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Old 08-19-2008, 08:05 PM
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Re: Rom Size
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1) Does the Kitchen know it's a smaller ROM if I choose 1.04 in the pull-down menu?
Yes, but it has the v1.00 values for all bootloaders presently

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2) Is there a way to change the bootloader on my phone? Or am I screwed now?
You can - but 1.02/2.02 are the desired bootloaders, and 1.04 is same size as 1.02 (but it uses the older RUU, which means no_id RUU works, should you need that)

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2b) How significant a difference between 1.0 and 1.04?

Though I found a thread on forum.xda-developers.com claiming 1.04 has the same partitions as 1.00 and 1.02).
Confused!
1.00 is about 2MB bigger than 1.02/1.04. It's a trade with program storage - 1.02/1.04 have 2MB more program storage than 1.00.

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The apps used haven't changed much in version history (if at all....). I come close to a bare no frills install.
Don't know how to answer that. you can compare your old rom contents to new if you till have it...that'll tell you what the differences are, and from there where they came from.
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:11 AM
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Re: Rom Size
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You can - but 1.02/2.02 are the desired bootloaders, and 1.04 is same size as 1.02 (but it uses the older RUU, which means no_id RUU works, should you need that)
Cool, so once I downgrade back to 1.02 I should be back to normal?

I found the thread for this (http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33076), but one of the download links is no longer valid. http://www.utstar.com/pcd/uts_downloads.aspx Do you have this saved on the FTP? (Or can you describe what was in this part. (I may be ok if if's a CAB from the original phone, as I have them all saved).


Thanks and pre-thanks for all the help!

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NEVER MIND - got what I needed. My phone is now 1.02.
I'm going to try to use the latest kitchen again now. Keeping fingers crossed.

Gervy.


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Old 08-20-2008, 01:39 PM
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Rom Too Large!!!
Still getting error messages while ROM is compiling....

"Compiled Size (0x3b80000) greater than Max Rom Size (0x38e5800).
Remove 0x29a800 bytes (2729984 bytes)."

And this happening during the compile stage, and NOT during actual ROM install to the phone.

SelectionsVersion=.90.04
KitchenDir=Kitchens\Apache_Helmi_WM6.1.rar:;
ModuleDir=kitchens\000_Shareware.rar:
ModuleDir=kitchens\PPCGeeks_OEM.rar:
ModuleDir=USER_OEM
ExtraDir=Kitchens\Apache_Helmi_WM6.1\Extra
OutputDir=Temp
PreProcessTool=
PostProcessTool=
ROMDeviceType=Apache
ROMRevType=v1.02
ROMOSType=WM6.1
DeviceRUUType=Standard
DeviceCarrierType=Verizon
PagePoolSize=7
SelectedBootSplashImage=240x320,HTC.png
SelectedSubSplashImage=240x320,PPCkitchen2.png
SelectedMainSplashImage=240x320,HTC.dark.png
fffff57e-cd05-41bb-bb39-232aac902d6f, True, Comm Manager (10-Button) (APACHE ONLY)
ed461ae9-a258-431e-a0e6-a7f27bb9e8dd, True, Verizon
0875d285-3f09-4a1b-95e6-a16aa7bb2d6c, True, HTC Camera
aaa8ce13-5a7e-4584-a20b-c0242b19c063, True, SD Card Support Only
cab3a5d5-e09b-495d-8382-7f5136998f58, True, Wireless Modem (Wmodem)
ed0ab1a4-a456-4fb0-ad9d-93feccf351a3, True, Internet Sharing
4c804658-f322-40fd-989c-1394560913fa, True, Modem Link
ffffffff-7ed2-44d2-bc47-ac120c39c242, True, Magicall
addc540c-db56-4ab2-bc7d-b74e25f53065, True, Arcsoft MMS
ffffffff-8158-4307-9f4d-a2695e5f2a1d, True, HTC Diamond Dialer
925604d9-fc70-4424-ad09-670174571d55, True, Esmertec Jbed Java
ffffffff-1edc-4ed0-b598-ce8cc4c2ccf8, True, Event Sounds
f5e9565e-226f-47f9-9241-8972df262f8d, True, GSFinder+ (Dutty WM6 Explorer)
6725609b-3504-49c3-962c-9fa2da2f42ac, True, HTC Album
cc2e9802-d601-4811-a479-2ef64d7eba62, True, HTC Home (Select an Icon Set)
fffffffe-ca6b-40e7-9530-54decdd2ce96, True, HTC Home Default Icons
7f71a4dc-8131-4a0a-ae36-2872cbf5cd87, True, HTC Performance
3d18a254-0013-47f5-b6dd-cf10b605a2bd, True, HTC Smartdialing
91a58c35-ad52-4377-82c4-b83515d343c8, True, HTC NetworkPlugin
26316bc7-c258-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Kevtris
25d7c6b7-6429-4af7-915c-db7387417df8, True, Windows Live Search
38f43c9f-bc38-430e-81d1-a2e6c650f225, True, .NET CF3.5 RTM
fffbb5d1-86a8-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, No SMS Sent Notification
b495431f-6792-4461-a0cc-c9b7f5b47611, True, Office Word
ffffffff-ca88-4ce6-9fb2-52b89f4fb810, True, Opera 9 Mobile
1c5996fe-1d68-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Pocket Sand
46279b3a-86a8-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Battery Performance
624e2faa-932e-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, B2A2DP tweaks
ffff1009-fbdf-4b61-87e3-7f501ef93fe2, True, SPB Tech Calculator Skin
3bd487a8-eafe-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, BL Black Keyboard Skin
94dc3fbb-4369-4207-be09-44dc5493b912, True, StartClean
ffffffff-9724-4b13-95e4-2312ad2f9c81, True, TouchFlo Cube Suite by XPlode
f789a2d1-007e-464b-b3f6-c656f0fa1778, True, Cleartype On
78f9bb08-38b2-4da6-bc47-a5b65f1fec35, True, WkTASK
ffffffff-49f3-4991-a3bd-a3fbc1a9d726, True, Diamond Sounds and Ringers
ffffffff-c70a-4539-8faf-b430299318ac, True, 6.1 Graphics


