the kb. I never really did type a lot though. It was quick and I used the many keys as shortcuts to get things done with one hand. The Pro doesn't appear to be the answer with its sliding kb but AE Button Plus could help some. I've never used a sliding kb so I'm not sure. I'm kind of getting used to the on screen full querty. I might get a bluetooth kb just in case. I always thought the Foleo concept was good. It was just way over priced, a little too early, and didn't need to be anything more than a terminal. The Redfly looks like the ticket. MS voice command and Jott for Outlook look promising too.

Storage:
I do not like the idea of being stuck with 4GB and no expansion but how long will it be before I want a new phone model anyways? I never filled up my 4GB card on my Centro. Here is where the possibilities get interesting. MS Mesh, ORB, online storage, usb drive on a Redfly, Slingbox.

Video Out:
The idea of doing a PowerPoint presentaions from my phone sounds nice. I probably would still end up using my laptop and my presenter so I wouldn't be tied to the projector by a cable. Seems like with the short power adapter cord that comes with the phone and a video cable you'd have to be right at the projector with the Pro while doing a presentation.

Camera Flash:
That would be nice. I don't take a bunch of pictures but I would like to have this feature. I would use it for a flashlight more than a camera flash. There are other ways. I used my Treo's for flashlights. Just need to set it up so a white screen can pop up easily.

Business Card Scanner:
I'm thinking that it would be kind of a novelty and that I'd have to correct stuff anyways. It seems like this would be possible on the Diamond with software?

I'm not trying to convince anyone other than myself. I'm just interested in other people's thoughts. I know that adding some of this stuff costs money. I just really really like the size of the Diamond. I keep picking up my Centro and asking myself if I actually want to go with something a larger an heavier?

**Riley** · #2 (**permalink**) 10-28-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MobileBiz

I have a couple of weeks yet to decide, but after using the Diamond and reading about the Pro, I think I might stick with the Diamond.

The Pro has some really cool features.

Keyboard:
I come from Treo land and do miss the kb. I never really did type a lot though. It was quick and I used the many keys as shortcuts to get things done with one hand. The Pro doesn't appear to be the answer with its sliding kb but AE Button Plus could help some. I've never used a sliding kb so I'm not sure. I'm kind of getting used to the on screen full querty. I might get a bluetooth kb just in case. I always thought the Foleo concept was good. It was just way over priced, a little too early, and didn't need to be anything more than a terminal. The Redfly looks like the ticket. MS voice command and Jott for Outlook look promising too.

Storage:
I do not like the idea of being stuck with 4GB and no expansion but how long will it be before I want a new phone model anyways? I never filled up my 4GB card on my Centro. Here is where the possibilities get interesting. MS Mesh, ORB, online storage, usb drive on a Redfly, Slingbox.

Video Out:
The idea of doing a PowerPoint presentaions from my phone sounds nice. I probably would still end up using my laptop and my presenter so I wouldn't be tied to the projector by a cable. Seems like with the short power adapter cord that comes with the phone and a video cable you'd have to be right at the projector with the Pro while doing a presentation.

Camera Flash:
That would be nice. I don't take a bunch of pictures but I would like to have this feature. I would use it for a flashlight more than a camera flash. There are other ways. I used my Treo's for flashlights. Just need to set it up so a white screen can pop up easily.

Business Card Scanner:
I'm thinking that it would be kind of a novelty and that I'd have to correct stuff anyways. It seems like this would be possible on the Diamond with software?

I'm not trying to convince anyone other than myself. I'm just interested in other people's thoughts. I know that adding some of this stuff costs money. I just really really like the size of the Diamond. I keep picking up my Centro and asking myself if I actually want to go with something a larger an heavier?

very good points. I am in the same boat as you. My 30 days with the diamond ends on november 7th but at this time I am sticking with it. I will never use more than 2gb of space so the internal storage doesnt bother me. Also, we all know the diamond has it challenges with battery (although not uncommon for this type of device) but I heard the touch pro will be even more taxing on the battery with less talk time. the keyboard is a challenge but I find the compact querty to work fine for me and is very quick. For now I am staying with the diamond. the only thing that would make me move is to go with the att fuze on gsm simply because I get better coverage in my house with gsm based phones(t-mobile, att).

