Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Believe me, I understand pressures. And please don't mistake what I have been saying. I am sure if you give it more thought, you will realize that you are confirming my points. You are just saying them in a different ways. With regard to much ado about little... I agree with that 100% until 21109 came out. That is the only build that made and real difference with the TP. I am curious to see if it does the same for the Apache. I dont care much if it does though... since I use the TP now... but there are others who might let me cook their phones for fun. Good luck in your endeavors. You guys have done some amazing work.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

TIME FOR A N00B QUESTION!!... OK, I keep seeing build numbers... where-oh-where, in the BuildOS (or, PPC-BuildOS) do you FIND them?!? For that matter, where do you find them for downloading them? Please, DON'T tell me to "install-and-update". DOESN'T WORK. Updater has been "finding" the latest BuildOS (.9.05.3.1), won't update. (for that matter, won't dl PPCKitchen OEM's. Gets to 99% the fails/rollback). I dl-ed Helmi_c's WM6 Kitchen, WORKS GREAT! However, which version? Don't know. Updateable? Don't know. Can I use "Updater" with it? Again, don't know. How about some N00B answers. And yes, I checked the N00B forum. And No, search fails (depending on the day, fingers crossed, position of tongue, etc.). About 25% of the time, in other words... temp-999

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

1) you pick them from within the NEWEST buildos (the one you downloaded and couldn't figure out) and Updater (updater downloads them, buildos uses them).
2) Update DOES work, just not so well. Try checking just one thing at a time. If that doesn't work, visit www.ppckitchen.org/Downloads and grab the files manually. It'll be much easier through updater for you.
3) Helmi WM6.1 is 19716. I don't know what build Helmi WM6 was (older, obviously).
4) Updater does not work with any other kitchen you may have found.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

[quote=gguruusa;635957]
2) Update DOES work, just not so well. Try checking just one thing at a time. If that doesn't work, visit www.ppckitchen.org/Downloads and grab the files manually. It'll be much easier through updater for you.

Yah... I've already done a one-by-one dl...
that's how I've ended-up NOT having .9.05.3.1 and PPCKitchens_OEM not being downloaded.
I also already tried doing a direct download (which is VERY hard to find if you've logged-in {downloads DON'T show in the page-bar when logged in}).

BuildOS still wants to update itself.
PPCKitchens_OEM still shows "new version available"

So... where am I messing up?

temp-999
addendum: PK_OEM gets to 99% done before fail/rollback, just in case I didn't mention it before.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

You're not messing up anywhere. You got the files manually, so the updater doesn't know the updates are "done" (it's not that smart). The problem with it getting to 99% then rolling back is known, though unknown why it occurs sometimes. If you grabbed everything manually, then ignore the update notice. If you'd like to tell updater what you've updated, have a look at c:\program files\ppckitchen.org\updater\section_buildos.xml.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I can confirm 20931 is a better Build than others before like 20924, and in most cases runs fine.

I like to build loaded roms, and I can confirm 20931 having certain issues of memory handling and speed when baking a full rom using older versions of Opera with memory hogging manila2D.

I can also confirm Build 20755 running both fast and more stable when cooking full roms and able to place more OEMs in, and best for running Manilla2D cooked in rom for Apache.

I can also confirm any rom running faster with "other" method of not using patches and running SPB safemode, but I DO NOT recommend it for the "average user" because it is not straight-forward and rather tedious steps to accomplish it. It would cause more questions than it's worth in performance.

I have since moved on to the TouchPro as well but will never 4get my Apache :)

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I too am having trouble with ppckitchen roms powering off after 4 minutes, as well as numerous problems with trying to get s2p working(power button shuts off device completely with s2u2; after about 30-40 min device powers off if idle but playing media). Ive tried going back to 20755 like everyone says, but that too now has all the problems(like others mentioned) where can i find a 20755 buildos, before the "create new project tab got added(and presumably when all the problems arose).


ppc6700, sprint

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Nothing to do with it. Your problem is how the power management features of WM are configurred. There's a post on how to fix it somewhere in this thread...too tired to search for it right now. As I recall, the solution is to turn off gwes power management and leave the other power management system alone.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

If you still have your apache, it'd be interesting to compare a normal process list against your safemode list.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

how come build 20755(or any other 20xxx) used to work fine but now it doesnt? also ya ive turned off gwes using the controlset..control..power registry thing. and it ruins battery performance, as well as the whole power button shutting off the whole device when using s2u2/s2p playing.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Nothing in that area should have changed, but I'll check the logs next chance I get. Not suprising battery life tanks - you're telling a whole subsystem not to enter standby.
You'll have to scroll back to where edufur says how he did it. A search might pull it up (edufur safemode).

