Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Is there a better way to clear a corrupted ExtROM than flashing a stock ROM? I have an unlocking program in 20931. How do i unhide? Is there a good CAB for those?
If not, what RUU do I need to get a flash to complete with bootloader 1.04?
Both
APAC_VZW_20720_200_11000_Ship.exe
and
APA_VZW_20720_206_11000_WWE_Ship.exe
after putting the phone in bootloader, and giving an update screen, sit a while, then give me an Error 201:Get Device Data Error
I also have APA_Verizon_31430_314208_14300_WWE_Ship_2.exe. I think this one applies Bootloader 2.04 or 2.05,
which I want to avoid, because I don't want to have to revert the bootloader, and I want a larger ROM.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

SOLUTIONS:

1.RUU: Looks like what I needed for flashing 1.04 was the New Bootloader RUU in the kitchen, not NoID or just RUU.

2.Corrupt Extended ROM: Found a file from Verizonguy called Blank Extended ROM (ms_.nbf)

3.Put ms_.nbf (blank) into NewBootloader RUU in Kitchen
(I also put in the nk.nbf from an older Stock Verizon ROM, but I don't think it was necessary.)

4.Flashed for the old stock ROM, then Flashed my custom ROM with the PPC Kitchen.

Extended ROM now clean, visibly, and according to OS Settings/Memory/Extended ROM.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

well i got 20931 running on my apach, seems to be running smooth, but i did notice that the batt had died in a day, granted i used it a good bit playing around with it making sure everything was up to par. i might try 20755 if i get bored later.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Having some issues with the new VZW Arcsoft MMS, Version 5..71.33R3. It works great for SMS and MMS, but i cannot get it to let me add any email accounts. I click the Setup Email from the account picker and it sends me to Outlook Email. If i try to Add New Account from either the Tools menu or Options page it flickers and does nothing. Am i missing a setting somewhere? Using this kitchen on an Apache 1.00 bootloader. Any other specs i can get them for you! Thanks a ton and great job!

EDIT-

Apparently, the iBliss Dialer breaks a lot of things. When i switched back to HTC Vogue dialer, the email settings came back and the device is a lot more responsive than before. So in case this happens to anyone else!

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

what?! everything after build 20755 will shut off after 4 minutes, well alrighty then guess i am stuck at 20755

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

exactly. there is NOTHING beneficial about builds past 20755 (at least as far as the apache goes). performance of 20755 is superior and there are less flaws. and it takes less space.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I just did my first flash of my vx6700 from wm5 (BL 1.0) using build 20931. The one issue I've found is the behavior with Activesync-cradling. After a hard reset, I can cradle it and get one good Activesync detection and sync process. After a few minutes, it goes to sleep and I cannot power on again until I hard reset. Maybe I'll go back to 20755...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I installed 20931 and found that TCPMP and WMP both shut down after 4 minutes, thus making the 6700 useless as a music player. So, I went back to 20755 - now it still shuts down even though I specify that the 6700 should not turn off .- see my settings below:. ARRRGGGHHH ..

Under:
Settings
System
Power
Advanced
On Battery Power
Turn off Device if not used for - unchecked

Under:
Settings
System
Backlight
Turn off backlight if device is not used for - unchecked

The unit still shuts down and the backlight goes off.

When a call come in, the unit wakes up, music plays, then phone rings.

Am I missing something?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

PIE6?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I haven't heard anything good about it.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

add this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power]
"DisableGwesPowerOff"=dword:1

Battery life will obviously be affected.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

So in going to put in this in through regedit, I found the entry: Hkey_local_machine/Software/Arcsoft/Arcsoft MMS UA...etc

I didn't select Arcsoft as an OEM when building the kitchen, nor did I install it after the cooking. Is this something left over in the ROM build or did the previous owner perhaps run Arcsoft and it just got stuck in the registry (assuming that kind of thing doesn't get overwritten in hard reset)?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

It got added on your behalf because you have verizon.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

So gguruusa ... Based on the path of the reg, it appears that this mod will impact the behaviour of the entire PPC - not just WMP? As I recall - and keep me honest folks :drunken: - prior to this last set of projects (since "helmi") the behaviour of the PPC was such that while WMP was actively playing something, it never went into hibernate mode; BUT something that hasn't changed is that when taking a call, the screen would go into hibernate (and calls would continue) after x number of minutes. THIS is crazy :???:. Perhaps a registrey dump of 19716 and 20xxx to compare?

