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Noir 10-12-2007 08:33 AM

let me just say I was using a samsung i730 before I went through 3 replacements and was given an xv6700 for free from verizon and as soon as it came yesterday I installed the WM6 here. The hardest part about the install was getting the thing into boot mode. But once I got into boot mode, everything was flawless. The install was fast! the programming was fast. Everything worked so fast in wm6. I think I soft reset twice and that was because of palm threaded application and the registry tweaks for battery life I performed. You have made me a very happy new xv6700 owner. Big ups to you

rp3319 10-12-2007 09:03 AM

I was having a problem connecting to active sync (I use the wireless sync for PIM and emails, but needed the USB connection for file transfers - obviously). I fixed the problem by unchecking the "Enable Advanced Network Functionality" in the 6700 system settings/connections/USB to PC. Hope that helps other. Any insight on what this option is doing would be nice to know.

Chem E Sam 10-12-2007 10:54 AM

Hey i was on Dev 2 installed perfectly. but i tried to install dev 4 and it loads fine then gets stuck at the "Serial" screen tried reset, hard rest, tried reinstalling. nothign ... did i brick my phone?? any ideas what happened? ](*,)

Csquare 10-12-2007 11:06 AM

Try this thread first. It sounds like you are stuck in Bootloader mode.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=7049

Chem E Sam 10-12-2007 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Csquare (Post 100553)
Try this thread first. It sounds like you are stuck in Bootloader mode.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=7049


that fixed it thanks a ton!!!

mlcastro 10-12-2007 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verizonguy (Post 100225)
I have 3 xv6700s used for rom testing all running devel4 right now and haven't experienced either of those problems on any of the 3 apaches.

Try this to isolate things:
Flash devel4 to your phone again and then hard reset. Run it for 2 days without installing anything or putting anything on it other than contacts.

After 2 days, if you have no problems, install 1 application or item to your phone, give it a day, and if still no problems rinse and repeat (add another item) until you start seeing those symptoms again. This should give us an idea of what is causing the problems.

Thanks for the response =)

That's just it, I did the Devel4 upgrade and I haven't installed any applications on the phone at all. I have noticed that it does get just a tad better (response wise by about the 3rd day) but not much.

rp3319 10-12-2007 01:52 PM

I'm still having USB issues. it connects, but I can't transfer files over reliably. After a limited amount of data before the USB connection seems to hang. I end up having to reset the 6700 - it thinks it's still connected and can't disconnect (hangs). I wasn't having this issue before and I haven't been able to find any other fixes searching the forums. Thx for any help!

Csquare 10-12-2007 02:31 PM

Your welcome Chem E Sam

Gervy 10-12-2007 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlcastro (Post 100588)
Thanks for the response =)

That's just it, I did the Devel4 upgrade and I haven't installed any applications on the phone at all. I have noticed that it does get just a tad better (response wise by about the 3rd day) but not much.

Given no changes to what you install/uninstall, why would a phone change it's performance after a few days. It's not like a mechanical device that 'warms up'. As a network tech, this concept baffles me.



Gervy

aamon17 10-12-2007 03:38 PM

Thanks verizonguy for your hard work!

I'm on Dev 4 after, running 1 & 2. I am no longer getting email notifications from my DEFAULT Outlook/Wireess Sync account. My two (2) pop3 accounts get notifications, as set in the properties. But, the default account attached to Wireless Sync does not. I've done several hard resets & reloaded the release, still no notifications.

Any ideas what's going on? Anyone else experiencing this issue?

Robtao 10-12-2007 04:10 PM

Anyone having trouble with the in-ROM dialer slowing down the ring for calls? Still looking for a faster dialer or other solution, but found a partial solution:
Quote:
Originally Posted by the18thtee http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/images/sty...s/viewpost.gif
This is a known issue with the phone but is usually not related to the ROM. You need to change your Slot Cycle Index from 2 to 1 or 0. Do a search for Slot Cycle Index in the Apache forum for instructions.

Actually very helpful. Not exactly my solution yet, but speeds things up. Here is what the search led me to:
Originally Posted by fandi1 (Quoted by setite)
This was originalyy posted by "ELKAY" over on the pdaphonehome.com forums...