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

yay, i got 20755 to work somewhat like it used to(i deleted all files in ppckitchen folder and started from scratch). i dont have to disable gwes and the 30-40 minute idle shutdown is gone. although s2u2 still doesnt work like it should(still shuts off with power button) but i can map s2u2 to run on a diffrent button and then let s2u2 turn off screen.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

In past, I have tried to duplicate the effect with other safemode progs, but only SPB worked.

The safemode list should give much insight as to whats going on and restarting, so yea , will do l8tr 2day when get home.

I had, deleted the patched folder from the rar file and I think from my textfile, when making the rom, and it was dog-slow just to get to bootup and into safe mode, then all went fine after...Problem is it will always be cripplingly slow on a hard reset, so SPB was cooked into rom for the safemode. trying without cooking in would take all day just 2 load a the cab!

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Well, here is my contribution to the cause. I don't use the Apache anymore but my girlfriend has my old one. Since she didn't want steady streams of cooking, tweaking, etc... and since she wanted a solid build, I did the following:

1. Removed the patches from the group or device file (dont remember which it was)
2. Created a build for 20755 (it is the fastest of ALL one the safemode trick is done)
3. Setup a perfect amount of selections to fill the build and stayed with the default pagepool.
4. After build complete and configured, installed SPB Pocket Plus (this process will take a while since the phone is currently VERY slow)
5. After install complete, reset phone.
6. Reset again within less that one minute of the previous reset.
7. Upon second reset, phone will prompt for safe mode boot.
8. Complete a safe mode boot.
9. Reset again for normal boot.
10. Uninstall SPB pocket plus (since your device is now very fast and you likely dont ever need that again... unless you like its features)
11. Every rebuild or hard reset will require repeating steps 4 -10.

Have fun.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I too studied the tutorials for using BuildOs to flash my Sprint PPC-6700. Unfortunately something went very wrong. After trying to "Build ROM" with different builds and getting memory available errors, I finally trimmed down the apps so that the memory problem became a non factor. There were a few dialog windows about overwriting an existing file to which I selected "yes."

The build finally completed successfully and the RUU ran and presented after about 5 minutes the "complete screen" about disconnecting my device and resetting. When I hard reset I see a screen asking for confirmations to either press "Y" to continue or "N" to exit. I press "Y" and "Clearing" appears, the screen goes dark and nothing happens. I press the power button and nothing appears to happen but the device evidently powers on because if I connect the usb cable to the computer it reports an unrecognized usb device.

The device is an old Sprint PPC-6700, bootloader is 1.00, pc is running XP SPk 2. Is it dead forever, or can it be revived? If it is dead, will it dream?

Thanks for any information...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

It's fine. put it in bootloader mode, then flash again. Try starting small (like clean) then adding, rather than huge and trimming till it just squeezes in.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Thanks! I will give it a try and report...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Thank you for saving my old 6700! Your suggestion worked wonderfully!
Any idea what happened to cause the problem? I installed a plain kitchen without any apps selected and the entire process took less than 7 minutes...

Thank you!

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Could be any number of things. Most likely, something you built in. If you can send me a selections.txt that demonstrates the problem, I'll be happy to diagnose it so others don't have the same problem.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

OK, sory for delay,
As you may know, my rom was cooked without the patches & using SPB method for correction.
I tried to find out why the SPB was working, and I didn't want whole OEM,
I made a small OEM with just the SPB safemode exe and 3dll files and registry.
It resetted but stayed slow and didn't give me the speed.
Same (no speed) results with another safemode prog that I made OEM of.
Only the whole PSB OEM worked so I assume, it must be something different how the SPB restarts..
It may also be the process list difference, I did not compare at the time.