The hibernate issue in general is driving me crazy (and to know me you'd summarise it'd be a short trip). I've tried multiple builds from "just enough to get by" to my "normal load" and have yet to figure out exactly what it is that causes the PPC to "check out". I had originally thought it had something to do with wkTask but that didn't pan out. THEN it would seem that every time I configured activesync to connect to my corporate mailserver, within minutes the PPC would have "checked out". So I started thinking that AS was goofed or perhaps that policies that corporate pushes to the PPC were suddenly incompatible with build 20xxx. Soooo based on some of the chatter here, I've had for the last few days I've had 20755 (selections included) with my "normal load" w/o AS configured and have had a single "check out".
Thought I had lost my last created copy of 19716 but I found the last ROM built late last night and my try reloading it for comparison.

Thoughts/opinions?

To reverberate what others continually state, many many thanks for all of this effort as it has definately extended the life of the Apache (had mine since it was first available).

Best regards

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I think it may be the kitchen that has changed because every build i have tried now has this problem --Shutting down after 4 minutes, seems to me this is cause of activesync issue too since you are not actively touching the screen or buttons. perhaps due to the new create a project?

i have used every build before the new create a project tab appeared and did not have the 4 min. shutdown problem. On latest build i changed the power setting to 5 minutes and got one more minute before it shut down, can anyone confirm this?

I would also like to say Thanx to everyone who has contributed to the kitchen. Feel like i am complaining but if we dont leave feedback problem will remain.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Um...sort of.
There are 3 different power managers, gwes being one of them. gwes and power manager (one of the other two) aren't supposed to be active at the same time, but inadvertently are in this release. Disabling gwes will leave power manager to control device power (the "stock" method of power control). The activation of gwes power management came from the merging of some no2chem stuff for Titan into the common registry base. It will be corrected in the next release.

Big thanks to Skinneejoe for tracking this issue down.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Just tried this ... Looks like a reboot is needed after the reg modification ... Had tunes playing in WMP and like the 5 minute mark was still active (shut off towards the end of the second song) ... Did a reboot and all looks good ... I guess a redirect question is does this also resolve the "checking out" that a number of us have been noticing? I'm currently initialising AS to find out ...

Thx

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Yes, you'll have to reboot for it to take effect.

"Checking out"?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

As has been noted in various posts, there seems (or seemed) to be a situation where after the PPC went into hibernate, it stayed there - period - and no pushing the power button to wake it up would help ... Only a reboot would resolve ... Many replies from yourself and others said to "minimise" your build. Been there and done that ... it effectively had no affect ... But with this power manager issue, I'm hopeful ...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

It's possible it could be related.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Houston, we have "check out" ... :cry: Guess it's not related ... Which will once again beg the question of what's different between the 19xxx and 20xxx projects? How has AS changed? Or how has the lock program changed?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I am working on upgrading my Verizon XV6700 to WM 6.1.
I have gone through the process of cooking up the OS, but I had a few questions.

1) Do I need to select all of the modules I want or if none are selected, will the OS have all of the default features of WM 6.1? (Excel, voice dialing, etc)

2) If for some reason it doesn't work, can I go back to what I had?

Any recommendations from people who have this phone with Verizon? I assume it is the Apache.

Like most first timers, I am very nervous about messing with my phone that works okay.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

You can go backwards just as easily as forwards.

It will function w/ nothing checked, but it will be stripped...no excel, voice dialing, etc.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Any idea when you expect next release as just about to update so will hold off if soon...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Seems to be a good fix for the problem. Editing the Registry was easy - I found and altered the entry using CeRegEditor - mainly because the info provided by gguruusa was clear and accurate. Good job!!

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

With this ROM, I've had issues with the ActiveSync continually disconnecting and reconnecting; as well as my having very poor battery life. I also don't like the new IE - it seems kind of cumbersome scrolling around a web page with it (it looks like it's trying to render every web page as 640x480, even many mobile sites). I am considering going back to 20755 until another alluring ROM comes forth...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

*** I think I am getting the hang of this stuff, so please ignore this rant, and take a look at thread #108!!!


I would like to think that I am a somewhat intelligent guy. A month or so I was jazzed up with I first loaded the helmi_c ROM on my VX-6700, and got it loaded just nicely. Of course, there were some issues, and when I asked how to resolve them, I would told to download PPCKitchen and build my own ROM.

I did that, but I am thinking that maybe I don't understand the process for getting a successful load in place. I loaded what I thought was a light load, and although it works, I have issues getting my 4GB miniSD card read. One of the other things that I don't understand is that when I used the helmi_c ROM, there were a ton of packages in place, but when I try to add things, I usually end up overloading the memory, or I have issues with G'Reloc which makes for a bad build.