VERIZON directions

1. Open up the phone app
2. dial ##778
3. hit send
4. a screen will pop up asking for a code
5. enter 000000 ( thats 6 zeros)
6. click ok
7.You will be brought into the provisioning of your phone
8.From the top left, select Modem Settings.
9.On this page, your Slot Cycle Index (SCI) Your phone should have a 1 in that spot
10. Click edit change it to 0
11. click the ok button then the X in the upper right hand corrner
12. The VX6700 will restart and its all done...

That has sped up the process.http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/images/icons/icon10.gif 2 Cases:
1. Power off with Dialer closed (off screen) now 4 rings.
2. Power off with Dialer open (on screen) now 1.5 rings.
That is at least 1/2 ring faster in each case. Maybe more.

I am counting rings on another phone until I can hear and answer on my XV6700. Response to manual power up is fast. Power on when called is pretty fast. Recognizing the call, opening up the dialer, or ringing and allowing the call to be answered is slow if the dialer was OFF when the phone was powered down.
I want faster time from incoming calls when phone is OFF and phone dialer is not on-screen when powered down.

verizonguy 10-12-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Thanks verizonguy for your hard work!

I'm on Dev 4 after, running 1 & 2. I am no longer getting email notifications from my DEFAULT Outlook/Wireess Sync account. My two (2) pop3 accounts get notifications, as set in the properties. But, the default account attached to Wireless Sync does not. I've done several hard resets & reloaded the release, still no notifications.

Any ideas what's going on? Anyone else experiencing this issue?
I didn't change anything in any of my versions so far that would affect mail or notification. Sounds like a wireless sync issue maybe? I don't use it so not sure.

verizonguy 10-12-2007 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gervy (Post 100488)
That's a great solution.
[patient] - "Hey doc, it hurts when I move my arm like this."
[Doc] - "So don't move your arm like that."

I didn't write the task manager app--HTC did. If the person is having problems using it with some applications, they obviously aren't compatible and they have to choose between one or the other. Do you prefer that response?

Quote:

When I get a chance, I plan on ditching HTC HOME, which I think is the culprit, and loading back in SPB Mobile.
Anyone know a graceful way to stop HTC Home from loading? (If I remove it from the TODAY screen, is that like removing a program from STARTUP on a PC, it won't load at all? Or is part of it still in the background somehow?)


Gervy
It is a today plugin and can be disabled.

darufryda5 10-12-2007 05:01 PM

Quote:

When I get a chance, I plan on ditching HTC HOME, which I think is the culprit, and loading back in SPB Mobile.
Anyone know a graceful way to stop HTC Home from loading? (If I remove it from the TODAY screen, is that like removing a program from STARTUP on a PC, it won't load at all? Or is part of it still in the background somehow?)


Gervy

it sucks cuz i love the htc home plugin..i just wish it didnt slow down the phone so much...cuz its one of the best today plugins ive seen.

jacksplat 10-12-2007 05:26 PM

so, I fired it up and went to sync ActiveSync with my exchange server and it said there was not enough free memory to complete the sync. But I looked at the memory and it was pretty wide open and nothing else was running. Reverted back to Helmi's for now.

mlcastro 10-12-2007 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gervy (Post 100674)
Given no changes to what you install/uninstall, why would a phone change it's performance after a few days. It's not like a mechanical device that 'warms up'. As a network tech, this concept baffles me.



Gervy

Yeah, it baffles me too. The closest comparison I can draw is when you boot up a PC and it takes a moment (hourglass) to load any startup programs you have before it becomes responsive.

However, the PDA only improves *slightly* after a day or two.

The really strange part is how sliding out the keyboard makes it behave perfectly...what's up with that?

Oh and by the way, I did uncheck the HTC home page from the today screen options.

masters 10-13-2007 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darufryda5 (Post 100720)
it sucks cuz i love the htc home plugin..i just wish it didnt slow down the phone so much...cuz its one of the best today plugins ive seen.