Here is my process list of Safemode using SPB, then normal mode:

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Try it again, but this time don't cook in any extra stuff (except spb). Lean and mean is how to test.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Hm, still cant a kitchen to work like I used to have. The 20755 isnt even working well on my ppc6700:
1.(music playback shuts off randomly(sometimes the 4 minutes sometimes 40) I didnt do the gwes fix);
2. it is always turning on for no reason(screen comes on and I think im getting a txt or call but nothing happens);
3. activesync always comes on randomly(even when i do the fix(add server then change sync to manual);
4. when i have headphones plugged in and recieve a call the phone speaker still rings.
5. battery dies like crazy, sometimes after 3 hours of just being off the cradle idle(i havent done any patches thou and i think i am going to buy a new battery)
6. s2u2 does not work by pressing power button(had to map to record button)

maybe ill try going back to lennys.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I am having trouble with building the ROM for my 6700.
I added everything I needed the it errorsout cannot build rom and closes the window. I'd really like to add the touchflo 3d interface. I like the touch pro look and feel. I need some help. And yes I did follow the guide

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Looks like some new files have been added to the download area anyone know what they are? Also Updater is saying it can't connect to the server.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

The apache does not have the hardware for touchflo 3d. Can't really help you with the problem you're having building without the last few lines from the build status window or an error popup.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Yes, they're minor updates to the kitchen bases.Sorry about that.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Thanks and thanks again for the ongoing work you all do. Any hints at when the next release might be?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

will these new updates fix the 931 and others from having the 4 min shutdown and other problems or does that require a new build OS?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I got a whole bunch of duplicate-file messages during build, using BuildOS.
EG:
"Kitchens\PPCKitchen_OEM.rar::Green WMP Skin - wmp+WPC_player_240x320.skn - Overwrite existing file?
[Yes] [No]"
Probably because I barely know what I'm doing and am over-selecting stuff?

Anyway, I just selected "yes" (overwrite) and it doesn't seem to matter (yet). They looked like genuine duplicates (inferring from detailed names).

If overwrite is almost always the best choice, it would be good for Help or How-to files to tell user what to do in this situation, just for confidence sake.

Or would you rather I list and report each one?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

In most cases, you are simply overwriting stock graphics with custom graphics. In other cases, however, you might be picking between different versions of an .exe or .dll. The kitchen is arranged so that older stuff tends to add before newer stuff adds, so overwrite is almost always the best response.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

If you want a way to backup your text messages and call history have a look at www.dashwire.com have just started using it but looks like a good backup option. Gets my vote for including in the kitchen as I'm not aware of any other backup options for text/call history except PIM Backup. The exe can be downloaded from http://www.download.com/3001-2193_4-...cdd8657445b0c4

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Has anyone tried 21028 from here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=60512? Also any plans for these to be made official in the kitchen and available via updater? 6.5 is also being developed http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58497. Gguruusa any insight if you guys are working on something official?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I have tried 21028 and I had service, but there were lots of quirky things going on that are not worthy of my everyday phone. My phone also froze at boot with 21018 so I am back to this last official update. As for 6.5, I am sure it will be added when the kinks are worked out... there seem to be plenty going on with 6.1 newer builds at the moment.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I have downloaded 21,169, is not comfortable and a lot of nedorabotok.pereshel on the 20931-like.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Guru, you are the MAN!. The fact that you are still offering support to the 6700 crew is aces. I been workin off a half ***** upgrade i never bothered fixing from about 5 months ago. Just sat down and wanted to breathe new life back into my baby to make her last another 8-12 months and been workin with the kitchen for the last week to get that perfect setup. Ran into 2 issues. First was I wasnt gettin audio from the videos I was recording. Fixed through registry. Secondly, I hate to say it but I cant get smms to work. I can send but i still have to dial out through pie to see any pics that are sent to me. I feel its a registry issue. I have installed smms through the kitchen as well as the standalone cab file. Both do not work. I admit I have not donated for this because I never got it working. Naturally I will when I get it to. Thanks.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I updated the rom of my vx6700 & it works beautifull, but it does not find my memory card i format as FAT & FAT32 & it does not find it I have a 2GB

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

21028 works wonders on my apache along with 21189

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I had not received an answer about my memory card, that's your version will support my 2GB card? or there is a maximun that I don't know about, I will like to continue ussing it as I was before your update. Thank you

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

It will support the 2GB card. I am using an 8 GB card.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

If that is the case why is no finding my 2GB card, I can read it in the card reader as well in other phones, but the 2vx6700 that I have are telling me that there is not card installed, please help. the cars was working ok before the update. I also took the 4GB from my treo 750 & same resolt, memory card installed. I'm going nuts.