What the heck man.
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Re: Rom Too Large!!!
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Originally Posted by Gervy View Post
Still getting error messages while ROM is compiling....

"Compiled Size (0x3b80000) greater than Max Rom Size (0x38e5800).
Remove 0x29a800 bytes (2729984 bytes)."

And this happening during the compile stage, and NOT during actual ROM install to the phone.

SelectionsVersion=.90.04
KitchenDir=Kitchens\Apache_Helmi_WM6.1.rar:;
ModuleDir=kitchens\000_Shareware.rar:
ModuleDir=kitchens\PPCGeeks_OEM.rar:
ModuleDir=USER_OEM
ExtraDir=Kitchens\Apache_Helmi_WM6.1\Extra
OutputDir=Temp
PreProcessTool=
PostProcessTool=
ROMDeviceType=Apache
ROMRevType=v1.02
ROMOSType=WM6.1
DeviceRUUType=Standard
DeviceCarrierType=Verizon
PagePoolSize=7
SelectedBootSplashImage=240x320,HTC.png
SelectedSubSplashImage=240x320,PPCkitchen2.png
SelectedMainSplashImage=240x320,HTC.dark.png
fffff57e-cd05-41bb-bb39-232aac902d6f, True, Comm Manager (10-Button) (APACHE ONLY)
ed461ae9-a258-431e-a0e6-a7f27bb9e8dd, True, Verizon
0875d285-3f09-4a1b-95e6-a16aa7bb2d6c, True, HTC Camera
aaa8ce13-5a7e-4584-a20b-c0242b19c063, True, SD Card Support Only
cab3a5d5-e09b-495d-8382-7f5136998f58, True, Wireless Modem (Wmodem)
ed0ab1a4-a456-4fb0-ad9d-93feccf351a3, True, Internet Sharing
4c804658-f322-40fd-989c-1394560913fa, True, Modem Link
ffffffff-7ed2-44d2-bc47-ac120c39c242, True, Magicall
addc540c-db56-4ab2-bc7d-b74e25f53065, True, Arcsoft MMS
ffffffff-8158-4307-9f4d-a2695e5f2a1d, True, HTC Diamond Dialer
925604d9-fc70-4424-ad09-670174571d55, True, Esmertec Jbed Java
ffffffff-1edc-4ed0-b598-ce8cc4c2ccf8, True, Event Sounds
f5e9565e-226f-47f9-9241-8972df262f8d, True, GSFinder+ (Dutty WM6 Explorer)
6725609b-3504-49c3-962c-9fa2da2f42ac, True, HTC Album
cc2e9802-d601-4811-a479-2ef64d7eba62, True, HTC Home (Select an Icon Set)
fffffffe-ca6b-40e7-9530-54decdd2ce96, True, HTC Home Default Icons
7f71a4dc-8131-4a0a-ae36-2872cbf5cd87, True, HTC Performance
3d18a254-0013-47f5-b6dd-cf10b605a2bd, True, HTC Smartdialing
91a58c35-ad52-4377-82c4-b83515d343c8, True, HTC NetworkPlugin
26316bc7-c258-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Kevtris
25d7c6b7-6429-4af7-915c-db7387417df8, True, Windows Live Search
38f43c9f-bc38-430e-81d1-a2e6c650f225, True, .NET CF3.5 RTM
fffbb5d1-86a8-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, No SMS Sent Notification
b495431f-6792-4461-a0cc-c9b7f5b47611, True, Office Word
ffffffff-ca88-4ce6-9fb2-52b89f4fb810, True, Opera 9 Mobile
1c5996fe-1d68-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Pocket Sand
46279b3a-86a8-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Battery Performance
624e2faa-932e-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, B2A2DP tweaks
ffff1009-fbdf-4b61-87e3-7f501ef93fe2, True, SPB Tech Calculator Skin
3bd487a8-eafe-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, BL Black Keyboard Skin
94dc3fbb-4369-4207-be09-44dc5493b912, True, StartClean
ffffffff-9724-4b13-95e4-2312ad2f9c81, True, TouchFlo Cube Suite by XPlode
f789a2d1-007e-464b-b3f6-c656f0fa1778, True, Cleartype On
78f9bb08-38b2-4da6-bc47-a5b65f1fec35, True, WkTASK
ffffffff-49f3-4991-a3bd-a3fbc1a9d726, True, Diamond Sounds and Ringers
ffffffff-c70a-4539-8faf-b430299318ac, True, 6.1 Graphics