Has anyone installed the newer version to see if it is any better?

cheesegrater 10-13-2007 09:40 AM

is there any way to boost the max volume on this thing? having spent the majority of my life army aviation my hearing isn't what it used to be.......
this is my wifes request by the way.... and she says I don't listen to a word she says...heh

n32jk 10-13-2007 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesegrater (Post 100961)
is there any way to boost the max volume on this thing? having spent the majority of my life army aviation my hearing isn't what it used to be.......
this is my wifes request by the way.... and she says I don't listen to a word she says...heh


Huh?????? Whatt???? I know the feeling....Rolls Royce Darts and Garretts got mine along with the CT7......but if you learn how to nod your head properly....not hearing your wife can sometimes be a good thing.[/I]

mrburns05 10-13-2007 10:33 AM

Thank you
 
thank you verizonguy for working on this, im using devel4 for 2 days now, no issues, no lag...Seems a lot quicker from the origional helmi release...Everything is working for me. keep up the good work, and thank you to the rest of the users in here for all the feedback to help this development go further..

tharris297 10-13-2007 11:22 AM

I've been experiencing what I will call "Bluetooth" disconnections since i started using WM6 (no matter if it was Helmi's original Rom or Verizonguy's versions). I use and love my Plantronic 655 Discovery headset. I have been testing this buy flashing between my custom Helmi WM5 1.0.4 Rom and all of Verizonguy's Rom.

It seems that Bluetooth turns it self off or timeouts on the WM6 roms. On my WM5 rom, the bluetooth never turns off, thus my headset always works. I have to use the Comm Manager to turn the bluetooth connection on and off multiple times a day and sometime I just have to softreset.

Any idea?

mmbhm 10-13-2007 11:37 AM

I'm experiencing the same type of bluetooth problems as tharris297, plus the dreaded play-for-a-couple-secs-cut-out, repeat, type of behaviour.

The other issue is the amount of CPU real estate that being used, 60-70% even after i've shut all the active processes down. Is this the HTC today screen? Doh! Hey - i could disable it and see! Me very bright.

By the way guys - this is not an exclusively male forum. It's not cool not to listen to your wife. We have ways of getting even, like making random registry changes.

robmayer 10-13-2007 12:19 PM

Anybody else having issues with Internet Sharing? If my signal drops while I am tethered to my laptop the connection will refuse to reconnect automatically. I have to kill the Internet Sharing app and start all over. It gives me the error "The remote party has ended the connection". I never had this on Kirvin's Clean and Simple WM5 AKU 3.5... it would wait for the network and reconnect on it's own. This happens on both Helmi_c's and Verizonguys ROMs. Any ideas?

cheesegrater 10-13-2007 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n32jk (Post 100967)
Huh?????? Whatt???? I know the feeling....Rolls Royce Darts and Garretts got mine along with the CT7......but if you learn how to nod your head properly....not hearing your wife can sometimes be a good thing.[/I]



ahhh, yes. but is there anything better..????????.............hmmmmmmmm
lycoming and ge weremost of what i dealt with. but i reckon thats for another thread... heh

verizonguy 10-13-2007 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmbhm (Post 100992)
We have ways of getting even, like making random registry changes.

hahaha That's awesome ;)

xv6700zj 10-14-2007 01:59 AM

Fixed IR Beam works in A4!!!! Thanks!

tharris297 10-14-2007 11:22 AM

Hey Verizonguy, have you noticed any of the Bluetooth issues with WM6? I'm just trying to see if it something with my hardware (Plantronics Discovery 655) or maybe something in the OS.

dem0d 10-14-2007 10:44 PM

A4 works great for me, don't really have any issues except....I set my camera and video mode to save to my SDHC card...and when i try to take a picture or record a video it says there is not enough memory on my empty 4GB card....and i tripled checked to make sure it wasnt recording to the Extended_ROM2. (also, full capacity displays in Settings>>memory>>storage card)

But it does work to snap a pic and save it to the main memory...then physically cut and paste to my card. I dont have a normal SD card, so not sure if its an issue with it being SDHC. Also, this is obviously not a crucial issue, but its a nice feature to have when im on the go.

cheers to verizonguy and helmi for a kickass ppc upgrade!

tharris297 10-15-2007 09:14 AM

After reading all the recent posts, looks like the issues with WM6 and Bluetooth are just a part of OS. I am also following Helmi's efforts on the Broadcomm Bluetooth drivers. I know he's probably tied up with WM6 Rom goodies, but the spotty Bluetooth connection is just a little frustrating.