IFMISM · #3 (**permalink**) 10-28-2008, 08:02 PM

the diamond is a great device. i have had it since it came out, but i will be getting the pro just for the expandable memory. i truly love the size and funtionality of the diamond, but i bothered me that when i took it into the store the guy just replaced the phone without telling me and transferred all my files. call it paronoia, but i don't know if he looked thru them or not. so i like being able to take the card out when i give them the phone. this is totally a preference thing. it may sound a little crazy, but i will give up the smmall phone for this. the kb and flash and tv out i will probably never use. i had a touch befroe the diamond and have grown to like the onscreen kb

worldaviator · #4 (**permalink**) 10-28-2008, 08:15 PM

I used to have the PPC-6700 w/ the slideout keyboard and really never used it. The device was bulky and certainly not a "pocket" pc. I usually used the stylus to do all my typing. Now that I have the Diamond, and have optimized my battery via registry edits and a few days of battery charging/utilization, my battery is working great! 4 bars for almost 16 hours, and I've done text msging, surfing the web for 15 minutes, voice calls totaling 30 minutes, weather updates, etc.

I thought I'd need external storage but 4gb is a lot for these devices. I do not intend on buying any songs from Sprint Music Store.

My Diamond has turned out to be a Best Friend.

AngryCPA · #5 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 12:46 AM

Hey guys,

Im in the same boat here, I have a Diamond on order from Sprint, but I purchased it with the intention of trading it in for a Diamond before 30 days. After holding both the Diamond and Touch pro at Best buy, i really like the smaller form factor of the Diamond. The TP is not much bigger, but its big enough to make a difference in your hand and in your pocket. The Diamonds rounded edges really make a big difference.

The biggest downer and what may ultimately cause me to trade up is the 4GB, nonexpandable memory. It baffles me how shortsighted HTC was on this one. Ive been using a Treo for the last few years with an 8GB memory card at near capacity. I keep videos and tons of music on it which I listen to at teh gym over A2DP. With only 4GB, I may have to rely more on ORB.

I'm going to give the Diamond the ole college try and we'll see what happens in a month!

docajay · #6 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 11:15 AM

Very interesting reading of everyone's opinions and much appreciated. I am also leaning towards keeping my diamond(also coming from a 6700 which I still like and use by the way).

I LOVE the form factor of the diamond, 4gb is enough for me, and I never used keyboard.

My question is what does everyone think of the internal storage memory diff between the diamond and the pro. My diamond had 46mb stock and I am up to 74mb after getting rid of the junk. I here the pro has 270mb. Is that a significant reason to change?

Ajay

MobileBiz · #7 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 11:24 AM

I've been wondering about the memory too.

**Riley** · #8 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by docajay

Very interesting reading of everyone's opinions and much appreciated. I am also leaning towards keeping my diamond(also coming from a 6700 which I still like and use by the way).

I LOVE the form factor of the diamond, 4gb is enough for me, and I never used keyboard.

My question is what does everyone think of the internal storage memory diff between the diamond and the pro. My diamond had 46mb stock and I am up to 74mb after getting rid of the junk. I here the pro has 270mb. Is that a significant reason to change?

Ajay

sorry to ask a question based off of your question, but how did you get rid of that much to get 74mb? I am sitting at 37mb available but do not know what to get rid of or how to get it off the memory. Let me know if you have a moment.

regarding your question, it is significantly more but I am hearing this may be overkill. plus the tpro must have more draw on the battery than the diamond which would be a turn off to me.

docajay · #9 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 11:39 AM

If u do a hard reset and after a reboot dont let it do the sprint customizations by soft reseting 2 times in a row u will buy yourself 20mb. Also get rid of the touch flow manual from windows folder(about 10mb). Theres other stuff too like ringers, alarms that i moved to the storage card. I also noticed the stock opera wants to load in internal memory but the new opera 9.5 beta only takes up half as much space if u tell it to install on storage card. There are some interesting threads on storage memory that I found all this stuff.

militaryman · #10 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by docajay

If u do a hard reset and after a reboot dont let it do the sprint customizations by soft reseting 2 times in a row u will buy yourself 20mb. Also get rid of the touch flow manual from windows folder(about 10mb). Theres other stuff too like ringers, alarms that i moved to the storage card. I also noticed the stock opera wants to load in internal memory but the new opera 9.5 beta only takes up half as much space if u tell it to install on storage card. There are some interesting threads on storage memory that I found all this stuff.

I tried to delete the .cab files for Picturemail, Navigation and Opera from the windows folder (moved them to internal storage first) but the "cut" and "delete" is greyed out. Any ideas why this would be?