What the heck man.
You've got a lot of big OEM's selected.
Take out the Diamond sounds and Ringers or any combination of 3MB of selections and it will complete.
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:57 AM
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Re: Rom Too Large!!!
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You've got a lot of big OEM's selected.
Take out the Diamond sounds and Ringers or any combination of 3MB of selections and it will complete.
Yeah, I was just about to post success. The only thing I had to remove was Diamond sounds and ringers. (What the fudge is so huge in there!!!!)

But honestly, I don't think it was just that, because I was attempting some rather bare-bones ROMS yesterday as well. I think it was a Gremlin thing (and yeah, I use that as a technical term when I fix servers, etc... LOL).

It also helped when I figured out how to use the ROM size estimator thing.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:05 AM
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Re: Apache WM6.1 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.19716 (Build 19716.1.0.0) - UPDATED 20080308
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I've tried re-downloading ppcgeeks_oem.rar twice, the .rar file extracts without error if I open it with winrar (it also tests without error) and there's 52Gb free on my C drive. This is all with un-modified ppcgeeks_oem.rar files. I'm plum outta ideas
I'm seeing this issue (file create error on PPCGeeks_OEM.rar) on two different systems, my laptop (XP) and my home system (Vista 32).

I've tried using the updater and downloading using the manual links multiple times.

I'm not select "Vogue Camera", because I have an Apache.....

Any ideas?

I'm including my selections....