TMB_XV6700 10-15-2007 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dem0d (Post 101642)
A4 works great for me, don't really have any issues except....I set my camera and video mode to save to my SDHC card...and when i try to take a picture or record a video it says there is not enough memory on my empty 4GB card....and i tripled checked to make sure it wasnt recording to the Extended_ROM2. (also, full capacity displays in Settings>>memory>>storage card)

But it does work to snap a pic and save it to the main memory...then physically cut and paste to my card. I dont have a normal SD card, so not sure if its an issue with it being SDHC. Also, this is obviously not a crucial issue, but its a nice feature to have when im on the go.

cheers to verizonguy and helmi for a kickass ppc upgrade!

dem0d,
The camera issue has nothing to do with the rom - failure to see partitions larger than 2MB has been default behavior for this camera since the initial release. The common workaround is to load up your card so that the available (empty) space is less than 2MB, then the camera will see it and save to it.

Gervy 10-15-2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tharris297 (Post 100989)
I've been experiencing what I will call "Bluetooth" disconnections since i started using WM6 (no matter if it was Helmi's original Rom or Verizonguy's versions). I use and love my Plantronic 655 Discovery headset. I have been testing this buy flashing between my custom Helmi WM5 1.0.4 Rom and all of Verizonguy's Rom.

It seems that Bluetooth turns it self off or timeouts on the WM6 roms. On my WM5 rom, the bluetooth never turns off, thus my headset always works. I have to use the Comm Manager to turn the bluetooth connection on and off multiple times a day and sometime I just have to softreset.

Any idea?

Having same issue, with same headset.
Weirder still, it shows the BT icon during my call, so the phone thinks BT is on, but is still using the phone/s handset.

Gervy

johnjirwin 10-15-2007 06:29 PM

Blue Teeeth problems!
 
I've been having the same KIND of problem with my BT set-up. I am not using a BT headset but rather a BT hands-free car mount (COMFORT BT Universal Car Mount V20) that SHOULD (and usually does) connect via BT to a hands-free mike and speaker ...works great and you don't have to wear a headset....

Anyway, my xv6700 connects (via BT) about 60% of the time when I start my car. When it fails, I simply turn OFF the BT on the 6700 and then turn it back ON and "presto"! The biggest problem I've been having is that the BT DISCONNECTS after a while (for no apparent reason). Most of my driving is a little over 1/2 hour in nature and most of the time it has disconnected by trip-end. I know it's not because of reception range since the 6700 is IN the cradle (as close as you can get to the BT). I never had this problem with WM5.

....BUT, I am finding that the MS Voice Command works 95% better (with WM6) in recognizing commands, especially on the VC contact verification sequence. With WM5 I had to ALWAYS repeat "YES" (or NO) several times when Voice Command was trying to verify my command ....to the point of turning blue and getting VERY "POed". ...a real sight to see for the outside world looking in at me! Thank you VerizonGuy and Helmi for getting my blood pressure under control!!!

BTW, I sync through my exchange server wirelessly and live my life on PI ...2,100 contacts with LOTS of details and very thick on appointment usage.

Any suggestions? Questions?

SeaRayMan
(John)

Schwartz 10-15-2007 06:29 PM

When You Try To Send MMS From Camera Phone Freezes

Supermanwoot 10-16-2007 10:12 AM

I like WM6, but I just can't recommend this to anyone. Since installing I have been unable to receive calls while a data connection is connected and my phone beeps even when on silent when it is searching for service which is SUUUUPPPEERRR annoying when I am at work or class. Just ridiculous.

Robtao 10-16-2007 06:13 PM

Well, after previously uninstalling BlueFrog Big Button Dialer, I found that my phone ring time did not improve, so I reinstalled it. Now the phone rings by the end of the 2nd external ring, no matter what. Great response, time, I am happy, but I wanted to be able to tell you guys what made it better, and I have no idea!! At least we know it is possible to get it down to 1 or 2 rings.