First off, if I have the PPCKitchen, isn't there already some ROMs that I can load on, instead of my trying to be creative? Or am I forced to continuously pick and choose packages and hope that I have a decent build?

People seem to have issues with 20931, but I don't understand how to fall back to a previous version of BuildOS! I see that in reading the guides that I need to make sure that I am using the proper bootloader version, but I am not sure how to figure out what is the proper version!

*** Ok, I have learned that I am using 1.00 of the bootloader... Do I need to upgrade the bootloader???


I have read how people say that the extended ROM is corrupted, but are they talking about the orignal ROM that was from Verizon or can one load a custom ROM into the extended ROM partition (?)?

Considering that I actually use my phone for work, I can't have my phone be flaky. Is there a current Apache ROM that I can load on my phone so I don't have to screw up something that other people have working perectly?

I am sure these are some lame questions, but I have been reading threads and googling, but I have run into a wall... For instance, I have backed up all of my contacts using a thrid party program. That program as well as the contact backups are located on my SD card. Of course, now I can't access my SD card (although I was able to do that previously on an older build) and now I am shooting in the dark on my contacts... I have beyond frustrated!!!

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

K. ](*,)

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Ok, please correct me if my methodology is incorrect... While searching through various forums, I decided to take a good look at my C:\Program Files\PPCkitchen.org\BuildOS\Kitchens directory... And was I very surprised!!!

So if I do a simple build with the basic Microsoft programs, supporting programs and build that using an older build like 20924 or 20755,that should get me started. From there I can go back to the kitchen directory and open 000_Shareware.rar file and make the additional .cab files to round out what I am looking for.

Does that sound about right?

K.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

You don't want to upgrade your Bootloader... In general, we prefer the older versions because they take up less space, and the new versions did not seem to give any benefit...

I recommend using build 20755 for the Apache right now, as the newer builds are not quite ready IMHO... (In a month or two, this might change. )

There are prebuilt "clean" ROMs available if you look hard enough around, but the kitchen is usually a better choice... You might want someone to send you their "selections" file so you don't have to guess...

Check out www.ppckitchen.org too...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Well, you do a build all at once... The contents of the RAR files are already listed as choices... The files they contain are OEMs, not CABs... If you want to install something after building the ROM, you will either to flash all over again, or download the CAB file... Usually a Home Page is included with the description of a program in the Kitchen... (In some cases, no cab exists, so you must choose to flash with the program, or you won't be able to add it later...)

I hope this helps...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Actually, I did that in my latest build... Finally got a decent running ROM in place... Now just a few changes and then I will be ready to learn how to use OEMizer and have my final run ready to go...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I want to use this but do I have to unlock my ppc6700 first and if so what do i use to unlock?

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

There's no such thing as a locked 6700.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Are there any further upgrades to this in the pipeline?

Thank you very much

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

not likely. as stated by many others, 20755 is your best performer to date for the Apache. the two builds after that have very poor performance. it remains to be seen if a build such as 21109 will be made available. I wouldnt hold your breath though... it seems that the work for the Apache is almost dead. For an upgrade, consider the touch pro. 21109 is the first build i have seen that is significantly better than stock... and stock wasnt too shabby on the touch pro.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

It's too bad, but not unexpected... I suspect Apaches will start migrating to Android (If it ever gets to the Beta statge) or simply get replaced as you said...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Why would you even post such drivel? If it'll fit and run on the apache, it'll be released. I'd have thought that'd be obvious. I don't know why your builds had poor performance, but my 20931 runs fine.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I played with my co-workers G-1 and the production OS is nowhere near as mature as WM6 is.
OS felt like a mixture of Palm & Blackberry OS.
I felt sorry for the guy. whole unit felt cheap/plastic & toy-like.
Nowhere near as solid a unit as the Apache, so imagine comparing to a polished unit like a TouchPro or (edit, name:)Iphone.
Frankly the Apache still amazes at what it can do & how solid it is.

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

I've done plenty of tests and nothing beat 20755. And to be honest, 20755 as constructed by the kitchen wasn't all that great with the patch work. It worked much better with patches omitted, built, and safe mode booted, then rebooted.

I would love to see the day that 21109 makes it to your kitchen. I'm sure you will get to it... eventually... but my point was that there has been little activity lately and I would just be surprised to see any more. All the activity now seems to be in the TP...

Re: WM6.1 build 20931 kitchen
 

Your point was poorly made. The question you responded to was will more updates come. The answer is unequivacably yes.

You see more activity on the touch pro because that's where the lets release the rom we baked last night people are. It's much ado about little. There haven't been updates in ppckitchen for awhile because there hasn't been much exciting to do, and we have other pressures occupying our time, at the moment.