SelectionsVersion=.90.04
KitchenDir=Kitchens\Apache_LennySh_20273.rar:;
ModuleDir=kitchens\000_Shareware.rar:
ModuleDir=kitchens\PPCGeeks_OEM.rar:
ModuleDir=kitchens\SYS_20270.rar:
ModuleDir=USER_OEM
OutputDir=Temp
PreProcessTool=
PostProcessTool=
ROMDeviceType=Apache
ROMRevType=v1.04
ROMOSType=WM6.1
DeviceRUUType=Standard
DeviceCarrierType=Verizon
PagePoolSize=7
SelectedBootSplashImage=240x320,VZW.png
SelectedSubSplashImage=240x320,PPCkitchen2.png
SelectedMainSplashImage=320x320,6.1_welcomehead.96 .png
fffff57e-cd05-41bb-bb39-232aac902d6f, True, Comm Manager (10-Button) (APACHE ONLY)
ed461ae9-a258-431e-a0e6-a7f27bb9e8dd, True, Verizon
0875d285-3f09-4a1b-95e6-a16aa7bb2d6c, True, HTC Camera
aaa8ce13-5a7e-4584-a20b-c0242b19c063, True, SD Card Support Only
ff316bbe-c258-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, ExtRom Unlock
cab3a5d5-e09b-495d-8382-7f5136998f58, True, Wireless Modem (Wmodem)
4c804658-f322-40fd-989c-1394560913fa, True, Modem Link
de63c8c8-1d04-4a04-90d7-57999081fada, True, Arcsoft MMS 5.0.31.7
60c7ded5-9339-4085-8f95-5f6477010af3, True, Cambridge Bluetooth Add-on
ffffffff-58fb-4c1b-a5b9-f4d42b9d3fff, True, iPhone Dialer (CDMA)
01f6d872-f5aa-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, File as First Last
4e0550c0-eae9-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Freecell
ffffffff-0ea8-4338-ba84-5b883267610e, True, 6.1 WMP Skin
fffffff3-676d-4530-b7e4-9d895a2e3e52, True, HTC Camera Album
5c302504-0686-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, HTC Audio Manager
7f71a4dc-8131-4a0a-ae36-2872cbf5cd87, True, HTC Performance
e3980fea-4590-4c73-a974-c6e093dcfd50, True, HTC Streaming Media Player
91a58c35-ad52-4377-82c4-b83515d343c8, True, HTC NetworkPlugin
ffffffff-8b6f-490c-be70-4e1e82cda327, True, iContact 1.02
cf22fd84-b29c-43fb-8f0c-b0f34addfd92, True, Inbox Menu Extensibility (Mark All As Read/Delete All)
ffffffff-d495-4348-b3af-3c0d9096a162, True, Esmertec Jbed Java
26316bc7-c258-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Kevtris
63096326-8cd5-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, MultiStatus Plugin
6a4592a8-00a6-4d30-bbba-b8b60d760b3e, True, MusicID
38f43c9f-bc38-430e-81d1-a2e6c650f225, True, .NET CF3.5 RTM
ffffffff-ee3c-4a7b-b75c-1e76953fe3df, True, no2chem advanced settings
ffffffff-76c4-4a72-804b-a880269c13ea, True, nueTools Base Package
ffffffff-2182-4fae-a9d1-76af97c09304, True, nueAGC AGC Control Applet
ffffffff-23b2-41e3-9c2b-8a9b4f0af6ff, True, nueMMS
ffffffff-5f62-4df0-9497-bbb6cdb809a6, True, nuePerformance
ffffffff-70ca-4b68-afec-b23de5452c32, True, nueThreadedSMSControl
ffffffff-dbab-46aa-a867-8399f2396dfb, True, Data Timer/Disconnect Indicator
fffbb5d1-86a8-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, No SMS Sent Notification
ffffffff-f728-4d47-88ad-9cab46e884bd, True, USB Mass Storage Driver
ffffffff-0275-487f-81b4-cb2039e04b5e, True, nuePowerCPL
6cfca20e-12f0-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, O2 Calendar
4cbe6fc6-12ee-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, O2 Last Call
5f86088f-7e4b-4f3d-8b34-76b8a6bebe0e, True, Office Excel
b495431f-6792-4461-a0cc-c9b7f5b47611, True, Office Word
2f863e61-941d-4fb6-bcdf-35bf606e613a, True, OneNote
d83b7202-2af0-4199-af12-d073bc63732f, True, OneNote
07f58d74-e6ce-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, PHM NotePad
290bddea-dc8c-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, FdcSoft PIM Backup
ea295713-2f22-4112-b6ca-b41edc9e9e2b, True, Pocket RAR
1c5996fe-1d68-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Pocket Sand
cdf1b832-c364-11db-ba79-a18955d89593, True, PPC/XV6700 Hack
46279b3a-86a8-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, Battery Performance
624e2faa-932e-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, B2A2DP tweaks
ffffffff-4768-452e-a459-4af840401259, True, Hide Data Connection Bubble
ffffffff-1486-4055-8087-bd49d95d4201, True, Skinny Signal Bars
adc19413-37b2-4018-af8a-148b50f6ea13, True, Remote Desktop Mobile
150c8b23-1992-4b99-a7fb-8314fe8cbe8a, True, Samsung Omnia D3D driver
84adafa4-dd3d-4e12-9dd8-3d20107e9193, True, TCPMP
ffffffff-2f64-48bf-a702-f54a6b8e0c05, True, Today Clock