Robtao 10-17-2007 05:17 PM

I gotta say, this forum (especially Helmi, Verizonguy) has helped me arrive at a pretty butt kicking phone. I found a hack elsewhere for either more phone volume or more bandwidth, or both. My phone sounded pretty tinny before. Maybe those more experienced than me can add any cautions, or tips, but it is working great for me.

["Here's the hack, obtained [from Gornn] and other forum threads. Use at your own risk, this modifies a system area, and could cause unknown side effects. If I run into anything wierd I'm going to set it back the way it was. Basically I think this forces the phone to use more bandwidth on calls, something Verizon doesn't likely encourage. But my earpiece is definitely louder, a few times it was a little too loud.

First dial ##778
Tap on "Edit"
Enter Unlock Code 000000
Tap on arrow to upper left hand of screen to reveal drop down menu where it says "Display"
Select "CDMA Settings"
Click and hold on the "EVRC Enabled" line under the Settings column
Select "Edit"
Switch to "Disabled"
Then press "ok"
Click and hold on the "Home Page" line under the Settings column
Select "Edit"
Switch to "Voice 13k"
[Then Press OK]
Repeat for "Home Orig" and "Roam Orig"]

fitbryan 10-18-2007 01:05 PM

Any idea yet if any of the new official VZW 3.3 ROM stuff will make it into next release? Particularly radio 1.43 upgrade?

thanks!

darufryda5 10-18-2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robtao (Post 102410)
I gotta say, this forum (especially Helmi, Verizonguy) has helped me arrive at a pretty butt kicking phone. I found a hack elsewhere for either more phone volume or more bandwidth, or both. My phone sounded pretty tinny before. Maybe those more experienced than me can add any cautions, or tips, but it is working great for me.

["Here's the hack, obtained [from Gornn] and other forum threads. Use at your own risk, this modifies a system area, and could cause unknown side effects. If I run into anything wierd I'm going to set it back the way it was. Basically I think this forces the phone to use more bandwidth on calls, something Verizon doesn't likely encourage. But my earpiece is definitely louder, a few times it was a little too loud.

First dial ##778
Tap on "Edit"
Enter Unlock Code 000000
Tap on arrow to upper left hand of screen to reveal drop down menu where it says "Display"
Select "CDMA Settings"
Click and hold on the "EVRC Enabled" line under the Settings column
Select "Edit"
Switch to "Disabled"
Then press "ok"
Click and hold on the "Home Page" line under the Settings column
Select "Edit"
Switch to "Voice 13k"
[Then Press OK]
Repeat for "Home Orig" and "Roam Orig"]


i tried this and i didnt notice any increase in the volume

romulus15 10-18-2007 08:27 PM

Memory Leak
 
Anyone experiencing a memory leak on the phone?

If I reboot at about 8am, I usually have to reboot in the best case scenario by 8pm, usually at least once a day, often 2 to 3 times daily.

Symptoms the phone is going to need a reset soon:

1) The phone starts to slow down.
2) When I'm in an app and I click on the start menu, the start menu is green, not the usual blue.
3) When I close an open app, the today screen is white (some of the text is still visible).

Throughout the day, I only use text messaging and OTA ActiveSync, an occasionally the phone. If I had to guess, I'd say that there's an issue in either the Messaging app or in ActiveSync.

Anyone seeing anything like this or know how I can stop or reduce the leak? Or possibly figure out which app is causing the leak?

verizonguy 10-19-2007 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romulus15 (Post 102617)
Anyone experiencing a memory leak on the phone?

If I reboot at about 8am, I usually have to reboot in the best case scenario by 8pm, usually at least once a day, often 2 to 3 times daily.

Symptoms the phone is going to need a reset soon:

1) The phone starts to slow down.
2) When I'm in an app and I click on the start menu, the start menu is green, not the usual blue.
3) When I close an open app, the today screen is white (some of the text is still visible).

Throughout the day, I only use text messaging and OTA ActiveSync, an occasionally the phone. If I had to guess, I'd say that there's an issue in either the Messaging app or in ActiveSync.

Anyone seeing anything like this or know how I can stop or reduce the leak? Or possibly figure out which app is causing the leak?

It isn't a memory leak, but you're right about activesync. I haven't started looking at it yet, but when activesync is running forget about trying to do anything else. I'm sure we'll be able to fix it.


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