3a3d5b47-100c-4c3a-a0ce-1b84f6dc8dde, True, TripYzee
d30eed3e-34f0-48a4-8c3c-295ca56ec170, True, TVGuide
f789a2d1-007e-464b-b3f6-c656f0fa1778, True, Cleartype On
2faa9f50-a4d5-4ff6-a9bc-6e4242728dea, True, Live Google Search
ffffe941-c8f1-4f7c-8d2f-1c2ecb18469f, True, Menu Sounds
fffe5da7-2dab-4273-80ee-e4797682b7fa, True, Clock in Title Bar
fffffffe-ff0a-4539-8faf-b430299318ac, True, Vista Theme
59d6a722-2ab7-11dc-8314-0800200c9a66, True, VistaHide Battery Guage
ffffff9f-676d-4530-b7e4-9d895a2e3e52, True, HTC Voice Recorder
4107fff1-acd5-457b-b9ea-df86ac7f990e, True, Microsoft Voice Command
2d91230e-a5e0-4707-b8ec-515b2abc9d0e, True, CrossWords
ffffffff-d137-40b4-aec2-e7965c4e1d79, True, YouTube Player
ffffffff-49f3-4991-a3bd-a3fbc1a9d726, True, Diamond Sounds and Ringers
647c8ffc-f067-11db-8314-0800200c9a66, True, acbToggleBT
fffffff1-676d-4530-b7e4-9d895a2e3e52, True, AdobeReaderLE.2_00_288531
e1c00a8c-ffe8-45aa-bcd6-68ab1f8de241, True, Advanced Configuration
ffffffff-fa58-42be-aa1e-c55eb101cfd9, True, Doug's OEM
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Re: Apache WM6.1 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.19716 (Build 19716.1.0.0) - UPDATED 20080308
Hi All,
I apologize if this question is old news and has been answered already. but I have looked threw about the first 100 pages of this thread and did a search for Battery and a couple others, and still have not seen any answers....so here goes!
Did anyone ever find a solution for the excessive battery drain that some were having with this build? I upgraded from 5.0 and put this on my phone a couple months ago, and immediatly my battery life was cut in half! I notice it really bad when I use the phone....it really drains quick! I was following this thread for a while and people where thinking that maybe one particuler app might be causing this and were trying to narrow it down, but then I got really busy and didnt see the outcome.
Any help would be greatly apreciated,
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Re: Apache WM6.1 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.19716 (Build 19716.1.0.0) - UPDATED 20080308
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Hi All,
I apologize if this question is old news and has been answered already. but I have looked threw about the first 100 pages of this thread and did a search for Battery and a couple others, and still have not seen any answers....so here goes!
Did anyone ever find a solution for the excessive battery drain that some were having with this build? I upgraded from 5.0 and put this on my phone a couple months ago, and immediatly my battery life was cut in half! I notice it really bad when I use the phone....it really drains quick! I was following this thread for a while and people where thinking that maybe one particuler app might be causing this and were trying to narrow it down, but then I got really busy and didnt see the outcome.
Any help would be greatly apreciated,
Thanks in advance,
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There is an OEM you should select- I forget the exact name- but it refers to battery savings.
I think that it's just a reg file, but it might have other settings adjustments.
I keep a copy on my SD card. Feel free to use the attached.
My battery does pretty well.
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Re: Apache WM6.1 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.19716 (Build 19716.1.0.0) - UPDATED 20080308
Thanks for the reply...I would have to look for that OEM next time but as for the registry file you attached, I looked at mine and all those settings are already in there.
Thanks again,
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Re: Apache WM6.1 Kitchen CE OS 5.2.19716 (Build 19716.1.0.0) - UPDATED 20080308
I'm about to update my Apache from roughly 70 days ago. Noticed the additional versions of MSVC (had problem last time around). Is the newest MSVC working fine with Apache or do I stick with the old one?

Any other additions I should think about?

Interested to know what the new HTC Home, dialers, and calc's look like.
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